Antimatter Dimensions

Antimatter Dimensions

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nu Jan 19, 2023 @ 9:02am
"Eternity" is aptly named...yeesh
Even after unlocking all Eternity milestones, EP/min is still abysmally low. Progression felt great...up until now.

Is this when the real game begins?
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Hypertext Eye Jan 19, 2023 @ 9:38am 
if you have all milestones and it feels slow, you are mismanaging your time studies
lordatog Jan 19, 2023 @ 9:49am 
From this point on (at least until the next prestige layer, which I haven't reached and can't comment on) the game is basically one giant puzzle. You need to figure out the right mix of time studies to get as deep as possible to afford more time theorems, then figure out the best mix for optimal EP/min to unlock more stuff that way, and keep going back and forth this way. And then once you get to the eternity challenges, that adds a third layer of progression you need to manage. A lot of experimentation is basically mandatory. How many time theorems do you have?
nu Jan 19, 2023 @ 10:00am 
Originally posted by lordatog:
A lot of experimentation is basically mandatory. How many time theorems do you have?

45 at the moment.
lordatog Jan 19, 2023 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by nu:
Originally posted by lordatog:
A lot of experimentation is basically mandatory. How many time theorems do you have?

45 at the moment.

That's exactly enough to access the study that improves the infinity point formula (#111). It should be much stronger than anything else you can do right now, and will push you deep enough to get a few more theorems.
Last edited by lordatog; Jan 19, 2023 @ 11:28am
DiMono Jan 19, 2023 @ 5:09pm 
Games like this always end up having a spot like this. I'm at the quintillion EP stage, where I need to decide between staying on EPs and pushing for the next upgrade, or switching to Eternities to chase my second tier of the first Eternity Challenge. It's all experimentation and seeing what works best for you.

Remember that the only person you're competing against is yourself, so as long as those numbers keep going up you're headed in the right direction, even if you haven't quite figured out the optimal formula for your current stage in the game yet.
ghost Jan 19, 2023 @ 5:33pm 
Kinda stuck at 53 Time Theorems. Tried to various combinations of first and second branching parts but can't even climb to e1500 IP.
Not sure what I'm missing. I have around 1.5e7 EP but can't buy anything.
Nico Jan 19, 2023 @ 5:51pm 
I guess to know what you're trying to do you could just post your build, aka the numbers of the time studies you're using. And then we can tell you why those are the wrong time studies and which ones would be better.

One general hint from me would be to just try to push as far as possible, so at the start ignore the split path and just use one. Also, galaxies are op, anythign that boosts galaxies is basically a must have. I'm referring to 42, which decreases the 8th dim cost for galaxies. Big milestones are also the ones that increase your EP, aka time studies 61 and 121-123.

Once you can reach roughly 13x or even 14x you probably want to switch to the infinity dim path, so hat you can still get the second EP boost but can benefit from the stronger dim path, which costs more. And once you can afford 171 you probably want to switch to the time dim path. And only once you reached 171 you slowly try to get the time etudies you ignored along the way. Though while farming for TT's to actually buy new expensive time studies you obiously could still temporarily put them into ... probably 21-41 to get a small boost until you can afford the expensive ones.

It feels like I recently went through that whole time study thing daily, thanks to Realities resetting that ... so it's at least what I'm doing constantly, but no idea if it's the best way to do it.

Originally posted by ghost:
Kinda stuck at 53 Time Theorems. Tried to various combinations of first and second branching parts but can't even climb to e1500 IP.
Not sure what I'm missing. I have around 1.5e7 EP but can't buy anything.
Sounds like you're one off the second EP multiplier, aka 12x. All I can say is that once you get that last one it should get much faster. I guess getting one with EP is the safest option since it's literally just waiting for your EP/min to take care of it. But no idea how far you already exhausted that option. Be sure to find a good spot to big crunch, it's usually at a quite high IP, around when you no longer can quickly reset again, if you use the X times setting, so when you would have to use the time setting or even do manual ones. The time setting is sadly much slower early in the runs, which is why I dislike using it to farm EP. Since if I set the timer too low I can no longer get many replicanti galaxies .....
ghost Jan 19, 2023 @ 6:06pm 
Yeah, I probably just need to farm EP for another hour or so and buy the last TT for next EP multiplier. I thought that maybe I missed something about challenges but it seems that EC is will start further down the tree.
IronAngus Jan 20, 2023 @ 10:26am 
I find Eternity to be interesting but also annoying. Not only are there now multiple path options to test but there is also a fair amount of jitter between runs so you can't be sure if a 10% EP/min increase is an actual improvement or just a lucky run.
Nyu Jan 20, 2023 @ 10:56am 
Originally posted by IronAngus:
I find Eternity to be interesting but also annoying. Not only are there now multiple path options to test but there is also a fair amount of jitter between runs so you can't be sure if a 10% EP/min increase is an actual improvement or just a lucky run.
what luck?
not sure what you mean with rng about better ep runs.
IronAngus Jan 20, 2023 @ 11:20am 
Originally posted by Nyu:
what luck?
not sure what you mean with rng about better ep runs.

