There Aren't Enough Games Like These

[Lestat2150]

Specifically post apocalyptic, CRPG with stats/derived stats and open ended gameplay. With an overworld map with random encounters and specifically TURN based combat.

There are a TON of tactical rpg's that are so linear in design, i get bored after 2 hours. But fallout likes? Maybe 8 or 9 on steam and I own them all and have several hundred hours in some of them.

I'm burnt out and there's nothing left on steam other than this, Urban Strife and a few other games like space wreck that won't release for YEARS.

So thank you for making something like this again. I'm so thirsty for a party based, isometric crpg with stats and combat, and I have nothing else to play. Atom RPG, trudograd, underrail, Fallout 1/2, Encased, Space Wreck, stellar tactics , wasteland 2/3 etc. I've played them all to death.


I will be watching this closely and will be throwing down some $$$ for it the day of release. Its shocking how few fallout like crpg's are on steam. Too many TRPG's that try to emulate xcom and they're too linear or the mission structures I sometimes dislike (timers etc.)

[zhligw]

"Urban Strife and a few other games like space wreck that won't release for YEARS."

You're right about this unfortunately. "coming soon" means maybe never but definitely for YEARS and indefinite. This seems a trend by developers these days and most games like these are either dropped all together and where nothing more than trailers and concept art to begin with or they are reworked through on to infinity till when they are finally released in a state where they are buggy and unbalanced and have lost soul and the original intent. Better to have a game a little buggy and hard to understand at first than something commercialized and stripped down to nothing.
The other trend I see is: "release date 2021, 2022 2023" which becomes 2024...2025 and so on. If you don't know by now at the beginning of the current year when it will be released it will mostly likely not be released at all that year or at the very best the end of the year if you're lucky.

[Inquerion]

@Lestat2150
Yeah, not too many isometric cRPGs like this one, but there is even less 3D cRPGs (like Fallout New Vegas) which I also enjoy.

"There are a TON of tactical rpg's that are so linear in design, i get bored after 2 hours."
- True, it feels like most isometric cRPGs nowadays are combat focused tactical RPGs, where story/choices/freedom are just secondary. Not my cup of tea.

@zhligw
Currently it's just better to wait for GOTY/Definitive Editions of new games.
Unless you enjoy being unpaid betatester...

You see something that seems interesting to you?
You play "demo" for few hours or watch some gameplay videos to make sure that you like it and then you wait few years for final patch/DLC.
After these few years (usually 2-3) you can usually buy cheap and fully finished product.

[zhligw]

Originally posted by Inquerion:

@Lestat2150
Yeah, not too many isometric cRPGs like this one, but there is even less 3D cRPGs (like Fallout New Vegas) which I also enjoy.

"There are a TON of tactical rpg's that are so linear in design, i get bored after 2 hours."
- True, it feels like most isometric cRPGs nowadays are combat focused tactical RPGs, where story/choices/freedom are just secondary. Not my cup of tea.

@zhligw
Currently it's just better to wait for GOTY/Definitive Editions of new games.
Unless you enjoy being unpaid betatester...

You see something that seems interesting to you?
You play "demo" for few hours or watch some gameplay videos to make sure that you like it and then you wait few years for final patch/DLC.
After these few years (usually 2-3) you can usually buy cheap and fully finished product.

Story that can branch and choices matter where it is open and the environment reacts to your decisions even if only in the plot, these games or RPGs are some of my favorite to play. I even love mass effect for this. And its true there doesn't seem to be enough of those.
I also love voice acting. Even if it isn't all that great.

[veryinky]

Dead State, One of my favorite games ever, turn based RPG but unfortunately it's hard to get running on Windows 10 (need to run it under win98 compatibility mode)
Age of Decadence, post Apocalyptic Roman empire, where they got up to nukes and robots then blasted themselves back to the iron age.
Colony Ship (Early access), by same devs, Generation Colony Ship on the middle of it's multi-century long journey had a crew revolt, survivors a century later fighting over scraps as the ship floats along.
Encased, Fallout 1 inspired but 80's retrofuturism.
Shadowrun: Returns, Dragonfall, Hong Kong, technically post apocalyptic, but society has rebuilt, somewhat.
also:
Fallen A2P Protocol, eeh. It's turn based tactical combat but not enough of an RPG.
Subterrain: Mines of Titan(not out), I liked the demo. Hopeful.

It's my favorite genre of game. I know of several more, like Caravaneers 2, Stoneshard, Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, but they're further and further from Fallout-ish CRPGs.

[ŦɭยŦŦ]

feel your pain buddy could try shadowrun but other than that seems like you played all the good ones already

[Mr. Snoop Eastwood]

I agree with everything said here. There is something about that orange-desert /rusty junk town/post apocalyptic vibe that just resonates when done right, imo. Extra points when the writing isn't black and white so role-playing goes beyond "Do I want to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ or not this playthrough?"

[Shook Ones]

Agreed

[texhnolyze]

Indeed. I can't get enough of these games, even more so in AA-AAA space. I play Fallout games for hundreds of hours each because there's no alternatives to them.

There's Tunguska but sadly it's point n click action shooter instead of turn-based.

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by veryinky:

Dead State, One of my favorite games ever, turn based RPG but unfortunately it's hard to get running on Windows 10 (need to run it under win98 compatibility mode)

Woah, someone else who has actually played Dead State?
There's dozens of us!
That was actually my GOTY at the time. Haven't played it since launch though, shame to hear it has win10 issues :/

But yeah there's certainly something about this 2d drawn artsyle that also appeals to me more than others; I've tried to play Atom RPG and Encased but for whatever reason I eventually lost interest in them. This demo hooked me for hours straight until the end so hopefully this will be the next big thing.

[Cutlass Jack]

Count me among the dozens who loved Dead State.

And thanks to this thread pointing me towards Space Wreck. Hard to believe I never heard about it til now. Having fun in the demo.

[Docangle]

Well the Urban Strife dev's are saying that they are pushing for the game to be out this summer

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by Docangle:

Well the Urban Strife dev's are saying that they are pushing for the game to be out this summer

Stop, my 2023 wishlist and lineup is already killing me

[VipreRX]

If you like Fallout, and it's not in your collection yet, and you can find it, try The Fall: Last Days of Gaia.
It was like Fallout 3 before there was a Fallout 3.

[chancepaladin]

Originally posted by veryinky:

Dead State, One of my favorite games ever, turn based RPG but unfortunately it's hard to get running on Windows 10 (need to run it under win98 compatibility mode)
Age of Decadence, post Apocalyptic Roman empire, where they got up to nukes and robots then blasted themselves back to the iron age.
Colony Ship (Early access), by same devs, Generation Colony Ship on the middle of it's multi-century long journey had a crew revolt, survivors a century later fighting over scraps as the ship floats along.
Encased, Fallout 1 inspired but 80's retrofuturism.
Shadowrun: Returns, Dragonfall, Hong Kong, technically post apocalyptic, but society has rebuilt, somewhat.
also:
Fallen A2P Protocol, eeh. It's turn based tactical combat but not enough of an RPG.
Subterrain: Mines of Titan(not out), I liked the demo. Hopeful.

It's my favorite genre of game. I know of several more, like Caravaneers 2, Stoneshard, Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead, but they're further and further from Fallout-ish CRPGs.

shadowrun and deadstate are two of my favorites. I've done at least 3 playthroughs of each. and deadstate as really really easy console mod commands to spice things up for custom runs.

[shadow1222]

Krai mira is similar aswell