first hour (more or less) of play observations

[zumwaltwood]

I know this is way early but just a few fundamental initial observations, attacks, the thrust attack when you have melee weapon, needs to go, or make it a special, the fact that i thrust forward and move forward on a the attack is deadly, for me, not the enemy, it pushes me past them, and they can and do beat me to a pulp, aka death fast (who cares about death, just the way is horrible)

next, you can starve to death while dead, do huh, so i starved and thirst to death while dead, couldn't actually die since i was dead, but the food and water counter went down even though i was dead (I know again, so what, it didn't hurt me honestly but hey, why reduce the counters if i am dead)

need a game pause, so I needed to feed my wife or suffer wife aggro and die, so i hit escape, then went to the kitchen, cooked her food, took out the garbage, only to find out, yes, I am dead

this game has more ways to die than an Apocalypse game, which is fine honestly, just lesson learned in the first hour of game play

controls, I get it, this was made with the older unity controls vs the newer version, works, but the targeting for looting and attacking, ouch, need to be able to attack a little better, i am sure it is something to get used to and an odd mechanic, but it seems based on a lunge always, although it is hilarious to beat up a person with a table

initial mission to make the bamboo tool, easy enough, beat on a tree, but lunging at it over and over, ok cool, while i am doing that, someone is waiting on my useless shop to open littering on the ground and die of lack of food and water, with a berry bush right next to them, to funny

this game has so many quirks it is just fun to die, in so many ways, and kill in so many ways with so many things as weapons, i like where this game wants to be and where it is going, keep up the development on it, it has potential

i will start over again since i have died so many times it is pointless to use this character, and will hopefully do better, i want to hire a guard plus an escort plus an underling or hireling or something and have them go out and beat stuff up for me lol, all the mechanics is there for this, thanks for this fun game

[xiumeigolden]

It's not super clear, but you can press P to pause the game (only if you're alone in your lobby).

[zumwaltwood]

thanks, and looks like i ran across another issue, the hammer can only do floors, not walls or ceiling or doors, additionally the table you start with, it got destroyed in my battle with night time zombie things, so then i have no way to build another one so i built the only table i could which is for construction and made a new register since last one also got destroyed and now, no good, can't remove the register, can't sell, this game is toast, i will start over on the weekend maybe, yes i have researched walls, etc but can't build them, oh well, will try a new game and do that if i can figure it out somehow

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409485355

[DraconianStatue]

Originally posted by zumwaltwood:

thanks, and looks like i ran across another issue, the hammer can only do floors, not walls or ceiling or doors, additionally the table you start with, it got destroyed in my battle with night time zombie things, so then i have no way to build another one so i built the only table i could which is for construction and made a new register since last one also got destroyed and now, no good, can't remove the register, can't sell, this game is toast, i will start over on the weekend maybe, yes i have researched walls, etc but can't build them, oh well, will try a new game and do that if i can figure it out somehow

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409485355

Hey zunwaltwood,

Thank you so much for the feedback in this thread! Once I get back to the office next week I will organize it internally so we can use it to help with future updates and improving the game.

For your issue with the register, please make sure that when you hold the bamboo construction hammer and look at your floors, the floor under your register and your displays is marked as Pop Pop's Shop Shop and not as a plot tile. If it is the wrong tile, you can press E on it while holding the hammer to cycle it.

Also you mentioned not being able to craft the walls? If you press tab while holding the hammer do you see the walls on the panel to the right.

I hope this helps! Thanks for trying out Saleblazers!

[zumwaltwood]

the fact you participate in this forum and keep up with the players is top notch, i think this is a great idea for a game truly, arpg village / shop thing with attacks, awesome stuff, the fact we can destroy our own shop with attacks, genuinely annoying lol what am i supposed to do? can't avoid hitting things when the mobs are in my shop so my swing alone takes out my own shop, i get out of the shop and fight but its way to late at that point lol going to attempt to salvage this character and maybe build another register and put it on the floor since i can't make a counter, no blueprint for it that i see, or i am blind, thanks for the heads up on more key commands, will give it a try, not like i can destroy much more now anyway

[e Zinc]

Thanks for the feedback. I also wanted to jump in and say that you can press P to pause the game in a singleplayer session.