My current EP/min with my current favorite settings I've seen as low as 5.38 T EP/min and as high as 7.88 EP/min. So if I change a setting and get 7.40 for my new run, is that an improvement or just a lucky run?
Nyu Jan 20, 2023 @ 12:32pm 
if you change something its not luck lmao.

how is it luck if you change something?
IronAngus Jan 20, 2023 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Nyu:
if you change something its not luck lmao.

how is it luck if you change something?

Reading comprehension fail. Try again.
Nyu Jan 20, 2023 @ 2:07pm 
you cannot name a single luck based part.
you have problems giving me an example.

if your ep switches between 5.38 and 7.88 its a skillissue and you do something really wrong.


you are not in the area where the game is luckbased at all.
and if you dont agree and cannot give me an example you are just trying to troll.

the game is not random for you at 7ep/min
archmag Jan 20, 2023 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by IronAngus:
My current EP/min with my current favorite settings I've seen as low as 5.38 T EP/min and as high as 7.88 EP/min. So if I change a setting and get 7.40 for my new run, is that an improvement or just a lucky run?
You need to look at an average value through several runs. Which is why there are 10 runs which are recorded in statistics and even an average value calculated for them. If one average is 6 T ep/min in 10 runs and another is 7.2 T ep/min then you did improve your runs. But don't use the final value of the run to compare them.

As a suggestion on how to find your sweet spot for the settings - turn off Automatic Eternity and do a long run (several minutes long). Look at "Peaked at" value but don't stop when it starts dropping as it rises and drops all the time (usually when you autobuy new galaxies). Remember the "Peaked at" value at the end of the run, that's the best value for this set of all other autobuyers and time studies. Switch them around, do a long run again, get new "Peaked at value", compare them. Change settings around and use the one with the highest "Peaked at value" and then do one more run and notice when exactly you reach this value and set Automatic Eternity autobuyer to that value and finally turn it on. Yeah, there may still be some variations in your runs but it will still be close to the best value so it is fine to do runs with it.

Originally posted by Nyu:
yif your ep switches between 5.38 and 7.88 its a skillissue and you do something really wrong.


you are not in the area where the game is luckbased at all.
and if you dont agree and cannot give me an example you are just trying to troll.

the game is not random for you at 7ep/min
Just go into statistics and look at your own last 10 resets for the corresponding stage. For example, if you are at eternities look at last 10 eternities. With my current settings I have up to 7% variations - 5.07e23 ep/min to 5.46e23ep/min. This happens because calculations are quite complex and really depend on when autobuyers and calculations for the next tick triggers. And they are not triggering at the same intervals no matter what is written on their setting page. If in one run some autobuyer triggers in 0.101 seconds and in another in 0.1 seconds you will get slightly different results.

Huge variations like in OP's example may happen when his settings are on the border which can be passed by small variations in triggers. For example, he has a setting to do an eternity at 1e10 EP, and he usually gets it in 3 autocrunches which gives 7.88/min, but sometime after 3 autocrunches he ends up at 9.9e9 EP instead and has to do another crunch which takes some time and doesn't give enough EP to increase the gains per minute and as a results ends up with 5.38/min. So even small variations provided by triggers result in large variations in end results. The shorter the run the more noticable this effect will be.

Edit: but I would agree about the skill issue maybe, instead of leaving auto eternity at 1e10 EP in this case which results in sometimes much lower gains it would be better to set it to 9.8e9 EP to always avoid having the 4th auto crunch.
Last edited by archmag; Jan 21, 2023 @ 12:16am
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