GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE-

GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE-

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DudePong 2021 年 10 月 9 日 下午 5:25
Anyone else think this game got boring fast?
Not saying that this game is definitively boring or bad or something, it has amazing visuals and such but for me I feel like there's little room to express player creativity with characters. It feels like when I'm playing Axl or Potemkin, there's just one way I can play and that's it, I'm either completely dominating by effectively playing my character's archetype or struggling to get out of the corner to reset to neutral. I know that's how characters are supposed to be but there doesn't feel like there's a lot of depth to any of these characters. Admittedly, I did come from DBFZ to this game but I definitely wouldn't have minded putting in the extra hours of training into this game if it meant more depth and player expression. :fourstarball:
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DudePong 2021 年 10 月 10 日 下午 5:53 
引用自 Wiseoldman
You have 37 hours in strive... I somehow doubt you formed this opinion of your own. Go form an actual opinion instead of literally repeating what you read on twitter.
I would play the game more if it didn't get boring so fast lol. I have 1000+ hours in DBFZ lol. BTW, although the amount of hours you have in a game can validate your opinion more, it doesn't mean that if you're unhappy with a game, that it's an issue with yourself just because you haven't "played it enough".
最後修改者:DudePong; 2021 年 10 月 10 日 下午 5:55
Neifirst 2021 年 10 月 10 日 下午 7:21 
My favourite character isn't in the game yet so I'm just bored waiting for that. I imagine I'm not the only one.. so I bet this game will really pick up once it gets a big cast and they put the base game on discount.
Enju 2021 年 10 月 11 日 下午 3:26 
Well yea, you're picking Axl, who's entire gameplan is to keep people out and annoy them to death, or Pot who's an I win character at round start. Of course you're going to find it boring compared to spazzing out in Fighters and watching everyone zip around like they're on crack.

At least Axl changed somewhat with One Vision combos not being useless anymore. If you wanted player creativity or what not, should just go with Millia or Chipp. They have no hp but they're more creative in what you can do aside from the usual route.

Pretty sure 'player expression' goes out the window once you start killing characters from a single mistake and watching the entire game go down into the toilet afterward.
最後修改者:Enju; 2021 年 10 月 11 日 下午 3:35
MidnightMarvel 2021 年 10 月 11 日 下午 6:17 
引用自 Bruh
Not saying that this game is definitively boring or bad or something, it has amazing visuals and such but for me I feel like there's little room to express player creativity with characters. It feels like when I'm playing Axl or Potemkin, there's just one way I can play and that's it, I'm either completely dominating by effectively playing my character's archetype or struggling to get out of the corner to reset to neutral. I know that's how characters are supposed to be but there doesn't feel like there's a lot of depth to any of these characters. Admittedly, I did come from DBFZ to this game but I definitely wouldn't have minded putting in the extra hours of training into this game if it meant more depth and player expression. :fourstarball:


You literally haven't played enough of the game to formulate this opinion. You probably read this on twitter from a pro player, or watched a youtube video with a pro claiming this. This is false on many levels. I guarentee you haven't even scratched the surface of high level competitive play. And if you have, you probably aren't that good if you play the game with the "same style as everyone else" as that means you're flow charting. Flow charting is what will hold you back from actually being good.

Lets be honest here... You just aren't that good and that frustrates you.

Signed,

someone who is far better than you at this game and disagrees with you.
Xao 2021 年 10 月 12 日 上午 12:10 
Yeah, that's about accurate. Don't bother listening to the blowhards here on the forums, they're in hard denial. "i'M bEtTeR tHaN yOu" isn't a valid argument regarding balance or design, and they use that fallacious argument because they've got nothing valid to support their conclusions.

Strive gutted a ton of moves and mechanics, and it's left most characters in a state where there's only one way to play them, only one or two combo paths, and mixes, tech, etc, tends to be either locked behind meter, or super execution heavy and probably not intended (ergo don't get used to it, it's hard to do and probably going to get nerfed).

