Need tips, 1st Reality incoming

[malogoss]

1) I'll get 3 Reality Machine soon. Is it worth going for more?

2) Sub question, the top row RM upgrade costs are 1-1-2-2-3. Any suggestion which ones to pick?

I find it tough to evaluate what will be more beneficial once I will reset. No idea if Replicanti, Eternity Points or something else will become the new weak link.
Thanks.

[mrc5507]

1) Past a certain point it becomes exponentially more difficult to get RM on your first reality: the formula introduces a softcap at e6000 EP (which took around 6 months for me) and a hardcap at e8000. I think three is fine because you can buy multiple upgrades.
2) I'd go with either DT or TP and Replicanti

[Yiasmat]

Yes, i think the dilated time is best. Followed by tachyon particles then replicanti.
The guide suggests to get 4 RM (at r4444 EP) which i found to be completely impossible so i just realitied with 2 RM since i was ultra super mega hard stuck on e4200 EP. In the end it's up to you to decide. I for myself found the dilated time and particles by far the most boring part of my first reality, so i took everything that made that a tad bit faster. Replaying the rest is kinda like a blast rather than a chore, which i can't say for DT and TP...

[Nyu]

dilated time, particles, replicanti enternity/infinite in that order

and the hardcap for RM is only on your first reality (so long time players didnt get boosted too much)
best scenario you get all upgrades in first row, atleast the first 3 i listed
DT and and TP will make you get more RM next reality
replicanti will boost your game just overall

[malogoss]

Thanks for your input, all three of you.

I'm now at 3 RM. Going on 4 is up to me. Do I prefer to restart and play an active game or invest a few more days maybe a week in a real idle game. A few days isn't much compared to what it took to reach this point.

Also, I agree that Dilated Time is the biggest problem at this point. The early game, I assume, will get very fast because of all the achievements/records, mid game was all about replicanti speed but then the "idle" path does not slow replicanti anymore. Later it's all about sitting there and waiting for DT and TP production.

I'll see what I'll do, but at least now I have an idea of what my picks should be based on.
Thank you.

[Hypertext Eye]

bear in mind that a boost to TP is a direct boost to DT

[Nyu]

DT>TP

[Hypertext Eye]

Originally posted by Nyu:

DT>TP

why though

[Huillam]

Originally posted by malogoss:

Also, I agree that Dilated Time is the biggest problem at this point. The early game, I assume, will get very fast because of all the achievements/records, mid game was all about replicanti speed but then the "idle" path does not slow replicanti anymore. Later it's all about sitting there and waiting for DT and TP production.

Not that fast: Until you're back at 100 eternities you'll be missing some automations.

[Biometrix]

Originally posted by Nyu:

DT>TP

False, TP > DT.

TP directly correlates and usually comes in higher multipliers. It's a non-farmable resource, so it's important to get as much as possible.

[Nyu]

the mutliplier we talk about is litterally the same and tp are farmable.

DT>TP
you got no counterarguments.

[Huillam]

The maths may very well prove me wrong but TPs being on top of the chain they look like the obvious choice.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Nyu:

the mutliplier we talk about is litterally the same and tp are farmable.

DT>TP
you got no counterarguments.

TP>DT. TP directly generates DT, so DT has absolutely no advantages over TP. BUT TP also boosts TT generation, whereas DT doesn't, so more TP helps in unlocking the TD's quicker, which DT's just don't help with. If it's unlocked within a run it's obviously a bit debatable as you first need to start another dilation run before the TP multiplier works, but if you get it before you unlock Dilation it's clearly superior.

[Nyu]

Originally posted by Nico:

Originally posted by Nyu:

the mutliplier we talk about is litterally the same and tp are farmable.

DT>TP
you got no counterarguments.

TP>DT. TP directly generates DT, so DT has absolutely no advantages over TP. BUT TP also boosts TT generation, whereas DT doesn't, so more TP helps in unlocking the TD's quicker, which DT's just don't help with. If it's unlocked within a run it's obviously a bit debatable as you first need to start another dilation run before the TP multiplier works, but if you get it before you unlock Dilation it's clearly superior.

we talk about reality upgrades not dilation
the dilation has a 3x tp upgrade
thats why its better

also with your logic dt makes more TP faster avaible. so DT boosts TP and does everrything you said. also the DT each TP produces is doubled.
so lul?
this is not argueable without someone doing the real math and until that i stay with;

DT and TP upgrades BOTH are just x2 in reality upgrades
DT>TP

[Nico]

Originally posted by Nyu:

Originally posted by Nico:

TP>DT. TP directly generates DT, so DT has absolutely no advantages over TP. BUT TP also boosts TT generation, whereas DT doesn't, so more TP helps in unlocking the TD's quicker, which DT's just don't help with. If it's unlocked within a run it's obviously a bit debatable as you first need to start another dilation run before the TP multiplier works, but if you get it before you unlock Dilation it's clearly superior.

we talk about reality upgrades not dilation
the dilation has a 3x tp upgrade
thats why its better

also with your logic dt makes more TP faster avaible. so DT boosts TP and does everrything you said. also the DT each TP produces is doubled.
so lul?
this is not argueable without someone doing the real math and until that i stay with;

DT and TP upgrades BOTH are just x2 in reality upgrades
DT>TP

...what? I fear I have no diea what you were trying to say. Why suddenly mentioning the Dilation upgrades? I thought we were talkign about the regular Reality upgrades. and how should DT bost TP gains? That makes no sense to me.

It's so stupidly simple, why do you make it sound so complicated? Each TP produces DT, so each TP boost is an equal DT bost, so for just DT gain they're absolutely equal. But since TP also boosts TT generation, which DT doesn't, it automatically means that a TP booster is superior, since it does the same as a DT boost, just more.

[Cringe Guy 2086]

TP is a better upgrade, if you have 2 spare RMs and you have to choose between TP and DT, get TP.

Originally posted by Nyu:

Originally posted by Nico:

TP>DT. TP directly generates DT, so DT has absolutely no advantages over TP. BUT TP also boosts TT generation, whereas DT doesn't, so more TP helps in unlocking the TD's quicker, which DT's just don't help with. If it's unlocked within a run it's obviously a bit debatable as you first need to start another dilation run before the TP multiplier works, but if you get it before you unlock Dilation it's clearly superior.

we talk about reality upgrades not dilation
the dilation has a 3x tp upgrade
thats why its better

also with your logic dt makes more TP faster avaible. so DT boosts TP and does everrything you said. also the DT each TP produces is doubled.
so lul?
this is not argueable without someone doing the real math and until that i stay with;

DT and TP upgrades BOTH are just x2 in reality upgrades
DT>TP