Fire Hell Difficulty

[Seiazen]

Has anyone here beaten Fire Hell / Hard difficulty without any inheritances? If so, what builds did you make? I'm quite new to the game but I love a challenge, however, I noticed that a lot of forced battles are highly difficult to the point of feeling impossible without some sort of cheese method or go farm a bunch for a good few hours before retrying (which I have done constantly, I can hardly imagine how tough my future opponents will be if I needed to be in the 30-40 level range to handle act 2). In my current playthrough, I went with wine arts simply because of how powerful they can get with alcohol stacked on top of it, especially when numerous enemies in act 2 have HP in the high multiple thousands. Lastly, any advice at all for approaching and beating this difficulty is much appreciated.

[Keazel]

tried music-sword build. Also trying play SOLO, Thats though.

Music has really high range attack, also it gives -SPD and and for the start its OP skill

But all my battles drag on for 60-90 moves, the SOLO gameplay at midle of the game seems impossible, but im continue my run, LOL.

If you stucked at 30-40lvl its normal, there is no secret for being stronger, Just grind more, Get 300 lvl blacksmith, lvlup your gear, your party members LVL, also you should have 1 healer. Buy all ingreedients. dont forget to use them, look some guides(ty community for creating them) and check some more kungfu for your build and where you can get theem. Only Wine Art build, i think, the worst build you can try. For example, there is some cool Kungfu with wine and sword.

Also stamina is your main stat for midle game, you should have 20 kungfu minimum(dont worry, there is beggar who can reseet your stats or delete kungfu, but i dont recommened you to teach all 1star or 2 stars kungfu) Dont forget about POW. Specially seek for inner kungfu, that gives you HP, DEF, ATK, SPD(the most secondary stat but for 2nd act is the most important. GL with your journey :P

[kasura_write]

For me Wine art build is like an easy one. You just need universe in sip and can boost your damage through wine ridiculously high. First wine art manual is at white impermanence graveyard. Though it is quite hard to increase wine art stat and other manual its damage can pretty much one shot a lot of thing by just drinking a few wines.

It helps a lot early when you barely have good kungfus to use and can still change your build later on.

[Seiazen]

Originally posted by Keazel:

tried music-sword build. Also trying play SOLO, Thats though.

Music has really high range attack, also it gives -SPD and and for the start its OP skill

But all my battles drag on for 60-90 moves, the SOLO gameplay at midle of the game seems impossible, but im continue my run, LOL.

If you stucked at 30-40lvl its normal, there is no secret for being stronger, Just grind more, Get 300 lvl blacksmith, lvlup your gear, your party members LVL, also you should have 1 healer. Buy all ingreedients. dont forget to use them, look some guides(ty community for creating them) and check some more kungfu for your build and where you can get theem. Only Wine Art build, i think, the worst build you can try. For example, there is some cool Kungfu with wine and sword.

Also stamina is your main stat for midle game, you should have 20 kungfu minimum(dont worry, there is beggar who can reseet your stats or delete kungfu, but i dont recommened you to teach all 1star or 2 stars kungfu) Dont forget about POW. Specially seek for inner kungfu, that gives you HP, DEF, ATK, SPD(the most secondary stat but for 2nd act is the most important. GL with your journey :P

Thanks a lot for the advice! Although, I was under the impression that focusing 1 stat and 1 type of kung fu was the most optimal because of the in-game tips and other discussions.

[Seiazen]

Originally posted by kasura_write:

For me Wine art build is like an easy one. You just need universe in sip and can boost your damage through wine ridiculously high. First wine art manual is at white impermanence graveyard. Though it is quite hard to increase wine art stat and other manual its damage can pretty much one shot a lot of thing by just drinking a few wines.

It helps a lot early when you barely have good kungfus to use and can still change your build later on.

Yeah I figured, I actually restarted to do an actual wine build instead of my initial fist build with the forefathers fist as a back-up. Fist felt pretty boring and weak when I got up to act 2 with it, I started getting a decent amount manuals for staff, saber, hidden weapon, and sword but not so much for fist. My gut tells me that melody is probably pretty good but I didn't opt into it because there's a melody origin for new game+. Lastly, I wonder if special kung fu gets a lot better? They can do a lot with special but I feel like the early-game special kung fu are boring and mostly "jokes" or "gags" like nutcracker and take off boots. I also wonder if the visual effects for martial arts get more cool / unique because I've seen a lot of skills just be re-skinned with slightly different effects.