Each character has a handful of tools, and those tools tend to be really strong, but if you wish to play a character in a way that's a bit different than what those tools allow... Well, I hope you're playing Sol or maybe Leo, but even Leo got stuff that was pretty key to his kit stripped from him.

To put it how Max did back in the beta, Sol is one of the only characters in the game that gets to "have fun," or in other words, gets to play Guilty Gear.
最後修改者:Xao; 2021 年 10 月 12 日 上午 12:12
DirtyDan 2021 年 10 月 12 日 上午 4:14 
I was never bored so fast with a fighting game, even mortal kombat 11 lasted longer for me than this game.

It's just eye candy with a rotten core, gutted characters , easy and strong offensive with no defensive options.

If you played against one sol , ramenthal, gio , nago ... you have the feeling that you play the same person over and over again there is no diversity.

I still come back because Faust is still a little unique and fun. But the long loading times and not working online is slowly killing it for me.
HGhaleon 2021 年 10 月 13 日 下午 9:26 
I got bored of this game in 3 days. There's hardly any meat on it. Hopefully in the future it comes back to its roots and transforms back into real Guilty Gear. The only game in the series that this game is better than is the OG Guilty Gear 1. I rather play Guilty Gear Isuka than this game. I burned this game into the ground first week and got roasted for it on social media. Glad to see some people don't see this game as the savior of the Guilty Gear series. Go play Melty Blood Type Lumina. At least you can express yourself a lot more in that game.
Gigadesu! (已封鎖) 2021 年 10 月 13 日 下午 10:25 
Gimme Grimoire mode from BBCF
Cavs 2021 年 10 月 14 日 上午 6:09 
Good thing I didnt buy the game w4as about to buy it day 1
DudePong 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 12:02 
引用自 MidnightMarvel
引用自 Bruh
Not saying that this game is definitively boring or bad or something, it has amazing visuals and such but for me I feel like there's little room to express player creativity with characters. It feels like when I'm playing Axl or Potemkin, there's just one way I can play and that's it, I'm either completely dominating by effectively playing my character's archetype or struggling to get out of the corner to reset to neutral. I know that's how characters are supposed to be but there doesn't feel like there's a lot of depth to any of these characters. Admittedly, I did come from DBFZ to this game but I definitely wouldn't have minded putting in the extra hours of training into this game if it meant more depth and player expression. :fourstarball:


You literally haven't played enough of the game to formulate this opinion. You probably read this on twitter from a pro player, or watched a youtube video with a pro claiming this. This is false on many levels. I guarentee you haven't even scratched the surface of high level competitive play. And if you have, you probably aren't that good if you play the game with the "same style as everyone else" as that means you're flow charting. Flow charting is what will hold you back from actually being good.

Lets be honest here... You just aren't that good and that frustrates you.

Signed,

someone who is far better than you at this game and disagrees with you.
If pro players are saying something like what I'm saying, wouldn't that invalidate your opinion because they are someone who is far better than you? That's such a stupid way of thinking about it. The opinions of all players matter because they make up the community of the game. I'm just sharing what I thought my gameplay experience was. :fourstarball:
Gabe Ate My Zombies 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 12:17 
引用自 Bruh
引用自 MidnightMarvel


You literally haven't played enough of the game to formulate this opinion. You probably read this on twitter from a pro player, or watched a youtube video with a pro claiming this. This is false on many levels. I guarentee you haven't even scratched the surface of high level competitive play. And if you have, you probably aren't that good if you play the game with the "same style as everyone else" as that means you're flow charting. Flow charting is what will hold you back from actually being good.

Lets be honest here... You just aren't that good and that frustrates you.

Signed,

someone who is far better than you at this game and disagrees with you.
If pro players are saying something like what I'm saying, wouldn't that invalidate your opinion because they are someone who is far better than you? That's such a stupid way of thinking about it. The opinions of all players matter because they make up the community of the game. I'm just sharing what I thought my gameplay experience was. :fourstarball:
I'm not taking his side here on your skill level, he's being a right ♥♥♥♥.

