Nerfing Potemkin made me have no reason to buy this game

[Froz7y]

I dont understand why big cool characters have to be trash. You could have made him mid tier but instead made him broken on beta and then nerf him so hard till he is trash. I never got to try him at his best but now im not buying the game.

[toanmap99]

IF ANYTHING, Pot got major advantage in this game due to various reason. The 1st thing is the screen is smaller now. In Xrd, both Slayer and Pot got nerf hard due to the screen stretching out so much that their range came from long range to only far mid range. Pot in this game is LITERALLY right next to you at the round start. Not to mention, the active frame for Flick fireball counter was easier compare to last game. Also, like Pot, most of the other character and his counter also lost crucial tools to keep him at bay. I mean, right now Millia is Pot's favored matchup due to her lost of Secret Garden and Pin.

[JLQ]

If Potemkin doesn't instantly blue screen he enemy when they get hit i'm not buying.

[February]

引用自 Shizuma：

Such a weird reason not to buy the game.

Well, I mean if you main grapplers and there's a single one in the newest installment of your beloved franchise, not to mention OP claims he's already been nerfed to the ground... I wouldn't buy the game either in his place, lol.

[Majestic]

引用自 Schizm：

The old gatling system did not make damage high... IT allowed for more options in pressure and more unique combos, the newer gattling system allows for more damage because moves don't scale as much as they did with the older system.

Obviously, You've never had you HF get guarded or IB'd by.. well lets just say a vast majority of of Xrd and +R's Cast. Slayer and Jam mostly come to mind. Old Gatling "WILL" put you into a knock down. Which means free Oki. Which means you're getting on the struggle Bus if you're playing Pot unless you have Meter for his Super Reversal or a Burst. The worst you'll get in Strive is pushed back by Jab. As far as I know, There's only like two Characters that can Hard punish HF in strive. That being Gio and I-no. (Though I could be wrong. I'd didn't get to see many 5K punishes in Beta2, And if some one does know for sure. please Elaborate, Because I'm genuinely interested to know.)

引用自 Schizm：

You so thoroughly don't know what your talking about its astonishing. +R and XRD pot where all about scorind hard knock downs and applying pressure through HFB and good okizeme. He so not fundamentally more or less the same you don't know what your talking about...

Dear god man, I wish you'd actually put two and two together. Hey you know how score big knockdowns with Pot in Xrd and +R? Walling people out with your big buttons, Good Anti-airs and Command Grabs. Which.. You'd guessed it. leads into Knock downs, Counter hits and eventually -OKI. If I just blew your mind, My bad. Who knew that with a Character, That is traditionally slow and has no Airdash. You would "Mostly" focus on walking forward and playing defensively, With big dumb buttons. Until you score a AA, Counter hit or knockdown so you can HFB and put on pressure.

Look man, I get it. You're probably the only mid-highish player in your Area. Maybe you
watched a few too many of Jiyuna's streams/Vods or something and you think you know everything about every character in GG and you're not used to being wrong. Its okay. Or maybe you're right, and semi-Consistent wins I've scored in XX/AC, +R and Xrd over all these years have been a fluke with the way I play Potemkin. Either way man. You don't have to Agree with me. We can agree to disagree and keep it at that. Like adults.

I just trust that all the bystanders that suffered through reading will do their own fact checking. and you can go back to... Playing Ramlethal or whatever. Are you a Ram main? You seem like a Ram main.

As for me. I'll keep on keeping. Drinking the Salty tears of people when I counter hit them into 2HS > heat knuckle RC (Then block Cause you know they're gonna burst.) into HPB, Or another HK depending on meter.

P.S: ♥♥♥♥ May mains, Ya'll are the devil and you know it.

[Shizuma]

引用自 February：

引用自 Shizuma：

Such a weird reason not to buy the game.

Well, I mean if you main grapplers and there's a single one in the newest installment of your beloved franchise, not to mention OP claims he's already been nerfed to the ground... I wouldn't buy the game either in his place, lol.

Still weird, honestly. People now only think about instant wins, they want to raise their stats for some silly reason and if a character they like isn't top tier, then they just stop playing. Noone here wants to win evo2k1 on GGST.
If you dedicate yourself enough to a character results will follow. I do understand the reasons behind a top world player who make the choice dropping the char he likes the most to another in order to be more successfull, but from a casual point of view it makes no sense.

[Majestic]

Trust me the Pot nerfs where needed. There's no reason those moves should have been as good as they had been in beta1. And thats coming from a Pot Main.

I think Potemkin is right where he needs to be. And He's STILL better then alot of the cast in my own opinion. at least this early in as Grapplers have a habit of dropping down the tier list as the meta Progresses. I don't see this being any different in the long run.

[toanmap99]

引用自 ᅚPointless：

Trust me the Pot nerfs where needed. There's no reason those moves should have been as good as they had been in beta1. And thats coming from a Pot Main.

I think Potemkin is right where he needs to be. And He's STILL better then alot of the cast in my own opinion. at least this early in as Grapplers have a habit of dropping down the tier list as the meta Progresses. I don't see this being any different in the long run.

