relic tierlist

[SylentzFPS]

hey, does anyone know where to find a relic tier list? im kinda new been playing for around 6 days now and my relic stash is totally full so i kinda need to delete stuff so that i can get new black books and so on but i cant really find a good up to date tierlist, anyone can help me out?

[Irri]

It really depends on your playstyle and your current progression.

Like spamming excavations ? Enough divine golden scythes to make your scientists immortal so you can take your time to corrupt them at the core and make them even more potent.
Coupled with divine Endless Scientist Speed Potion to level them faster or Books of Success to limit their fail rate.

Lack of Isotopes ? Divine Endless Miner Speed potion relics coupled with Divine Elemenal Pike relcs. Both don't have a hard cap so you can choose on either to focus on. When you get the reactor and the buff lab you can stack even more bonus on both effects.

Money making ?
Divine MIdas Touch (Don't go for the hard cap as it takes 10 relic slots) paired with Divine Golden Shovels and 3 Warped Golden Pickaxe (Which you would throw away later on considering how long digging gets)
This combined with Big Cheeses you get from excavation while stockpiling your highest found mineral can net you a ton of money.

Timelapser ?
6 Divine Book of Time and 1 regular for 100% Timelapse bonus. Rest of load out can be anything you want but Divine Keys of Luck to increase chest sapwn thus potentially getting more timelpase from chests is a good idea. You can also make am mix of Key of Luck and Nugget of Attraction to get a bit more money from chests.


Rest is question of flexibility.
Reached a point where upgrades costs are beyond your income and take too long to purchase ?
2x Divine Pay Cut / 2x Sparkly Distraction for BP cost or miner upgrades. Usually gets usefull on late Moon. Ideally you also want the super miner Thoth at level 10 to buff those relics effects. This setup allows you to reach the hard cap of 80% for each/

Weapon/Hp buff relics aren't needed but I like to keep at least one Divine Golden Bow to do crits.

The relics that boost material found from chest can be skipped to as you eventually get enough from caves/excavations/golden chests.

Relics related to the Forge are useless be it the gem upgrade time or wider well especially if you have a timelapse loadout.

Keep at least one slot free for Books of Secrets as long as your relic loadout isn't final.

Sack of Endurance and Cargo Expansion are useless too. You constantly go ovecap on your cargo capacity and you'll be able to easily stack buff duration at the buff lab at some point.

Drill speed potion : Useless now that you can get Drill Speed Super miners.

[Irri]

Sorry for the long post which could be a TLDR one but if a tier has to be done it would be :

S Tier :

-Book of Secrets : Divining/Warping of relics and Scientist
-Golden Scythe : Mandatory making Scientist Immortal
-Book of Time : 100% timelapse effect mandatory when being very active in the game
-Midas Touch + Golden Shovel + Cheese combo : Maximize the value of minerals to make money
-2x Sparkly Distraction / 2x Pay Cut + Level 10 Thoth : Can chunk the price cost down to 20% of the original value of BPs and Miner hiring/upgrades
-Elemental Pickaxe : Oh boy you gonna need those with the Elemental pickaxe buff from the Buff lab once you'll need Helium-3. Still very useful to keep a constant crafting of fuel rods.

A tier :

-Key of Gold / of Luck : Again ideal when being active and to compress chests into golden and ethereal ones). Even stronger with Super Miners that boost chest spawn around their floors.
- Endless Scientist Boost Potion / Books of Succes : Strong with the immortal scientist build to boost them super quickly but not necessarily mandatory.
- Golden Bow : Enough to get 100% crit chance in the early game then removing them to keep one once all your weapons are levelled enough.

