Need tips, 1st Reality incoming

[malogoss]

1) I'll get 3 Reality Machine soon. Is it worth going for more?

2) Sub question, the top row RM upgrade costs are 1-1-2-2-3. Any suggestion which ones to pick?

I find it tough to evaluate what will be more beneficial once I will reset. No idea if Replicanti, Eternity Points or something else will become the new weak link.
Thanks.

[Nyu]

no math no arguments sad.

so DT>TP

[Hypertext Eye]

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

no math no arguments sad.

so DT>TP

says the one who keeps making this claim with literally nothing to back it up.

DT does not exist without TP. you cannot get DT without TP.
a 3x boost to TP is literally a direct and immediate 3x boost to DT.
a 3x boost to DT is not a 3x boost to TP. it does increase TP, but only indirectly and over time, through dilation upgrades.

TP is higher priority than DT. you have no counterargument, so all you can say is "lol no guys you're all wrong! DT is best!"
the only reason to buy DT over TP is if you don't have enough RM to buy TP.

[malogoss]

You can keep defending your points, but just know this :

I settled for 3 RM. It does not take too long to reach, 4 RM would have been painful.
I started the next run holding to those 3 RM, see what needs a boost. The Eternity x3 feels pretty expensive at 2 RM for what it does. So I did not boost it. Which means it took a little longer to get to 100 Eternity for automation and to get the Eternity amount needed for EC1, but it's honestly not that bad even without it.

The Replicanti boost means next to nothing with the achievement auto-buyer anyway. The only place you'd really save time with that upgrade is to clear EC11, but that's what, like a 1-2 hour save at most? Probably not worth it.

So I reached time dilation stage with 3 RM unused, I invested them in DT and TP, roughly 7 hours later I was at 1e15 DT (edit: or did I have time dimension 8 unlocked at that point? Don't remember). So those 2 upgrades saved me days of waiting for DT.

In summary :
3 RM was a good point to stop.
Going for DT and TP upgrades worked perfectly for me.
I can see how going for DT and Eternity instead is also viable and also a good choice.

Final note : before finishing that 1st Reality, do yourself a favor and take the time to UNLOCK ACHIEVEMENT 143, IT WILL BE YOUR REALITY #2 MVP.

Past that point, upgrading DT or TP will pretty much come down to the RM you have available. I don't see the need to debate which one is better and by what margin.

[Hypertext Eye]

Publicado originalmente por malogoss:

In summary :
3 RM was a good point to stop.
Going for DT and TP upgrades worked perfectly for me.

This is exactly what I recommend.

TP is also better than eternity count so you made the right choice there. Having more TP in your current reality will get you more RM for your next reality.

Publicado originalmente por malogoss:

Past that point, upgrading DT or TP will pretty much come down to the RM you have available.

I said basically this already.

[Nyu]

Publicado originalmente por Hypertext Eye:

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

no math no arguments sad.

so DT>TP

says the one who keeps making this claim with literally nothing to back it up.

DT does not exist without TP. you cannot get DT without TP.
a 3x boost to TP is literally a direct and immediate 3x boost to DT.
a 3x boost to DT is not a 3x boost to TP. it does increase TP, but only indirectly and over time, through dilation upgrades.

TP is higher priority than DT. you have no counterargument, so all you can say is "lol no guys you're all wrong! DT is best!"
the only reason to buy DT over TP is if you don't have enough RM to buy TP.

so your argument is:no lul
and you projecting thatz i said: lol no guys you are all wrong???

so DT>TP

i guess you never dilated for the first time.
DT litterally generates TP
and dont need any TP to dilate time.

[Huillam]

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

so your argument is:no lul

Really? From the very beginning your "argument" has been "DT>TP" and you're trying to pull that one?

[Hypertext Eye]

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

Publicado originalmente por Hypertext Eye:

says the one who keeps making this claim with literally nothing to back it up.

DT does not exist without TP. you cannot get DT without TP.
a 3x boost to TP is literally a direct and immediate 3x boost to DT.
a 3x boost to DT is not a 3x boost to TP. it does increase TP, but only indirectly and over time, through dilation upgrades.

TP is higher priority than DT. you have no counterargument, so all you can say is "lol no guys you're all wrong! DT is best!"
the only reason to buy DT over TP is if you don't have enough RM to buy TP.

so your argument is:no lul
and you projecting thatz i said: lol no guys you are all wrong???

so DT>TP

i guess you never dilated for the first time.
DT litterally generates TP
and dont need any TP to dilate time.

Ok then you just have no idea at all what you're talking about. We're done here.

[Nyu]

good you agree
dt>tp

[Nico]

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

DT litterally generates TP

Well, now you made me curious. How can DT generate TP? Wouldn't that mean it is possible to get DT before you even got any TP? How is that possible? I am at least only aware of a single way to get DT and only 2 ways to get TP, so I'm interested in hearing about 1. a new way to get DT and 2. a new way to get TP (seemingly from DT) the only ways I know how to get TP are from ending a dilation (and theoretially also the Reality perk that causes your TP also increase if you buy an upgrade that increases your TP gain, but that's just to skip having to do a dilation run with every upgrade, so not really a way to get more TP but just multiplying your existing TP) and ofc with the other Reality perk that gives you 10 TP. So, again, how does DT generate TP?

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

and dont need any TP to dilate time.

Well, obviously you don't need any TP to dilate time, that would basically make it impossible to ever get any TP since you usually can only get TP if you dilate time, so needing TP to dilate time to get your very first TP wouldn't make any sense to begin with.

[Cringe Guy 2086]

dilated time does NOT generate tachyon particles you got this backwards

[Nyu]

why does no one do the math. sad.
i stand with DT>TP
and thanks for putting some arguments in this time nico.
i have hope you do the math soon how much better TP upgrades are over DT
i am curious but stay DT fanboy until that moment.

[Cringe Guy 2086]

Publicado originalmente por Nyu:

why does no one do the math. sad.
i stand with DT>TP
and thanks for putting some arguments in this time nico.
i have hope you do the math soon how much better TP upgrades are over DT
i am curious but stay DT fanboy until that moment.

we have done the math. 3x TP is 3x DT because TP produces DT. so instead of getting 1 TP which produces 1 DT/s, you get 3 TP which produces 3 DT/s. a 3x multiplier to DT AND TP at the same time. TP also produces TT with the last dilation upgrade, so you are also tripling your TT generation, whereas if you just got the 3x DT, it would not triple your TT generation, so tripling TP is more of a boost than tripling DT, as tripling DT only helps with DT, but tripling TP helps with DT and TT