Democracy 4

Democracy 4

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DrWho Mar 14, 2021 @ 5:24am
Request: Become/Create Monarchy, EU Exit, Compulsory Voting, New Party
Dear Dev's

Please can you consider the following as I believe they really would make D4 stand out from D3 and (hopefully) not be too difficult to implement?

Become/Create/End Absolute Monarchy:

Some idea of how that takes shape

This would effectively cancel elections, term limits, and give maximum political capital per turn (the upsides). Downside would be that referendums (forced manifestos) are given, choosing to ignore or missing gives a decrease in popularity and increase in corruption (increases tax fraud, military costs etc).

EU Exit/Join:

Allow the EU nations to be able to have a slider called "EU Membership" - one extreme being non member - opens Quantitative Easing, Helicopter money and so on, maybe decreases trade/foreign relations by some value and so on. Member is the same scenario built into Spain/Germany etc.

Compulsory Voting:

This should be something which can be made into a Law and Order or Public Services policy, the impact is straightforward.

New Party:

It should be possible to create some condition which allows for 2 party systems to be opened to a 3rd party and vice versa a 3 party system to become a 2 party state.
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Ruin Mar 14, 2021 @ 9:46am 
I would also love for all of these options to be in-game, rather than done out in the menu like the last two are, Although to do the first two, it would likely require the addition of conditional policies to be added to be done really well. I'm sure the EU exit and join could be done with policy opposites, but that doesn't feel as nice as it would be if it could be done through conditionals. I would love the ability to have it so that if policy A is implemented at at least B% then policy C thus becomes available to be implemented. And conversely if Policy A is cancelled or B% drops below the threshold, then policy C is automatically cancelled (or I could see a case to be made that A could not be cancelled unless its dependent C is cancelled first, that would work as well).
Prisiper1 Mar 15, 2021 @ 10:39am 
Would be good, totally agree
underneath99 Mar 16, 2021 @ 12:46am 
Also, it would be really interesting to have the actual different electoral and legislative systems. I tried to play with my own country, it was so weird, to play it as is was a presidentialist republic when it's a parlamentary monarchy. Also, even as a presidentialist republic, it's too dumbed down. No separation of powers, no consideration whatsoever to territorial policies, etc.

Dunno, got the game yesterday and I guess I'm disappointed.
Last edited by underneath99; Mar 16, 2021 @ 12:46am
DrWho Mar 16, 2021 @ 5:02am 
Yeah, in its current state I am also quite disappointed.

The developer seems like a fairly reasonable and all round good guy, and I think he read these and occasionally responds so I am still holding up hope he sees this and gives it his all.

Presently it is still technically in development, my main issue is that we have several countries, a lot of time and effort is being invested in those countries and getting a good idea of their current situation.

I would much rather, for the purpose of D4 having meaningful value add over D3 that he focus more on developing the systems.

Give me a US based system, a parliamentary republic and then something like a Monarchy (constitutional versus absolute) and the ability to influence or change systems in game to those (each with their own unique functions/pros/cons etc).

Some simple things would be great too - I mean if Judicial Independence is at the extreme low - that should lower the cost of implementing "Law and Order" items which normally may be contested in a democratic system etc.
DrWho Mar 26, 2021 @ 9:00am 
Just wanted to add.

Would be great to even look into somehow fleshing out the US styled system. Not sure to what extent this is either a big ask or a small ask but just throwing it out there.

Example:

Separate the current election system (i.e that of us being the President) to that of the congress (house/senate).

Give veto power.

Just like in coalitions, the partners can suggest legislation - have this new separate entity able to try pass policy (according to its make up). We can elect to veto it (requires greater majority to pass), if we use the veto - the effect is a temporary one (similar to that of our decisions when faced with extradite/grant amnesty.

Except it is far more meaningful because we denied its ascension to law.

I would imagine of everything mentioned in this thread this would be probably the hardest or at least the biggest request. As such I would never expect it now, maybe D5 ^^
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Date Posted: Mar 14, 2021 @ 5:24am
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