B Tier :

-Nugget of Attraction / Endless Miner Speed Potion :A decent addition but not necessarily needed, increase the amount of money in chest is affected by both depth and mining speed, nuggets are the icing on the cake.
- Sack of Endurance : Could help prolong the effect of buffs as long as you don't have the buff lab, problem is many buffs are affected by timelapse effect so it would still shorten them in a way. Useless once you can maintain constant buffs with the buff lab.
- Book of Ingenuity : Again probably useful early when you have a ton of options to upgrade that require materials but for later upgrades you'l be waiting for something else than materials. The fact it doesn't affect golden chests makes it a weaker choice.
- Drone relics : can be useful early until you've upgraded your drones enough

C Tier :
-Wider Well : Could help in the very early stages as you don't get much from chests or others sources yet.

Useless Tier :
- Steel Shield / Sword of War / Light Golden Boots : You need crit damage not health or attack speed nor basic damage modifier. Golden bows do the job perfectly.
- Any low grade variant of weapon / pickaxe / scythe
- Egg of Incubation : This game is different from true idle games n my opinion. You have way more actions and management to do thus offline progression isn't the main focus (especially with how strong timelapse is). Lv3 manager does the job plus your cargo tend to get full rapidly even while offline.
- Endless Gem Speed Potion : Assuming you stack timelapse bonus and how frequently you upgrade your weapons, this one is totally useless. Even Yellow gems won't take long enough to justify its use.
- Endless Drill Potion : Maybe early game but thanks to Super Miners you won't need them.
- Cargo Expansion : You constantly go overcap from mineral found in chests / excavation / caves.

Unepxlored yet Tier :
Juicer : Will probably be in a good tier since there is no limit of Super MIner you can get (Hard cap of 100% bonus) but still something you'd consider in the late stage of the game. It's effect seems also useless for Super Miners with can push the efect of other relics to their hardcaps easilty.

[SylentzFPS]

Originally posted by Irri:

Sorry for the long post which could be a TLDR one but if a tier has to be done it would be :

S Tier :

-Book of Secrets : Divining/Warping of relics and Scientist
-Golden Scythe : Mandatory making Scientist Immortal
-Book of Time : 100% timelapse effect mandatory when being very active in the game
-Midas Touch + Golden Shovel + Cheese combo : Maximize the value of minerals to make money
-2x Sparkly Distraction / 2x Pay Cut + Level 10 Thoth : Can chunk the price cost down to 20% of the original value of BPs and Miner hiring/upgrades
-Elemental Pickaxe : Oh boy you gonna need those with the Elemental pickaxe buff from the Buff lab once you'll need Helium-3. Still very useful to keep a constant crafting of fuel rods.

A tier :

-Key of Gold / of Luck : Again ideal when being active and to compress chests into golden and ethereal ones). Even stronger with Super Miners that boost chest spawn around their floors.
- Endless Scientist Boost Potion / Books of Succes : Strong with the immortal scientist build to boost them super quickly but not necessarily mandatory.
- Golden Bow : Enough to get 100% crit chance in the early game then removing them to keep one once all your weapons are levelled enough.

B Tier :

-Nugget of Attraction / Endless Miner Speed Potion :A decent addition but not necessarily needed, increase the amount of money in chest is affected by both depth and mining spees, nuggets are the icing on the cake.
- Sack of Endurance : Could help prolong the effect of buffs as long as you don't have the buff lab, problem is many buffs are affected by timelapse effect so it would still shorten them in a way. Useless once you can maintain constant buffs with the buff lab.
- Book of Ingenuity : Again probably useful early when you have a ton of optiosn to upgrade that require materials but for later upgrades you'l be waiting for something else than materials. The fact it doesn't affect golden chests makes it a weaker choice.
- Drone relics : can be useful early until you've upgraded your drones enough

C Tier :
-Wider Well : Could help in the very early stages as you don't get much from chests or others sources yet.

Useless Tier :
- Steel Shield / Sword of War / Light Golden Boots : You need crit damage not health or attack speed nor basic damage modifier. Golden bows do the job perfectly.
- Any low grade variant of weapon / pickaxe / scythe
- Egg of Incubation : This game is different from true idle games n my opinion/ You have way more actions and management to do thus offline progression isn't the main focus (especially with how strong timelapse is).
- Endless Gem Speed Potion : Assuming you stack timelapse bonus and how frequently you upgrade your weapons, this one is totally useless.
- Endless Drill Potion : Maybe early game but thanks to Super Miners you won't need them.
- Cargo Expansion : Youo constantly go overcap from mineral found in chests / excavation / caves.

