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DRUNK_CANADIAN Dec 11, 2020 @ 7:18pm
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Has Denuvo.
Looks like you don't want my money again. 10/10 Devs/publishers.
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Zeus Dec 11, 2020 @ 7:40pm 
they dont want your money
Zeus Dec 11, 2020 @ 7:40pm 
can i have your money
koinzell Dec 12, 2020 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Zeus:
can i have your money


was going to give mine to atlus/sega, since they rejected it using this Denuvo Malware,
i decided to give my money to something else that has no-denuvo.

at least i don't have to worry about reducing & handi-capping my game-play quality.
error780 Dec 12, 2020 @ 4:44am 
Strangely enough Sega only ditches Denuvo after a time on selected titles. They did it with Yakuza but not with Total War, maybe Persona will follow the first path. We'll see

In the meantime: DENUVO = NOT BUY for me too
koczwy Dec 12, 2020 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by koinzell:
Originally posted by Zeus:
can i have your money


was going to give mine to atlus/sega, since they rejected it using this Denuvo Malware,
i decided to give my money to something else that has no-denuvo.

at least i don't have to worry about reducing & handi-capping my game-play quality.
I don't have denuvo, do you want to give your money to me?
mdesaleah Dec 12, 2020 @ 7:19am 
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They dont need your money ;)

P4G sold well enough without it
Curious Mercurius Dec 12, 2020 @ 8:33am 
When will the bloody suits finally understand that DRM helps literally nobody and only inflates the development cost of the game?
DRUNK_CANADIAN Dec 13, 2020 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Error780:
Strangely enough Sega only ditches Denuvo after a time on selected titles. They did it with Yakuza but not with Total War, maybe Persona will follow the first path. We'll see

In the meantime: DENUVO = NOT BUY for me too

Ya sadly it hasn't happened on the previous persona release. So sadly neither of them will get my money.I don't get why they don't patch it out down the line. I'd actually be ok with time Denuvo because I'm all for compromise, but lets be real this will be cracked shortly after launch and yet Denuvo will likely sit in it for it's life leaving paying consumers with an inferior copy.
OrangeBear Dec 14, 2020 @ 4:01am 
I don't get what is so bad about denuvo... can someone please explain?
King in Yellow Dec 14, 2020 @ 5:53am 
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Originally posted by rooflessbear:
I don't get what is so bad about denuvo... can someone please explain?

Basically nothing. It's a DRM, but so is Steam.

In some very rare cases, it decreases performance (when it's badly implemented). But the vast majority of people complaining about it don't focus on that.

They complain that it's a DRM that requires you to be constantly online (which is partly false) and that the day the Denuvo servers go down, people won't be able to play Denuvo games anymore (which is plain dumb).

Thing is, it's the exact same thing with Steam. You have to be online to install games, and if Steam's servers ever shut down we can all kiss our libraries goodbye.

Really, all these anti-denuvo sheep are just a bunch of hypocrites trying to sound edgy but failing to realise how stupid they sound.

Because you'd have to be a major idiot to believe that, if Denuvo ever goes down, they won't release a patch or something to remove the DRM so we can still play the games we bought.
error780 Dec 14, 2020 @ 8:27am 
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Originally posted by King in Yellow:
Originally posted by rooflessbear:
I don't get what is so bad about denuvo... can someone please explain?

Basically nothing. It's a DRM, but so is Steam.

In some very rare cases, it decreases performance (when it's badly implemented). But the vast majority of people complaining about it don't focus on that.

They complain that it's a DRM that requires you to be constantly online (which is partly false) and that the day the Denuvo [...]


You are missing the point entirely. It is not *only* that it is a DRM, sometimes requires internet connection and you will lose your game if the server ever shuts down

It is that Denuvo is completely unnecessary.
Sure it makes it harder to download illegally for some days, but after than that pirates will forever have a superior version than you who have bought the game

Even if thats not the case, why would I be in favour of having some artificial restrictions in some games, like the ones you already mention? By the way, it is proved that Denuvo decreases performance, even if it is only a bit, why should I (or you) accept that?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYNijcMZoiLRp697-RzKArVtTMbCryrxM

Sure you can argue that you have played Denuvo games and you have yet to notice performace errors. The questions is if those games would run even better without Denuvo, answer is yes. You are paying the game, you deserve the best version, pirates doesnt

Feel free to spend your money in what you please, I will do the same, but please do not call me "major idiot" just because you dont understand (or care) about my reasons.
King in Yellow Dec 14, 2020 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Error780:
Feel free to spend your money in what you please, I will do the same, but please do not call me "major idiot" just because you dont understand (or care) about my reasons.

Did you actually read my post? The "major idiots" are those who believe that when Denuvo goes down, all the games using Denuvo won't be playable anymore. Which you have to admit is idiotic.

Believe it or not I share your point of view that Denuvo is anti-consumer and only ends up hurting the players who purchase the game. But I'm not naive enough to think publishers even remotely care about the games they're selling or the people who play them. They only care about making the most money out of the product, and they're the ones pushing Denuvo and other DRM, because the way they see it, a pirated copy = a loss. Which is idiotic as well, and has been proven false many times. As much as I hate it, I understand their reasoning.

But reading things like "I was interested in this game until I learned it had Denuvo" or "Denuvo = no buy" just makes me cringe. Especially when it's on Steam, which is just another DRM.
error780 Dec 14, 2020 @ 9:41am 
Originally posted by King in Yellow:
Originally posted by Error780:

Did you actually read my post? The "major idiots" are those who believe that when Denuvo goes down, all the games using Denuvo won't be playable anymore. Which you have to admit is idiotic.

I apologise. I actually wanted to refer to "bunch of hypocrites failing to realise how stupid they sound" line, honestly I don't really care. I don't see the need to insult anyone.

Then we agree, the difference is that you see it as a lost battle (probably it is, who knows) and you still say there's "basically nothing" bad about denuvo


Originally posted by King in Yellow:
Originally posted by Error780:

But I'm not naive enough to think publishers even remotely care about the games they're selling or the people who play them. They only care about making the most money out of the product,

Neither am I, that is why I refuse to buy a game with these policies. It's the only message I can send that, maybe, they care to hear
Last edited by error780; Dec 14, 2020 @ 9:43am
Originally posted by DRUNK_CANADIAN:
Looks like you don't want my money again. 10/10 Devs/publishers.
same, was looking forward to this after the announcement but just saw damn Denuvo attached....no money from me either.
Zeus Dec 14, 2020 @ 12:04pm 
Originally posted by Viking Blood:
Originally posted by DRUNK_CANADIAN:
Looks like you don't want my money again. 10/10 Devs/publishers.
same, was looking forward to this after the announcement but just saw damn Denuvo attached....no money from me either.
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