[DraconianStatue]

Originally posted by zumwaltwood:

the fact you participate in this forum and keep up with the players is top notch, i think this is a great idea for a game truly, arpg village / shop thing with attacks, awesome stuff, the fact we can destroy our own shop with attacks, genuinely annoying lol what am i supposed to do? can't avoid hitting things when the mobs are in my shop so my swing alone takes out my own shop, i get out of the shop and fight but its way to late at that point lol going to attempt to salvage this character and maybe build another register and put it on the floor since i can't make a counter, no blueprint for it that i see, or i am blind, thanks for the heads up on more key commands, will give it a try, not like i can destroy much more now anyway

Thank you! One of my favorite parts of making this game is interacting with the community.

Some ways to stop enemies from attacking you inside of your shop are to make walls and doors. Later on you will get turrets that can help too.
But I would suggest sleeping through the night right now in the early game before you get those things. For a little while, you can rely on using a bed in Pop Pop's house when it gets dark. Try to wait until it's really dark so you can make sure to sleep all the way through.

If you are really struggling with the night enemies attacking your shop, I would highly recommend turning on the Peaceful Shop setting in the lobby settings. You'll have to exit to the menu and turn it on from your lobby, but it will prevent any enemies from attacking your shop while leaving the enemies you fight out while adventuring. You can always turn it back off once you have some more defenses set up.

There are some table blueprints you can unlock in the research board, to the left of the main path a little bit. But you can also loot a table or crate to put your register on until you're able to make your own.

I hope this helps!

[zumwaltwood]

thanks, i will look again through the blueprints as i unlock them, in the mean time i had to chop up the table and sell the extra register since i made a new one and it is on the floor, oh and guess what, you can't remove roofs! i couldn't see if it was aligning right so i did it wrong, um how do you sleep?? lol
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409582599

[DraconianStatue]

Haha those roofs should have collapsed on their own but I guess you gave the structure stability system a bit of a doozy.
You should be able to dismantle them with F but the angle to do so might be a little tough. you could try climbing some items or stairs and jumping on the roofs and looking down on them to dismantle. It might help.

To sleep, press E on a bed that is under a roof. It can be one you crafted or one you find in the world like in Pop Pop's house or an Inn.

[zumwaltwood]

Thanks, i have place flat roof pieces under them for now and will get on my roof later, i have kind of built out the first shop a little, needs tons more rework and trying to locate larger stone, i guess i need to get away from this house and move on into the game, i am really enjoying this system you setup and so happy the mobs can't break down the fence or walls, i am so happy about that, stone feet, now i want to find the rest of the outfit to see if i look like a killer stone golem, awesome work on this btw, truly enjoyable, but now i am frightened, I have shotgun ammo! no gun but now i am worried i will run across someone with a shotgun and all i got is this huge stone sword lol

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409652890

[DraconianStatue]

Originally posted by zumwaltwood:

Thanks, i have place flat roof pieces under them for now and will get on my roof later, i have kind of built out the first shop a little, needs tons more rework and trying to locate larger stone, i guess i need to get away from this house and move on into the game, i am really enjoying this system you setup and so happy the mobs can't break down the fence or walls, i am so happy about that, stone feet, now i want to find the rest of the outfit to see if i look like a killer stone golem, awesome work on this btw, truly enjoyable, but now i am frightened, I have shotgun ammo! no gun but now i am worried i will run across someone with a shotgun and all i got is this huge stone sword lol

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3409652890

Haha nice! Your armor looks on point! If you run into someone with a shotgun, try to get the drop on them and hopefully you can take their shotgun from their deathbox and put that ammo to good use! There are also a couple of vendors that might sell a shotgun in some of the villages.

Super happy to hear you're enjoying the system and having a good time building out your shop. Thanks again for giving the game a try. Cheers!