Keyboard and Mouse Control Scheme feedback/review

[arhum]

Hi there XSEED patching team,

As a certified KB/M sicko I decided to take a look at the new implementation of this control scheme and I wanted to provide some feedback, as I'm not a huge fan of it and it can easily be improved (I hope). So lets get right to it:

Issues:

1) Camera control - The camera controls seemed to be mapped to the mouse but they simply do not work, the camera wiggles a little. So this is a bug.

2) Clashes and Wrestling Moves - I was surprised to see these do not utilize the mouse (movement) at all:

-For clashes you have to press WASD in Anti-clockwise direction win (while the prompt is still showing clockwise Right Stick)

-For Wrestling moves you are expected to press both directions in any sequence via WASD.

For both the above scenarios, the mouse could be used here as the right stick to execute clashes and wrestling moves alongside WASD (as the left stick). Similar to NMH3.

3) Recharging - This isn't exactly a bug but the prompt implies you can press any direction to recharge when it actually should be left/right or up/down to recharge fast. I would personally vote for the former as mashing A and D is more ergonomic/easier in a WASD keyboard setup. HOWEVER it would be far better if NMH3's approach to recharging could be adapted. i.e. using the mouse wheel.

Being able to map the recharge button to the Middle Mouse Button then recharging via the mouse wheel would be excellent!

4) Bike Controls - When riding the bike via keyboard, it is near impossible to drift as W is accelerate and S is brake; there is no dedicated brake button. This is required as drifting requires you to hold Boost (L-Shift) while holding Accelerate (W) and then pressing Brake (S) while holding a direction.

As you can imagine, this would require you to do yoga on the keyboard and an easy remedy as far as I think is just giving a dedicated brake button that you can map to, say Space (Bike jump could be mapped to something else, it's not as important in the gameplay).

5) Minor bugs:

-The menus in Travis's motel seems to be a bit delayed as you hover the mouse, not sure if this is a bug.

-The game seems to fight over the last input method used and it treats keyboard and mouse as separate devices in a way. If you walk to an interaction point, it would show the keyboard accept prompt, but if you press LMB, it immediately switches to the mouse prompt. This is especially visible in the coconut minigame as you can press LMB or your keyboard accept button (for e.g. E) so if you mash LMB while moving forward, the button prompt flickers between the keyboard prompt E and the LMB.

-Also, the default prompt at the toilet title screen (booting into the game after finishing the prologue) defaults to controller A despite using keyboard/mouse and not having any controllers plugged in.

That is about it so far, I'll update this post if I find new issues but the gist is that if NMH3's excellent KB/M Scheme could be adapted beyond what I posted above, it would be great, thank you.

[YOUNGYYY]

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[Nuclear Sorrow]

I was planning to buy nmh1 on pc after seeing the patches. But now I will wait for even more longer tbh

[Xano]

i haven't used the bike yet, but so far the only thing i can't deal with is clashes. trying to wdsawdsawdsawdsawdsawdsawdsa really fast is killer

i'm about to have a controller hooked up on standby that i only use for clashes lmao

[arhum]

Originally posted by Xano:

i haven't used the bike yet, but so far the only thing i can't deal with is clashes. trying to wdsawdsawdsawdsawdsawdsawdsa really fast is killer

i'm about to have a controller hooked up on standby that i only use for clashes lmao

You have to do it anti clockwise (opposite direction of what the prompt is showing) for it to work.

[U201710353]

How can I play with keyboard and mouse?

[Tyson RRS]

Bro I would like to know if you were able to finish the game. I read your post and I think I can manage the keyboard and mouse stuff but I've heard many other issues too like crashes and stuck in some boss fights. I'll get this game as it's on sale but only if it's actually playable from start to end. I would like to know if there are any game breaking issues..thanks 🙏🏻

[SliperyHippo🐙]

Originally posted by Tyson RRS:

Bro I would like to know if you were able to finish the game. I read your post and I think I can manage the keyboard and mouse stuff but I've heard many other issues too like crashes and stuck in some boss fights. I'll get this game as it's on sale but only if it's actually playable from start to end. I would like to know if there are any game breaking issues..thanks 🙏🏻

It is 100% playable for like 90% of players, in fact, on my desktop it works like a dream, however the laptop I'm using for college has a game breaking bug that I have recently resolved (and written a guide on, go check it out if it's an issue for you)
If you're interested you should 100% check it out! What's the worst that happens? It stops working? Get a refund!

[Tyson RRS]

Originally posted by SliperyHippo🐙:

Originally posted by Tyson RRS:

Bro I would like to know if you were able to finish the game. I read your post and I think I can manage the keyboard and mouse stuff but I've heard many other issues too like crashes and stuck in some boss fights. I'll get this game as it's on sale but only if it's actually playable from start to end. I would like to know if there are any game breaking issues..thanks 🙏🏻

It is 100% playable for like 90% of players, in fact, on my desktop it works like a dream, however the laptop I'm using for college has a game breaking bug that I have recently resolved (and written a guide on, go check it out if it's an issue for you)
If you're interested you should 100% check it out! What's the worst that happens? It stops working? Get a refund!

thanks man. I'm definitely interested. I'm playing it now, the controls are bad, especially the mouse control- feels like if you use the kb then mouse stops working for some time. It's weird and feels disconnected. Game also crashed on me the first mission and it didn't even save. I ran it again and it started from the beginning. No manual saves too. It's a really bad port, the controls could've been very smooth with kbm but they didn't put any effort. I won't refund the game, just with hope that they patch and improve this game.