the current state of Sol Badguy

[Laugnoil]

i think that the actual sol is so weak compare to the original, and half of his kit was taken away only to do combos, bandit revolver is useless if you dont have meter with more recovery and no reward for any of the hits in counter, vortex is slow and travel hald the distance of before, no guard crush on fafnir, punisheable bandit bringer and no charge version, less damage on gun flame with less startup but same recovery being a punish if you are near, there is no safe option if you are near the oponent and you can 6p the fs and hs of sol, the only option is 2s but if they mash you lose, 3f 5k taken away so the 5k dash cancel into 5k dont work anymore and bandit revolver routes are dead, no volcanic viper fast roman cancel in the corner, and the varius nerf to 6p being a insignificant punish tool, jd nerfed so no combo from midscreen to the wall. The only thing that remains is the high damage of certain routes, but all the fun stuff was taken away, but all his tools to aproach the enemy are nerfed just like his combo routes.

i uninstaled the game for that but what do you think, there is another sol main that thinks similary to me?

[Kujou]

I touched him once for the first time recently on a whim and my only impression was "they took out the funny". I have no idea how he was in strive up until this point, but he really is boring and boneless for the historically rough and wild badguy. I don't really understand what they were going for given the toolkit provided (and cut); he has to fight to get in, but what does he do after he does? The biggest worry I have when fighting sol is just tick grabs or him fishing for reversal super after getting meter.

[VanDerSol]

I would agree that most of his "fun" as been taken away.

Instead you get a very streamlined experience revolving around the Fafnir wall bounce that was added. It really is very boring. It's as if they thought giving him a 100% tension meme overdrive would be enough to justify turning him into one of the most bland and straight forward characters now. Sure, he was easy to pick up before, but there was a very high skill ceiling. Now it's just a bland experience.

I still do very well and win most of my matches, but he really has become kinda boring to play. It's so(L) bad that I have started playing other characters more seriously, which is something I thought I would never do. I have been playing this series since Guilty Gear X on the PS2 which is the second GG ever. Been playing Sol a long time. They really did screw with my dude. His DNA is changed. Maybe they will add Side Winder and things could change, but as it is. He's just so different. It hurts.

[Kujou]

Sidewinder would be rad to see back, but I don't think it would really do anything for the problem unless it also came along with like kudakero and some kind of modified riot stamp; Sol needs some funky moves to mix things up if they aren't gonna put his other old tools that are still hanging around to a state where they stand out again.

[RiotStamp]

They turned by boy into Ky
I have never been so insulted in my life.

[WatrWizz]

idk how fun he is but he is definitely not bad. He still has amazing tools he can use.

[OhioWater]

This is awful. Sol players shouldn't have to feel the way everyone else feels while fighting him(Bored). ArcSys get it together.

[Majin_AJ47]

This is no longer Sol Badguy but rather Saul LessThanIdealDude

[Boggers]

Sol badguy is very weak in comparison to what he was before and even in comparison to the other current top/high tiers of the game. Their really isnt anything he does better than any other character and while some may point to his "high damage" there are so many characters in this game that have equal damage output and far better tools with more oppressive offense. If you look at many current tierlists Sol is still rated quite highly but i genuinely think people are just biased because of his previous levels of strength. You're pretty much right with all the points you made. Sol sucks now. Other characters having it worse doesn't make him suck any less.