What was the point of this demo lol...

[EroticOnion23]

Didn't even have a single combat encounter, nothing but reading texts, hope the final game is more interesting that this...booooooring...

[EJR]

Not every RPG is an all out brawl, some RPG systems heavily rely on text, reading, and roleplay. This applies to some tabletop RPGs as well.

[jc ham]

"Didn't even have a single combat encounter" sounds like someone did a pacifist run

[҉ Đǻ۲ķỈςę♠Ǥŗąχ♠]

Originally posted by EJR:

Not every RPG is an all out brawl, some RPG systems heavily rely on text, reading, and roleplay. This applies to some tabletop RPGs as well.

then they shall add "walk simulator" in genre. for filter this out of. cuz not everyone will pay for "tabletop retired crap" this days.

[EJR]

Originally posted by ҉ Đǻ۲ķỈςę♠Ǥŗąχ♠:

Originally posted by EJR:

Not every RPG is an all out brawl, some RPG systems heavily rely on text, reading, and roleplay. This applies to some tabletop RPGs as well.

then they shall add "walk simulator" in genre. for filter this out of. cuz not everyone will pay for "tabletop retired crap" this days.

Not everyone, but a good number of people still prefer roleplay-heavy games over RPGs centered around combat only. A game where combat happens very often sounds boring to me, unless I was playing an FPS like CoD, Battlefield, etc.

[Undead Rufus]

Originally posted by EroticOnion23:

Didn't even have a single combat encounter, nothing but reading texts, hope the final game is more interesting that this...booooooring...

Man, kids these days....

Whether it will all come together over a whole game remains to be seen, but the writing showcased in the demo is fantastic.

Give that practice combat with the mannequins in the starter area is very basic, I'm glad the focus seems to be on narrative and characters.

[Shlone]

oh, well thanks for saving me time.

[rompier02]

Originally posted by EroticOnion23:

Didn't even have a single combat encounter, nothing but reading texts, hope the final game is more interesting that this...booooooring...

Hi. There are combat in the demo. First is the braindead vs the dummies. Second is with Mason the merc & his 2 buddies. Unfortunately this is also a dud. I listed out the flaws in one of my thread. Just don't use a rifle in that encounter. Hopefully they will upgrade it soon.

Yeah even classic RPGs have combat like PST. Even though that is one of the downside of the game.

[Retr0_Static]

Originally posted by ҉ Đǻ۲ķỈςę♠Ǥŗąχ♠:

Originally posted by EJR:

Not every RPG is an all out brawl, some RPG systems heavily rely on text, reading, and roleplay. This applies to some tabletop RPGs as well.

then they shall add "walk simulator" in genre. for filter this out of. cuz not everyone will pay for "tabletop retired crap" this days.

remember how disco elysium won multiple game of the year awards and was widely praised as one ofthe greatest in the crpg genre?
guess how much combat that one had
and how much of planescape torment revolves around combat

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by Retr0_Static:

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remember how disco elysium won multiple game of the year awards and was widely praised as one ofthe greatest in the crpg genre?
guess how much combat that one had
and how much of planescape torment revolves around combat

You can't expect the twitchy youth of today like this OP who can't stomach what a proper RPG is to play something like Disco Elysium, he would be bored to tears and need his dopamine fix

The one thing I will agree with is that the demo could have included atleast 1 mandatory combat for the sake of 'Demoing' it and providing feedback for the devs though; looking through the forum it seems like the majority of us played the same way with only a few posts now and then talking about the optional combat encounter (And I'd need to do a replay to see how this works myself, which I may or may not do someday)

But otherwise yeah the game sold me on the merits of it's setting, presentation and being the closest damn Fallout inspired CRPG I've seen since the likes of Underrail/Encased/Atom RPG, with this one being being clear head and shoulders among them.

[screeg]

Originally posted by Stoibs:

You can't expect the twitchy youth of today like this OP who can't stomach what a proper RPG is to play something like Disco Elysium, he would be bored to tears and need his dopamine fix :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Temporal chauvinism: the idea that things/people used to be better in ye olden dayes, and often that something essential has changed with the yute. Gimme a break.

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by screeg:

Temporal chauvinism: the idea that things/people used to be better in ye olden dayes, and often that something essential has changed with the yute. Gimme a break.

I mean, this is very clearly a homage and a loveletter to the CRPG's of yesteryear, with it's trailer and overall elevator pitch being that of a more methodical dialogue/social approach, why are people like the OP even here in the first place if they want a shooty shooty bang game.

There is some merit to that thought process anyway, and a reason why so many of us consider that the golden era of gaming. (as an aside look at all the damn remakes and reboots we're getting lately from 20~25 year old masterpieces, clearly the gaming industry sees value in them also)

[EJR]

Originally posted by screeg:

Originally posted by Stoibs:

You can't expect the twitchy youth of today like this OP who can't stomach what a proper RPG is to play something like Disco Elysium, he would be bored to tears and need his dopamine fix :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

Temporal chauvinism: the idea that things/people used to be better in ye olden dayes, and often that something essential has changed with the yute. Gimme a break.

He's not wrong though. I played my fair share of RPGs (OG Fallout, Divine, etc) and the best parts of these games is immersing yourself into the world and exploring it, combat is just an extra method (And bonus) in doing so. Not every RPG needs to be a non-stop action game.

Not saying they are wrong for believing so, nor is OP wrong for his opinion. But as I said, not every RPG needs to have non-stop action, like how not every movie needs to have non-stop action to be considered a masterpiece. Don't like this game (Or demo)? That's fine, just take it as a hint that this game may not be for you when it releases.

Originally posted by Retr0_Static:

The one thing I will agree with is that the demo could have included atleast 1 mandatory combat for the sake of 'Demoing' it and providing feedback for the devs though; looking through the forum it seems like the majority of us played the same way with only a few posts now and then talking about the optional combat encounter (And I'd need to do a replay to see how this works myself, which I may or may not do someday)

I will agree to that, this game could have had one one more combat encounter for this to be a full on demo. I was interested to see how the attack on the town would be done if not for the end of the demo, or if doing anything with the raider in the cage would lead to combat ie, "Thanks... but no witnesses to my escape!"

[KocLobster]

OP is trash. This game looks perfect to me, like I designed myself. If all you care about is combat and nothing else whatsoever, why are you looking at this genre? Go play a FPS

[Florian.]

Someone's never played Disco Elysium and it shows

[tiamats4esgares]

I've played the game for over an hour and no demo. First camp I have to talk to everyone, read all kinds of dialog cuz half isn't voice-acted yet, and do meaningless tasks. Then move onto another camp. Still no combat yet. Very lame. Why can't we be attacked by something on the way to the 2nd camp? Like they're afraid to show off combat.

I don't know if the game is good yet until I know if the combat sucks. Given everything I know, I assume it sucks, so until I see proof that's not true, not buying the game.

And not spending 2 hours playing a demo just to get to the first combat if there even is one.

I don't mind 2 hours of dialog if the game is actually fun but who even knows yet? I'll read the dialog when the game comes out. This is demo to play the game. Not read.