However, I want to point out that pro player opinions are not to be taken as gospel and for every opinion you find you will most certainly find an equal or greater number of entirely opposite opinions. These opinions have the potential to be (and often are) wrong. For example: everyone said Inkling in Smash Bros would be S tier. Now she's not even top 5.

Wanna also say that anyone who just out and out says your opinion is invalid because "ur not gud at the gaem tho lol" is making their argument look pretty shaky if they have to pad it out instead of holding a discussion like a normal human being.

I'm Floor 10, never been in Celestial. Been playing fighting games since 2005. Eat me, you dorks who seem to think that anyone has ever given a ♥♥♥♥ about online rankings, and shame on you.
DudePong 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 1:12 
引用自 Gabe Ate My Zombies
引用自 Bruh
If pro players are saying something like what I'm saying, wouldn't that invalidate your opinion because they are someone who is far better than you? That's such a stupid way of thinking about it. The opinions of all players matter because they make up the community of the game. I'm just sharing what I thought my gameplay experience was. :fourstarball:
I'm not taking his side here on your skill level, he's being a right ♥♥♥♥.

However, I want to point out that pro player opinions are not to be taken as gospel and for every opinion you find you will most certainly find an equal or greater number of entirely opposite opinions. These opinions have the potential to be (and often are) wrong. For example: everyone said Inkling in Smash Bros would be S tier. Now she's not even top 5.

Wanna also say that anyone who just out and out says your opinion is invalid because "ur not gud at the gaem tho lol" is making their argument look pretty shaky if they have to pad it out instead of holding a discussion like a normal human being.

I'm Floor 10, never been in Celestial. Been playing fighting games since 2005. Eat me, you dorks who seem to think that anyone has ever given a ♥♥♥♥ about online rankings, and shame on you.
Agreed.
Xao 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 8:28 
引用自 Bruh
If pro players are saying something like what I'm saying, wouldn't that invalidate your opinion because they are someone who is far better than you? That's such a stupid way of thinking about it. The opinions of all players matter because they make up the community of the game. I'm just sharing what I thought my gameplay experience was. :fourstarball:
Let me tell you a secret about the FGC: They only worship skill because it's an easy way to dismiss legitimate criticism. The moment some pro player disagrees with them, they immediately drop the appeal to authority fallacy and argue the opposite.

It's all bias confirmation and no analytical or critical thinking here.
Coolprit 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 11:39 
引用自 HGhaleon
Go play Melty Blood Type Lumina. At least you can express yourself a lot more in that game.
Gotta agree with that.
Voidlines 2021 年 10 月 16 日 上午 11:42 
引用自 Gabe Ate My Zombies
引用自 Bruh
If pro players are saying something like what I'm saying, wouldn't that invalidate your opinion because they are someone who is far better than you? That's such a stupid way of thinking about it. The opinions of all players matter because they make up the community of the game. I'm just sharing what I thought my gameplay experience was. :fourstarball:
I'm not taking his side here on your skill level, he's being a right ♥♥♥♥.

However, I want to point out that pro player opinions are not to be taken as gospel and for every opinion you find you will most certainly find an equal or greater number of entirely opposite opinions. These opinions have the potential to be (and often are) wrong. For example: everyone said Inkling in Smash Bros would be S tier. Now she's not even top 5.

Wanna also say that anyone who just out and out says your opinion is invalid because "ur not gud at the gaem tho lol" is making their argument look pretty shaky if they have to pad it out instead of holding a discussion like a normal human being.

I'm Floor 10, never been in Celestial. Been playing fighting games since 2005. Eat me, you dorks who seem to think that anyone has ever given a ♥♥♥♥ about online rankings, and shame on you.

Now this is the best thing I've read on this forum all week
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