Unepxlored yet Tier :
Juicer : Will probably be in a good tier since there is no limit of Super MIner you can get (Hard cap of 100% bonus) but still something you'd consider in the late stage of the game. It's effect seems also useless for Super Miners with can push the efect of other relics to their hardcaps easilty.

damn thats soo much explaining, thanks a ton, this isnt tldr this is amazing and totally just what i really needed, thanks now i can get even better at the game :D

[milan.mrlian]

corrupt relics are best !
:-)

[Irri]

After a little experimenting I realized a few things :

This assumes you possess a Thoth level 10.
3 divine golden scythes paired with Thoth's buff allows you to permanently ressurect your scientist (Just activate the buff if one died and ressurect it as long as the buff is up).

This also allows you to freely warp them with a Book of Secrets.
As you're about to attempt to warp your scientist activate the buff. You'll have a window during the whole buff duration to successfully warp your scientist.

I also put both Book of Success and Endless Scientist Boosting potion relics in A tier but I consider them useless now since you're at no risk of losing your scientists so them ganing exp faster or failing an excavation becomes irrelevant.

That would make a final relic loadout as follow fo active player :

-6 divine Book of Time and 1 regular Book of Time = 100% timelapse bonus
-3 divine Golden Scythe (Thoth lvl 10 required) = free revivals and timelapse bonus help recharging the buff faster
-2 divine Sparkly Distraction + Thoth = 20% crost of drill BPs
-2 divine Pay Cut + Thoth = 20% miner upgrade cost
Last slot assuming you won't need it anymore Book of Secrets for Core warping is free but since I constantly use the buff lab and super miner buffs, I divined a Sack of Endurance (Which works for ALL sources of buffs in the game)

My opinion on the other relics in the tier position remains the same.
I decided to put the Juicer relic in A tier (S Tier for long term gameplay). For players that have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of super miner (40+ I'd say) a divine Juicer basically gives them an extra level beyond max level. Is mostly super effective with buff granting super miners and legendary class super miners)

Cheers

[SylentzFPS]

Originally posted by Irri:

After a little experimenting I realized a few things :

This assumes you possess a Thoth level 10.
3 divine golden scythes paired with Thoth's buff allows you to permanently ressurect your scientist (Just activate the buff if one died and ressurect it as long as the buff is up).

This also allows you to freely warp them with a Book of Secrets.
As you're about to attempt to warp your scientist activate the buff. You'll have a window during the whole buff duration to successfully warp your scientist.

I also put both Book of Success and Endless Scientist Boosting potion relics in A tier but I consider them useless now since you're at no risk of losing your scientists so them ganing exp faster or failing an excavation becomes irrelevant.

That would make a final relic loadout as follow fo active player :

-6 divine Book of Time and 1 regular Book of Time = 100% timelapse bonus
-3 divine Golden Scythe (Thoth lvl 10 required) = free revivals and timelapse bonus help recharging the buff faster
-2 divine Sparkly Distraction + Thoth = 20% crost of drill BPs
-2 divine Pay Cut + Thoth = 20% miner upgrade cost
Last slot assuming you won't need it anymore Book of Secrets for Core warping is free but since I constantly use the buff lab and super miner buffs, I divined a Sack of Endurance (Which works for ALL sources of buffs in the game)

My opinion on the other relics in the tier position remains the same.
I decided to put the Juicer relic in A tier (S Tier for long term gameplay). For players that have a ♥♥♥♥ ton of super miner (40+ I'd say) a divine Juicer basically gives them an extra level beyond max level. Is mostly super effective with buff granting super miners and legendary class super miners)

Cheers

thanks a lot, guess i need to switch all my relics now since i kinda went for a gold making build but im sure your relics setup is also for late game mostly right? and i also dont have thoth so yeah a lot of work to do still....