zato is the biggest coward of a fighter

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Let's give someone complete impunity to fly around the map, reflect peoples attacks and have full control of mid, nothing will go wrong they said.

[Xao]

Originally posted by Clamper:

Baby's first fighting game lol

Zato/Eddie actually has a history of being top tier in older Guilty Gear games.

I'm getting a distinct sense that Zato is very much at the top again in Strive, people just haven't figured it out yet because he's harder to use than any other character in the game.

[Wakipai Pero #PLAYGG]

Originally posted by Constantine:

Originally posted by Jeaton:

if you're a baby lol

Most people will never be good at fighting games even if they put in a lot of work, and It's not like fighting games are something to take pride in. You're essentially circlejerking over who is better at playing with their toys. There's nothing wrong with playing or doing something else.

That's not true. One of the best, if not the best Faust player was horrible at fighting games. He got to where he is through sheer hard work and dedication.

[merkyofayceMF]

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

I hope you aren't one of the people I played a little bit ago, those were good games.

But anyways Zato isn't even top 5. Just bonk Eddie if Zato doesn't cover him. Zato is pretty useless without Eddie out. Also without hard knockdown or meter use Zato has no safe ways to summon Eddie within your range. You can literally hit Eddie before he can even act.

For reference:
Pierce - The ground attack where Eddie stabs forward twice
Leap - The frog attack that leaps in the air
Oppose - The snake stance thing where Eddie is immune to attacks
Drills - Just that, Eddie summons drills.

The common setup is for Zato to either 5s or 2s into pierce summon to start pressure, the thing most people don't know is, that isn't a true block string. If Zato is consistently summoning after 5s or 2s, just mash 2p. You'll kill Eddie before pierce happens.

Also people respect Eddie pressure waaay more than they should. For example: the two hits of pierce aren't a true block string either. You can just 2p Eddie after the first hit, if Zato doesn't cover the gap. The frog leap also looses to most character's 6p and any attack that hits the frog before the frog reaches your hitbox. Drills can't be contested but also leave Eddie stuck in place and kill 50% meter, so just respect it. Basically don't be afraid to contest Eddie, he looses to most challenges... unless it's oppose... don't contest oppose.

Once Eddie is gone, go in. Zato has awful defensive options, all he can do really is attempt to fly away or mash jabs. Way too many people let Zato just chill while Eddie recovers. When Eddie is down, that's your turn, Push him.

Zato has ways around this stuff of course, but its good "anti Zato 101" stuff to know.

pierce isn't good to start pressure. drills is a little faster startup and you get more things to lock your opponent down with. plus sweep to eddie summon and place eddie behind to start drills can be really oppressive because faultless still keeps you locked down. you just have to burst out or get counterhit lol.

that's not even counting baiting with drills and using shield to place eddie behind. he's practically invincible if you push him with shield and then you can use drills to push the opponent back toward zato. if you try to jump forward, zato can just 6a burst and you're eating a full combo

[Houseki Yarisuke]

Some gate keeping scumbags up in here

[Inuakurei]

Originally posted by merkyofayceMF:

Originally posted by Inuakurei:

I hope you aren't one of the people I played a little bit ago, those were good games.

But anyways Zato isn't even top 5. Just bonk Eddie if Zato doesn't cover him. Zato is pretty useless without Eddie out. Also without hard knockdown or meter use Zato has no safe ways to summon Eddie within your range. You can literally hit Eddie before he can even act.

For reference:
Pierce - The ground attack where Eddie stabs forward twice
Leap - The frog attack that leaps in the air
Oppose - The snake stance thing where Eddie is immune to attacks
Drills - Just that, Eddie summons drills.

The common setup is for Zato to either 5s or 2s into pierce summon to start pressure, the thing most people don't know is, that isn't a true block string. If Zato is consistently summoning after 5s or 2s, just mash 2p. You'll kill Eddie before pierce happens.

Also people respect Eddie pressure waaay more than they should. For example: the two hits of pierce aren't a true block string either. You can just 2p Eddie after the first hit, if Zato doesn't cover the gap. The frog leap also looses to most character's 6p and any attack that hits the frog before the frog reaches your hitbox. Drills can't be contested but also leave Eddie stuck in place and kill 50% meter, so just respect it. Basically don't be afraid to contest Eddie, he looses to most challenges... unless it's oppose... don't contest oppose.

Once Eddie is gone, go in. Zato has awful defensive options, all he can do really is attempt to fly away or mash jabs. Way too many people let Zato just chill while Eddie recovers. When Eddie is down, that's your turn, Push him.

Zato has ways around this stuff of course, but its good "anti Zato 101" stuff to know.

pierce isn't good to start pressure. drills is a little faster startup and you get more things to lock your opponent down with. plus sweep to eddie summon and place eddie behind to start drills can be really oppressive because faultless still keeps you locked down. you just have to burst out or get counterhit lol.

that's not even counting baiting with drills and using shield to place eddie behind. he's practically invincible if you push him with shield and then you can use drills to push the opponent back toward zato. if you try to jump forward, zato can just 6a burst and you're eating a full combo

Well yea. I'm just giving some basic 101 anti Zato stuff. Obviously there's more to Zato pressure than just 5s > 236p, but its the basic thing you'll see most Zatos do. I can't go into every Zato situation, otherwise the post would be a novel.

[HeisenBurger]

yrc

[Jeaton]

Originally posted by Xao:

Originally posted by Clamper:

Baby's first fighting game lol

Zato/Eddie actually has a history of being top tier in older Guilty Gear games.

I'm getting a distinct sense that Zato is very much at the top again in Strive, people just haven't figured it out yet because he's harder to use than any other character in the game.

no he doesn't, but he is definitely up there in Strive

[Xao]

Originally posted by Jeaton:

Originally posted by Xao:

Zato/Eddie actually has a history of being top tier in older Guilty Gear games.

I'm getting a distinct sense that Zato is very much at the top again in Strive, people just haven't figured it out yet because he's harder to use than any other character in the game.

no he doesn't, but he is definitely up there in Strive

Search engines are your friend.

[Keno]

It's depend on player rank. But at highest rank, I'm quite certain he's never be on top tier since his tech is not about reflex but know how.

[doctor sexo]

He's good but the matchup isn't that hard to figure out lol, also Zato players rn suck for the most part, the real ones are lab monsters waiting to hop online when they discover all his insane tech

[Valentine (Lunaticus)]

It'd be good to know what floor you're on as a start. From the little experience I have of Zato I'd say just try to kill Eddie, any single hit does it. Doesn't matter if you trade, if you remove Eddie you've probably won that interaction. Also I think Roman Cancels' hitbox should also kill Eddie making Yellow Roman Cancel excellent against him.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

[PopetheRevXXVIII]

Git Gud

[Legendary Girl A]

Originally posted by Corey:

...who is "Zabato"???

[Jeaton]

Originally posted by Xao:

Originally posted by Jeaton:

no he doesn't, but he is definitely up there in Strive

Search engines are your friend.

??? have you tried using a search engine
if you check right now he's high at best for +R and low for Xrd
unless you're getting your tiers from a crummy tiermaker google image I don't know where you're pulling this ♥♥♥♥ from

the only place I can find Zato being a top tier is an outdated version of XX

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Originally posted by Legendary Girl A:

Originally posted by Corey:

...who is "Zabato"???

Robo-Zato?