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Thanks for being a proof of my statement in itself ave. Never change please.
those ''news outlets'' are about as reliable as the conspiracy ''news outlets''.
FFXIV is still dead and thats why you spend so much time trolling here instead of actually playing it, your words and not mine
If it's as easy to dispute as you say it is, it should be really easy for you to provide counter proof.
Or are you gonna cave in from a first page google search?
says the guy that links the first google result thats linked as advertisement as ''proof''
no not all.
becuase all your ''facts'' can be disproved by many facts of the past.
WoW actually has less then 2 milion subs right so thats already a wrong stat from your fake websites, on top of that blizzard stopped announcing sub numbers years ago so there is no real information on that anymore.
if FFXIV really had 30+ milion subs it would have way higher player numbers on steamcharts, which they don't (also many people on steamcharts are most likely f2p players aswell without a running sub). on top of that wow is still the king of mmorpgs and at its peak only had 12 milions subs and FFXIV wishes they ever reached that high.
FFXIV only had 1 surge in player numbers and thats when they paid asmongold to stream for them, now its slowly going down in numbers again.
so i am sorry mr FFXIV fanboy but your game is dead and even WoW its current rotting corpse(which is even in no content time becuase waiting for next exspansion) has higher player numers.
where are official sources of your claims? you made the claim first so yea...
Where is your (counter)proof?
i said official sources.
but o well.... that ''39 milion subcribers'' of your is actually 39 milion players including those that stopped playing or just played a f2p account and stopped after, source: https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv
wow has 120milion: https://mmo-population.com/r/wow
but website like this and yours are not official and should be taken with a grain of salt so the only thing we have left is twitch viewers and steamcharts.
i am sorry but FFXIV steamcharts numbers are laughable and clearly show its dieing.
sorry FFXIV fanboy you must be salty
You don't need an active subscription to be participating or subscribing to a subreddit. This is also evident as WOW seems to have 0 players in march 2022, which doesn't make sense.
As it happened, major subreddits privated out of protest against censorship, which was in march 2022: https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/677190-reddit-private-community-aimee-challenor-censorship
Source for how mmo-population measures: https://mmo-population.com/about
Your counterproof is invalid, I have provided proof of why that is.
My earlier linked sources however explain how they got their numbers way better and in a way you can yourself fact check: they've taken sales reports and revenue numbers and made an educated estimation which isn't far from the truth.
That aside, your own proof contradicts the point you want to make: wow might have had more total players but FFXIV, according to your own chosen proof, has more daily players than WOW currently has:
https://mmo-population.com/r/ffxiv
And according to the source website YOU chose, Solo has less total players and less daily players than both of them:
https://mmo-population.com/r/swordsoflegends
In fact it's so little that they say theres less than 20 daily players.
So what'll it be ave? If your proof is somehow valid then so are the ones I pointed out.
please carefully read what i said, its not worth my time to reply if you just going to make up things and twist it, sorry but your trolling attempt is bad.
FFXIV is dead and thats why you are here to troll for months becuase you are so bored becuase FFXIV is dead, sorry
And with that ave, adieu.
ave be like: "source: dude trust me"
you are wrong on all points which you would know if you actually read.
sorry dude but FFXIV is dead.