do not disappoint us

[Milord]

This game has wasted potential, as long as they don't add options to act more violently, and with the addition of other illegal activities it will be perfect. I love this era and I'm playing it, I expect a lot from the developers I trust

[Decker]

it just came out dude... you want wasted potential?...try heroes and generals...i can tell you all about it.
bit too early to judge this since no one has made it to the end yet..
ive been at this over for like 60 hrs and have have a pretty good gang running around.
its really fun when you find the groove.

people will disappointed..to each their own
And some of us will love it.
Good luck.

[Milord]

you have a gang of delivery boys not gangsters, they lack options to act really violent playing I still don't feel like a criminal

[COVAK]

You can damage businesses if they refuse to pay. You can get guns from cops and other sources to kill rivals. You can beat down rivals....theres violence. Its just not its focus nor is it extreme.

[Raremob]

I'm enjoying the game, the main focus isn't violence but it is there as you get farther into the game, also you can pick that one perk street brawler if you want and go after the corner gangs. I think they will add more stuff down the road if the game has a lot of support thou, but post like this aren't helping.

[rickerts]

i don't get it. you want more violence, there are other games out there,... if all you wanted was blood and gore, Empire of Sin has that. where you can watch your character beat people with bats and what not...

there was more to being a gangster during prohibition than shooting people. if the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre was incredibly common place, it would likely not be as famous as it is today.

Production chain, distribution, bribes, backroom dealings - all of that supplied the resources and money needed to have an empire or organization to begin with, let alone to try to expand it.



Now, obviously combat and violence happened. Don't get me wrong. It surely did, no doubt there. But I do disagree with the idea that somehow the game is a waste if there's not more violence. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course but like I said, a criminal organization does not get by focusing just on violence. It has to have contacts, connections and relationships that are complex in nature in order to survive or to expand. I can appreciate a game that while I wish there was a few more buildings or activities - I can appreciate a game for focusing more on the business side of things rather than just focusing on who got bloodied in the street.

But to each their own

[Tim]

Originally posted by 1ButtonDash:

I'm enjoying the game, the main focus isn't violence but it is there as you get farther into the game, also you can pick that one perk street brawler if you want and go after the corner gangs. I think they will add more stuff down the road if the game has a lot of support thou, but post like this aren't helping.

Maybe they will. I think what many people are saying is the things added on later down the road should have been in the game from the start. It shouldn't depend on how much support this game gets. I'm 20 hours into a game and I don't get the feeling of running a criminal empire at all. All you have to do is read a book about the era. There was violence and murder all over the place. Right now City of Gangsters doesn't have me feeling much like a gangster at all when I play it. I feel more like a beer distributor.

[rickerts]

yes, murder and violence existed... but it makes it in the books because the author's want the books to sell.

No one wants to hear about how on the 4th of July so and so bought 12 cases of moonshine for whatever amount of $ for 200-300 pages. Whose going to buy that?

again, not trying to discredit the fact or notion that murder and violence played a large role it did... but I believe bribes, deals, etc, played a larger role. no one is going to do business with you if you just whack everyone. and you're not going to get people on your side that often before they try to get rid of you

[Team Triss]

Originally posted by Etack:

Originally posted by 1ButtonDash:

I'm enjoying the game, the main focus isn't violence but it is there as you get farther into the game, also you can pick that one perk street brawler if you want and go after the corner gangs. I think they will add more stuff down the road if the game has a lot of support thou, but post like this aren't helping.

Maybe they will. I think what many people are saying is the things added on later down the road should have been in the game from the start. It shouldn't depend on how much support this game gets. I'm 20 hours into a game and I don't get the feeling of running a criminal empire at all. All you have to do is read a book about the era. There was violence and murder all over the place. Right now City of Gangsters doesn't have me feeling much like a gangster at all when I play it. I feel more like a beer distributor.

All of which was in support of... the goal of making money via distribution and racketeering. Just like the game. You don't like who's in the neighborhood you want to expand in? Go attack him.

If you want a constant violent bloodbath, Empire of Sin is just a few store pages over.

[Zahn]

I think there is a demand for more criminal depth and features.
This game is imho a very good base for an excellent gangster simulation.
The economic part is good and a bit more polishing and features will make it perfect.
But I think additional options and criminal business / actions would add a lot more gameplay and fun elements to the game.

[Milord]

yes but from the word gangster I expected more sincerely prohibition (which I love, in fact it was this that made me buy it) but it only acts as a facade because it could be a normal trading game, to think that it would take little to make it better.
By violence I don't mean shootings, the mafia was scary and terror was not everyone's icon, here you go around make friends "the favors" at the beginning it's okay start from scratch it's a mechanic that is there, I like it, but I would also like to choose a more evil approach I'm always a gangster, then I hate missions that ask me for money, but I'm a benefactor.
play gangster organzed crime then you tell me

[editbayrat]

Here's an interesting piece of gangster history: Yes, Al Capone was a murdering sociopath that ruled through terror, BUT he was also a naturally talented businessman who was a bookkeeper (a successful one) prior to shifting his attention to crime as a career. The Outfit didn't make tons of money because of murder and mayhem, it made tons of money because Al knew his way around a spreadsheet.

[Milord]

if I list all the things you could do in organized crime gangsters you would understand what I mean it would be enough just a remake rosico that a game of 98 is more complex

[Bill.Wolf]

I just made a run when i was asking money from almost everybody in my territory and i killed all the other gangster crews (big and small), the violence is there for you to use as an option, but i'd like too to be able to have an illegal card game business, prostitution, weapons smuggling. About weapon, why did the devs use a 1911 pistol icon for the shotgun?

[Wabi Sabi]

Originally posted by Milord:

This game has wasted potential, as long as they don't add options to act more violently, and with the addition of other illegal activities it will be perfect. I love this era and I'm playing it, I expect a lot from the developers I trust

You're responsible for your own expectations and disappointment. The developers have done a fine job. There is room for improvement, but the game is also great as is.

My biggest fear is that they will cave to the vocal minority and change their vision of the game to make people happy who have the wrong idea of this game's premise.

[Milord]

I never said that I don't like it, it's just that I have perhaps idealized the figure of the boss a little too much in this game, a few illegal activities would be enough, plus a few more options, the era is just a facade could very well be a game on trade.