Balancing

[Magicman]

I'm currently at W2-336 and progress is reaaally slow. it takes ages to get to 100 q for the next upgrade. Also trades offers me upgrades which will cost more than a 1000q. I don't get the point.

[old_Navy_twidget]

Originally posted by Magicman:

I'm currently at W2-336 and progress is reaaally slow. ... I don't get the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34CZjsEI1yU

Brothers of the mine rejoice!
(Swing, swing, swing with me!)
Raise your pick and raise your voice!
(Sing, sing, sing with me!)

Down and down into the deep
Who knows what we'll find beneath?
Diamonds, rubies, gold, and more
Hidden in the mountain store

Born underground
Suckled from a teat of stone
Raised in the dark
The safety of our mountain home

Skin made of iron
Steel in our bones
To dig and dig makes us free
Come on, brothers, sing with me!

I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole
Diggy diggy hole, diggy diggy hole
I am a dwarf and I'm digging a hole
Diggy diggy hole, digging a hole

[milan.mrlian]

you have right but you lose hope when you must reach 50 Kvintilions
w-2 560 is hell
1550-1600 be your suicide -- was my i leave game for 2 months
when play -- play 2 game as co op game
i play Hero wars and this is only wait for 2 min times
find other game and play multi games in once

[Irri]

It depends. What'syour relic setup and how active are you in the game ?
Do you constantly have both miner and drill speed buffs on ?
Have you started to stack drill speed super miners ?
To me it only got slower when trying to reach deapth 1565 but once I got all the part fromthe level 29 drill I got down to 12h per levels.

[old_Navy_twidget]

Originally posted by Irri:

It depends. What's your relic setup and how active are you in the game ?

10 Golden Scythes ++ (100% resurrection) & 5 Sparkly Distractions (50% off Blueprint cost). All my 3 legendary scientists are warped and at levels 96, 94 & 93.

DO you constantly have both miner and drill speed buffs on ?

Drill speed yes but I prefer the elemental pike buff to increase chances on finding isotopes.

Have you started to stack drill speed super miners ?

Forest @ level 6 55% drill speed increase and Sax and Aayla at levels 2 & 1 for 30% and 15% speed increases.

To me it only got slower when trying to reach depth 1565 but once I got all the part from the level 29 drill I got down to 12h per levels.

I'm at level 1550 and it feels like forever between levels so this is something to look forward to at level 1565.
There I can get the Neodymium I need (10K needed) to buy the level 29 engine. Currently I have the level 29 drill.

[Irri]

I started getting Neodynium at floor 1562. Yes that engine will make your life much easier. As soon as I got it I went down from 100+h of dig to like 17h.
Gettig a Thoth super miner oculd be nice too since he can double the effect of your Sparklys at level 1.

[old_Navy_twidget]

Got Thoth and it has only buffed my miner's speed, so far.
Not complaining, just saying.

[Irri]

Never considered it a complaint.
To compensante digging scaling that way, I'm doing a build that consists of having 100% timelapse bonus as i'm pretty active. Coupled with some super miners and the buffs it works okay. It'sjust sad I have to sacrifice my scientists in the process. Final relic load out could be 6 divine books of time + 1 regular, 3 divine Sparklys Thothed for purchases, but i'm undecided on the 5 remaining slots. COuld be 5 divine golden scythes of books of success. There are still options that's for sure.

[Magicman]

Recommended relicts?
i use 5 books of success, 1 drill upgrade, 1 golden shovel, 1 juicer, few others less helpful i think.
i'm also trying to get most miners to increase drill speed.

still wondering why traders make offers, which are completly unachievable at that point.
i make around 10q a day. So it takes 10 days for 1 drill upgrade.

[:D]

Originally posted by Magicman:

Recommended relicts?
i use 5 books of success, 1 drill upgrade, 1 golden shovel, 1 juicer, few others less helpful i think.
i'm also trying to get most miners to increase drill speed.

still wondering why traders make offers, which are completly unachievable at that point.
i make around 10q a day. So it takes 10 days for 1 drill upgrade.

Im at w2-358
I feel your pain :D

[Irri]

Your relic loadout clearly is determined by how active you can be every day, if you wan't to focus on scientists, the level of your structures.
If you want to always be able to make trades make sure you lock just enough of each mineral to be able to afford them. Like rigfht now I reserve at least 1m5 of each mineral
to be able to make all trade. Ofc some are a pass like when you need to pay a relic with mineral where the cost is ridiculous and you might as well skip it.

[Magicman]

in case of trading i'm talking about blueprints which costs way more than 1000q while i can make 10q per day.
All other trades are possible.

[Irri]

Aside from making sure you have constantly the miner speed buff on, which impacst a lot the amount of money in chests, you could stockpile like half of your storage of the most expensive mineral you can get and sell it after finding a cheese. Coupled with divine golden shovels and Thoth's buff you could stack a ton of bonus to mineral price and earn a good amount. Always use a nugget buff (the 10 minutes one is enought) before opening all your chests (ideally adding a buff found in cave in hope to get a second 50% nugget).
I'm personnaly at a point where i'm not focusing too much on my super miners level and stack up a ton of condensed golden chests that I open all at once with as much buffs active as possible. To give you an idea I'm at depth 1600 and can get up to 40 quads per chest, and if it's not money it's a big stack of promethium which also sells for a lot. They take 12h base to condense but with enough timelapse bonuses you can spawn a good amount each day. assuming you're active enough.

[Magicman]

Thanks for your recommendation. I'll keep that in mind.
btw i can't remember when i last got a cheese from my scientists. Its weeks ago

[Aceace152]

Originally posted by Magicman:

Thanks for your recommendation. I'll keep that in mind.
btw i can't remember when i last got a cheese from my scientists. Its weeks ago

I couldn't see it from skimming the thread but the cheese has a condition needed to be passed for it to spawn

so the game checks if any of your last three discovered minerals have 14 days worth of it in your storage
if it is the case the cheese can't spawn
at your level it's going to be titanium because of it's slow mine rate; you need much less of it to reach that limit and stop the cheese from spawning

yeah the game has gotten better at showing the limits of effects but still not the best tbh

(original explanation
so there is a check for if you have 14 days mined worth of one of the last 3 discovered minerals (what I mean is say you have 15 days of titanium in storage (which isn't the hardest thing to do because of it's slow miner rate), that would mean the big cheese won't spawn)
)

[Magicman]

Another update. Meanwhile i reached Titan. Yay. The first 200 Levels of it were done like nothing and also i was able to get all drill updates within a week or two.
But now at W3-228 after finding robot MK3 its unbelievable slow again.
Next upgrade costs about 3Quadrillion while i could make ~50 Trillion a day.
O3 is at 300 but i need 10k

Why are there so hard to do grinding gaps while other upgrades could be done in no time?