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Is Potemkin good or no?
Never played this series before. Is he good or no? Kinda wanna play Nagoryuki but i heard he's not good enough yet,
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Aw ♥♥♥♥ here we go again.

Potemkin is fine. He's probably the 4th strongest character in the game at the moment, Thats my own opinion. I don't do tier lists, I'm basing that off my feels after spending alot of time with the entire cast through both beta's. And will probably drop down as the Meta changes and more characters are added in.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Schizm:
Yes, but hes kind of linear and boring to play compared to everyone else in the cast.

In the first Open Beta is was top 3 by most people, in the 2nd beta he was still top 6.

The games smaller stages and lower mobility just benefits a grappler like Potemkin, coupled that with his REALLY strong anti airs and the ability to win games in 1 interaction and you have a character who is explosive.

Look at that, Something we can actually agree on.
Chaz 8. Juni 2021 um 15:45 
Potemkin, like in other games, is an absolute monster at low level play. For beginners his large health pool and high damage counts for a lot. Then if you learn how to consistently pull off the Potemkin Buster you can easily make it to the 6th or 7th floor.

He's likely to start falling off at higher levels as players are better able to predict and avoid him, but even then he's still really dangerous if you make a mistake.

As for Nagoriyuki, I reckon he's actually going to be a lot better than initial impressions made him out to be. In fact apparently it's a lot easier to manage his blood gauge in the launch version than it was in OBT2.
Don't listen to random people on the internet saying Nago or any character isn't good. Just play who you find fun. If you end up coming to the conclusion that you don't like a character then try someone else out. You can do well with anyone.
He's as good as how much time you're willing to invest learning his strengths and weaknesses and playing him to an good degree to understand those things and his match ups. A person who is pretty good with a character that is considered "garbage" will always be better than someone who isn't as practiced or trained with the "top of the tier list" characters.
Short answer "BAD"
Ursprünglich geschrieben von danktuna:
Don't listen to people who are saying that Nagori isn't good.
Woolie, log in. You're not fooling anyone here.

P.S.
Just in case (5:28~):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh8_qiDRyIA&t=328s
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Sin isn't in yet, so for now Pot is SSS tier.
Define good. He is viable and playable. But hes not high tier. Some people consider that bad. And I consider him good yes
Ursprünglich geschrieben von MessiahofMelons:
Define good
Search up and look at "match-up odds" charts against the entire rest of the roster. This is the only correct/proper way to determine if char's "trash", "low", "mid", "high", "god", or "broken".
The ratio is usually being determined by the "10 wins/loses out of 10 matches played in a row" aspect (or 100 out of 100, sometimes), so "5" is the perfect middle and means your character has a 50/50 probability of losing or winning against the opponent's character, regardless of your own or your opponent's level of playing skill. Any fighting video game character that has a ratio below "exactly 5" in the "match-up odds" charts, is already worse-than-average.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von 陳躍文:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von MessiahofMelons:
Define good
Search up and look at "match-up odds" charts against the entire rest of the roster. This is the only correct/proper way to determine if char's "trash", "low", "mid", "high", "god", or "broken".
Only if you care about that. I dont so its not a factor to me. Thats why I asked op.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von MessiahofMelons:
Only if you care about that. I don't so its not a factor to me.
You will start "caring" once you get your ass slapped and trashed hard by literally everyone all over the online and IRL tourneys alike. Sometimes some fighting games might have chars that are just SO BAD that you absolutely cannot win majority of the time with them, no matter how technically "good" you might be as a fighter in overall or how bad/good your opponents are.
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Ursprünglich geschrieben von 陳躍文:
Ursprünglich geschrieben von MessiahofMelons:
Only if you care about that. I don't so its not a factor to me.
You will start "caring" once you get your ass slapped and trashed hard by literally everyone all over the online and IRL tourneys alike. Sometimes some fighting games might have chars that are just SO BAD that you absolutely cannot win majority of the time with them, no matter how technically "good" you might be as a fighter in overall or how bad/good your opponents are.
Ive been getting my ass slapped in fighting games all my life man. Dont tell me how much I care. I will happly play the bad character I like all day. I am not a high level playet, I dont play in tournaments and i dont follow the meta and do the optimal stuff. I am forever blue rank in tekken gettig my ass handed to me while I play Miguel and gigas because I find them fun. Am I playing optimally. Hell no, in fact we have a joke in my friend group about "gigas combo" which is launch into grab for 50 damage. Lower tham an optimal combo, but its easy.

My only goal is to land heavenly potemkin busters. And I will enjoy it in my low rank city. Do not assume we are all high rank, tier list following spikes trying to win all day
Zuletzt bearbeitet von MessiahofMelons; 9. Juni 2021 um 3:20
Shoutouts to FAB.
I have the game on ps4 and have played alotta matches both release and in both betas. I have nowhere near the amount of time to definitively tell you but here is my guestimate two cents.

Tbh I Pot is really solid. He has the typical grappler troubles (multi hit fireballs, zoners, catching fast characters". But he absolutely has good tools to win. Even more so as non-super reversals are throwable in this game. He can quickly turn a match around with a few good reads. Not really part of the best 3 anymore (imo Ram, Sol, and Leo are super good) but he is definitely on the upper half if anything.

Nagori is a bit weaker I think. You have to be really good with meter management to make him work.

Sorry to anyone who doesnt like tier lists or early speculation (I think the game will change alot in the coming month). I play with a couple guys who are pretty good/known in the FGC but still take with the thickest grain of salt.
Ursprünglich geschrieben von MessiahofMelons:
I will happily play a bad character which I liked just because of his/her/it's looks alone. I am not a mid-to-high level player, I don't train for tourneys and I don't utilize meta. My only goal is to land Potёmkin busters. And I'll enjoy it in my low rank city. I hear you, but I'll do things MY way.
Woolie.avi
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