Across the Obelisk
Bug: Equivalent Exchange mystery Overcharge
Got this card while playing Obelisk Mode.

When I cast it, it acted like it had an Overcharge option, which the card does not indicate at all. Pretty sure this one is supposed to just randomly roll to see how many times it jumps? I want to say I ran into another card that did something similar, that is to say one that says it 'Repeats up to {whatever the number was}' and casting it did not ask for an Overcharge.

Edit: After playing further it's clear that this is just some wierd hidden version of Overcharge, because other cards like Recurring Nightmare have the same issue.

These cards need to say something like 'OC: Repeat 1' instead of 'Repeats up to' with no indication on any tooltip that there is an additional cost for casting them.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:03pm
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Screenshot for reference.

Also, paying 3 overcharge to see what happened did indeed seem to make the card repeat 3 times.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Aug 20, 2022 @ 7:22am
Tsuru Aug 20, 2022 @ 7:26pm 
Repeat X just repeats X number of times.
Repeat UP TO X means it casts once. And you can spend up to X mana to repeat the effect.
A Big Hairy Monster Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:01pm 
Originally posted by Tsuru:
Repeat X just repeats X number of times.
Repeat UP TO X means it casts once. And you can spend up to X mana to repeat the effect.

If it uses the Overcharge mechanic then it should say so. Or at least have something to say to the effect that it actually costs X energy rather than a set number. As it is, such wording is incredible deceptive because nothing on the card implies that you need to spend additional energy on it.

They already have Overcharge for spending more energy on something, so why not just label them with 'OC: Repeat 1'?

Its even more confusing when enemies have the exact same card but theirs automatically hits for the maximum number of times.
Last edited by A Big Hairy Monster; Aug 20, 2022 @ 10:02pm
Tsuru Aug 21, 2022 @ 2:06am 
Originally posted by A Big Hairy Monster:
Originally posted by Tsuru:
Repeat X just repeats X number of times.
Repeat UP TO X means it casts once. And you can spend up to X mana to repeat the effect.

If it uses the Overcharge mechanic then it should say so. Or at least have something to say to the effect that it actually costs X energy rather than a set number. As it is, such wording is incredible deceptive because nothing on the card implies that you need to spend additional energy on it.

They already have Overcharge for spending more energy on something, so why not just label them with 'OC: Repeat 1'?

Its even more confusing when enemies have the exact same card but theirs automatically hits for the maximum number of times.

Overcharge and Repeat up to x are not the same thing.

Overcharge does an effect. And you can overcharge mana to get an addition effect.

Repeat up to X. You get the effect. And you repeat the same effect up to X based on the mana spent.

Also you can right click the card and the tooltip explains this.
Last edited by Tsuru; Aug 21, 2022 @ 2:07am
Stormfox Aug 21, 2022 @ 2:17am 
As an aside: I too think the nomenclature of "repeat up to X" is pretty bad. I have confused them at a glance before, too. It should have its own tag word. How about "Reverberance" or "Echo". Anything that is distinctively different sounding than Repeat.

Alternatively, fold Overcharge and Up to X into one (repeat cards would simply be: "OC: repeat 1") and do the same with Chain and Jump. (Chain is simply Jump with a negative modifier). This would clean up the amount of different-yet-similar abilities.
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Date Posted: Aug 20, 2022 @ 7:20am
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