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Atma 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 10:23
Why is May considered dominant?
So I've played May in Xrd and only met a couple May mains like me. In Strive there's a lot of Pirate girls though and she's considered Op by some people, but why is that?
The only major change about her is losing dolphin summons (and losing her nice oki with that), most of the other things work very similarly to Xrd. Mr. Dolphin attacks are also almost the same, but now everyone is whining about them. Sure it can be annoying to be poked by Totsugeki, but it's not like strings with it do a lot of damage. Now, I'm only an 8-9 floor scrub and don't know a lot things, but when I see Ramlethal Unga Bungaing me in the corner, or Sol taking half of my bar on meterless midscreen combo, I realize that May doesn't have nearly as much damage and pressure, so why is she hated?
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Pecsi 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 10:27 
Plus on block because of totsugeki and wide range anti air attacks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0PXo41Sojs
最后由 Pecsi 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 10:27
xep 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 10:30 
I don't know if May's considered dominant, but I do believe that Strive has many new players who may be new to the series or just fighting games in general. Look at the other posts on this forum.

Considering how new Strive is I doubt we even have an inkling of what the game's balance is like until we've given it a few more months, and even then. If I have a difficult time fighting May because of how I play, then if asked I'm going to say that she's strong. That's probably what all of this is right now.
Pecsi 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 10:35 
No but talking seriously.
The huge damage characters recive now compared to xrd makes may hits and pressure combo with dolphin more usable and because of that annoying. in xrd or previous games wasn't the case because the damage and pacing wasn't that faster and there was no wall break which may users tend to use a lot. that's why, you need to change their pace to confuse them.
Valentine (Lunaticus) 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 11:13 
For me I find Sol and Gio to be the worst match ups, after that Millia and Chip with their insane side switching or just super fast attacks and that damn 2K. The only thing that really bothers me about Ram anymore is her insane damage reversal super, but I'm starting to get better at expecting it. Still feels like it should do like half the damage it does now.

As for May it's not the dolphin, it's the anchor that makes her annoying. I think by now people have actually gotten used to the dolphins and how you can prevent the spam by throwing some pre-emptive attacks and watch how she smashes her face into your foot (or whatever your using).

I haven't even met a dolphin spammer in a long time, May players themselves seem to have realized that people don't let them get away with it anymore. But I dunno, maybe it's still very prevalent in lower floors.
Rook 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 11:14 
May's Mr. Dolphin has two versions: Slash and Heavy Slash. The Slash version is the one that gives people trouble due to its fast startup. HOwever she's actually minus on block after the Slash version, so if she spams it you can interrupt her.

The Heavy Slash version has slower startup, but is plus on block. Learn the difference between them and remember she's minus after the fast Slash version and plus after the slow Heavy Slash version. Use 6P or another move if you react to the Heavy Slash version.
Kenpachi 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 11:32 
May is good but nowhere near Sol and Ram level of broken.
Unrighteous 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 11:37 
She's really good and a scrub killer. If you don't know what to do against dolphin spam, she's completely invincible. Her air normals are some of the best in the game, she has two really good supers, great mobility, a command grab, a projectile, and her damage is still great even if it's not at Sol levels.
JayJax 2021 年 7 月 4 日 上午 11:57 
While she doesn't deal Sol levels of damage, she doesn't take anywhere near the risk. Throwing out half screen Totsugeki that's plus on block and leads to pressure is absurd. She gets all of the pressure/plus frames of a rushdown character, but none of the risk. Every tier list I have ever seen has her in top 3 free.
🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 12:39 
引用自 JayJax
While she doesn't deal Sol levels of damage ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lld3E_MnU5c
最后由 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 12:41
Valentine (Lunaticus) 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 1:23 
引用自 JayJax
While she doesn't deal Sol levels of damage ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lld3E_MnU5c
Doesn't everyone do a lot of damage with Dust though? It does look pretty high, but maybe that's just Axl's small health making it seem like more than it is.
最后由 Valentine (Lunaticus) 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 1:23
🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:48 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lld3E_MnU5c
Doesn't everyone do a lot of damage with Dust though? It does look pretty high, but maybe that's just Axl's small health making it seem like more than it is.

Its likely slightly higher then norm its prob doing 230ish+ on axel who has ~480 health.But yeah any dust, tension use, or wall is likely going to get you 180-300 dmg across the board (and effective hp ranges from 440-590).

Same reason the entire cast can "2 combo to death" off a full tension bar and wall breaks (only character I havent seen it on is faust and its coming).

Still this is alot more representative then the % or tod you combos you seen thrown around on low hp character with counter hits and or 50-100% risc.
最后由 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:53
Constantine 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 2:54 
For me I find Sol and Gio to be the worst match ups, after that Millia and Chip with their insane side switching or just super fast attacks and that damn 2K. The only thing that really bothers me about Ram anymore is her insane damage reversal super, but I'm starting to get better at expecting it. Still feels like it should do like half the damage it does now.

As for May it's not the dolphin, it's the anchor that makes her annoying. I think by now people have actually gotten used to the dolphins and how you can prevent the spam by throwing some pre-emptive attacks and watch how she smashes her face into your foot (or whatever your using).

I haven't even met a dolphin spammer in a long time, May players themselves seem to have realized that people don't let them get away with it anymore. But I dunno, maybe it's still very prevalent in lower floors.
I think the only people willing to spam with May are people who aren't playing with a pad. That ♥♥♥♥ hurts your thumb after a while.
DontEatSmurfs 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 3:36 
what i use to beat mays dolphin ( lets say she is spamming it because at higher ranks this dont happen as much )
im always defending crouching against that
while defending i try to stuff 2S and spam P, if its the fast dolphin you will keep defending and if its the slow one your P will stop that move, granted your oponent might see that on the first or two times you do that and changes strategy so dont take it as THE SOLUTION, is just what i use to stop the barrage of incomming dolphins, if you dont challenge she will never stops and if you show that you know how to stop it she will have to change or die from poke dmg, i would say that may has amazing buttons, she can change the strategy to neutral just fine and she will still be horrifying to play against, her JHS and JS are amazing buttons and her QCF HS is really good and easy to do on reaction so if you are seeing a may thats not trying to run - grab and RC you to death you might have one waiting for that juicy special near the wall
最后由 DontEatSmurfs 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 3:40
Vassago Rain 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 8:01 
Bunch of people won't know how to deal with dolphins.
0000 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 9:20 
Arguably semi safe dolphin (usually the higher level they use it for defensive tools), good buttons, fast jump, decent projectile, good conversion dmg. The only they struggle is side switch character.
最后由 0000 编辑于; 2021 年 7 月 4 日 下午 9:22
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