The screen crunch and Garuda Impact helps Pot a lot in this game.

[Majestic]

I won't disagree with you on that.

[Schizm]

引用自 Shakeandbake：

引用自 ᅚPointless：

Oh so you mean like how Potemkin plays in Xrd and +R? Wall people out with big buttons, Walk them into a corner and Punish bad choices with PB or counter hit into HK setup. The only thing that makes him that much more "Different" in strive is because of Gatling changes and wall breaks. And of course you don't get much off his 6P AA this time around. I'll admit he's abit /Off/ But fundamentally he's more or less almost the same. Hence adding him into my list of four.



Correct! It doesn't. It doesn't need frame one armor. Strive is a slower game that trades of over all speed for Damage. And it -should- only be used to beat out Mid ranged attacks and big single hits. But lets be honest. HB has always been risky to use in any GG unless you got a read or you're using Break to close the distance. Unless you got the meter to PRC and create a 50/50. Why would you ever use HF at close range in any GG anyways? when there's better options. (Kara Potbuster),(2P and ect).

As for the rest? Eh, Its a moot point because it still holds true to what I said. I still stand by saying its better then its ever been. I'll take the whole Not having armor on frame one and only really getting punished if I make an judgmental error, by Jabs and certain characters Kicks. Over HF and getting blown the ♥♥♥♥ up and losing almost half a HP bar because of the old gatling system.

I'll atleast admit that +R Pot is still the best pot. But thats because everything in +R is broken in general.

THANK YOU! LEARN YOUR OPTIONS PEOPLE! LESS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MORE LEARNING!

I genuinely think people like you are mentally handicapped you have to be. Everything you and pointless has spouted has been objectively incorrect. But fake GG fans who don't play the game are like this.

That moron pointless is still talking about the old gatling system as if it facilitated high damage punishes compared to strive. He and you don't know what they are talking about and is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ transparent.

[kerwell]

good.

[Pnume]

Obvious bait but Grapplers are cancer. They belong in D tier.

[Shakeandbake]

引用自 Shakeandbake：

引用自 Titan：

Could be strong. Could be not. Probably isn't. People always massively overreact to grapplers when a game is first coming out before realising they actually suck.

As someone whose played the beta and fought along side and talked with a lot of Pot mains. Hes right up there with May in top tier. The nerf was primarily to his 6P. which was was to strong and spammable. About as fast as a guile punch. Which in a game with as high damage output as Strive is absurd. His armor is still much better than was in Xrd. The problem in that game (Xrd) is that he had nothing and I mean literally nothing was worth respecting. His armor was garbage and to many starting frames on anything so your opponent has more than enough time to react. All of the issues disappeared in Strive. Op is just made becuase he can't adapt to changes.

The nerf was

1

SINGLE

BUTTON.

The man can still 2 shot you and he has options for days. Don't listen to scrubs.

引用自 Schizm：

引用自 Shakeandbake：

THANK YOU! LEARN YOUR OPTIONS PEOPLE! LESS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MORE LEARNING!

I genuinely think people like you are mentally handicapped you have to be. Everything you and pointless has spouted has been objectively incorrect. But fake GG fans who don't play the game are like this.

That moron pointless is still talking about the old gatling system as if it facilitated high damage punishes compared to strive. He and you don't know what they are talking about and is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ transparent.

We're not incorrect, you're just bad at the game. I've been playing GG since Xrd -sign- on ps3. I've met tons of scrubs like you who think they can just mash buttons in the middle of gattling and act frustrated when I know how to react. And you wanna talk about fake fans of GG lets start with some of the stupid stuff you been saying this entire time. What on earth is fake pressure? Do you mean unsafe moves, whiffing maybe? There is no such thing a fake pressure in fighting games. You've already told us that your not willing to adapt to changes because "its always been that way." Just becuase Hammer fall had a frame 1 armor doesn't mean its going to help you in every situation nor does it make it good. HF was always first and foremost a gap closer, not something you can just pull out in the middle of qoute: "fake pressure". If an opponent sees it coming your opting to use a move that is so negative on block you might as well throw away the controller and eat a touch of death combo (this is especially true in +R. Testament anyone?). Now you have to time your moves as a counter to punishing someone's unsafe option and like before its still cancel-able. People like you go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when Zangrief loses some old traits to his move in place of new ones instead of understanding why, and taking the changes to your advantage. You just ♥♥♥♥♥ to high heaven and say a game is trash even through you refuse to learn. Do go on talking about people being "handicapped" when changes throw you into a fit. Stay mad scrub.

[Chris]

"won't buy because character x"
lmao at this board

[Zap]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. You're dumb as hell OP. If we let mfs like you balance the game the game would literally be dead day 1.

[Shakeandbake]

引用自 ᅚPointless：

(Though I could be wrong. I'd didn't get to see many 5K punishes in Beta2, And if some one does know for sure. please Elaborate, Because I'm genuinely interested to know.)

Me and a friend are going to be experimenting a lot on Strive we'll let you know if certain 5k punishes work or not.

P.S: ♥♥♥♥ May mains, Ya'll are the devil and you know it.

*clears throat* ...Totsugeki.