Character Creator Body Types

[RedWorld]

Hi, pretty decent game so far. Interested in playing more but will the devs consider re-instating Male/Female for the character creator? The whole "body type" thing as a means of replacing Male and Female is weird and detracts from the experience of creating a character and the fantasy of the game.

Thanks for considering.

[RedWorld]

Additionally, the color options for eyes could use some Red

[Cephara]

Brah, they're both male. Jagex doesn't put females in their games.

[RedWorld]

Originally posted by Cephara:

Brah, they're both male. Jagex doesn't put females in their games.

Haha it does kind of look that way but "Body Type B" is definitely just... female... I'd kind of think it would be offensive to women to be reduced to "Type B" lol.

[Rose Brigade]

Originally posted by RedWorld:

Originally posted by Cephara:

Brah, they're both male. Jagex doesn't put females in their games.

Haha it does kind of look that way but "Body Type B" is definitely just... female... I'd kind of think it would be offensive to women to be reduced to "Type B" lol.

As a woman, I am not offended.
It's just body types lol, who cares, pick the one that fits you and move on. The only people offended by it are people who care too much about binary categorization.

[BigMikeBigWhoop]

Oh man, the worst offender of all... New World...

You can choose Human Male, or Human Female...
And you get the same sized, same shaped Human regardless... And so does everyone else...
And every NPC in the game...
An entire game full of the same person over-and-over-and-over...

[RedWorld]

Originally posted by Rose Brigade:

Originally posted by RedWorld:

Haha it does kind of look that way but "Body Type B" is definitely just... female... I'd kind of think it would be offensive to women to be reduced to "Type B" lol.

As a woman, I am not offended.
It's just body types lol, who cares, pick the one that fits you and move on. The only people offended by it are people who care too much about binary categorization.

Well that's the thing, picking one that 'fits you' isn't really the point. What is a body type A and a body type B? Obviously these are proxys for Male and Female. It's just so strange to substitute out the names. It would be like every type of gatherable in the game being named 'Rock type 1', 'Rock type 2', 'Tree type 1', etc. I'm just asking if the devs would consider making the game more alive by removing modern blandness from character creator. More color options for hair and eyes would be good improvements too, though I know it's early on.

[ButtahNips]

Originally posted by RedWorld:

Originally posted by Cephara:

Brah, they're both male. Jagex doesn't put females in their games.

Haha it does kind of look that way but "Body Type B" is definitely just... female... I'd kind of think it would be offensive to women to be reduced to "Type B" lol.

There are more positive reasons for sticking to type A type B naming for body types rather than male/female.
Almost all people are indifferent to type A type B
but there are a minority of people that the male/female naming is triggering.
Functionally nothing changes, but it makes the experience a little bit better for those who may be suffering from dysphoria.

[ButtahNips]

Originally posted by RedWorld:

Originally posted by Rose Brigade:

As a woman, I am not offended.
It's just body types lol, who cares, pick the one that fits you and move on. The only people offended by it are people who care too much about binary categorization.

Well that's the thing, picking one that 'fits you' isn't really the point. What is a body type A and a body type B? Obviously these are proxys for Male and Female. It's just so strange to substitute out the names. It would be like every type of gatherable in the game being named 'Rock type 1', 'Rock type 2', 'Tree type 1', etc. I'm just asking if the devs would consider making the game more alive by removing modern blandness from character creator. More color options for hair and eyes would be good improvements too, though I know it's early on.

I'm giving you a LOT of charity here (considering the political climate and discussions in this kind of vein) but truly it adds positive experiences for those struggling, and does not (provably, scientifically) harm anyone.

[spicy little monkey]

The world was a better place when people didn't cry when being called man or woman.

[Korys]

"detracts from the experience" does it really or are you just insecure?

[spicy little monkey]

Originally posted by Korys:

"detracts from the experience" does it really or are you just insecure?

I personally think it's stupid, utter stupid, when a game calls people something other than man or woman.
That's about the start and end of it.

It does 'detract' from the exp in that way, yes.

[Rose Brigade]

Originally posted by spicy little monkey:

The world was a better place when people didn't cry when being called man or woman.

This kind of comment is the reason why it should stay in the game lol.

[ButtahNips]

Originally posted by spicy little monkey:

Originally posted by Korys:

"detracts from the experience" does it really or are you just insecure?

I personally think it's stupid, utter stupid, when a game calls people something other than man or woman.
That's about the start and end of it.

It does 'detract' from the exp in that way, yes.

I bet you also screeched when NexusMods banned the "pronoun removal mod" for starfield.

[spicy little monkey]

Originally posted by ButtahNips:

I bet you also screeched when NexusMods banned the "pronoun removal mod" for starfield.

Never played Starfield, and I 99% of the time don't use mods.

[RedWorld]

Originally posted by ButtahNips:

Originally posted by RedWorld:

Haha it does kind of look that way but "Body Type B" is definitely just... female... I'd kind of think it would be offensive to women to be reduced to "Type B" lol.

There are more positive reasons for sticking to type A type B naming for body types rather than male/female.
Almost all people are indifferent to type A type B
but there are a minority of people that the male/female naming is triggering.
Functionally nothing changes, but it makes the experience a little bit better for those who may be suffering from dysphoria.

I'm not sure if I'd buy the assumption that 'almost all people are indifferent to type A type B'. It might be true but I'm skeptical. I think the average response to seeing it 'that's odd' then checking to see which one is male and which one is female. It's like the removal of clarity for the sake of being unclear.

I'm also unsure how dysphoria is involved. Anyone is free to choose Male or Female. Cool thing about fantasy games is you can be stuff that you are not. I'm not a wizard but I can be one in this game which is rad! I just also believe that being a Body Type B Wizard is stranger and less immersive that being a Female Fire Wizard for example.

I think the argument for functionality is kind of moot. Hair style and color have no functional changes either, but it sure is nice to customize your character to look cool or whatever style you like.

Anyways, still can't see a good reason for erasing Males and Females from the creator for humans. I get it if they add some other races or something, that would make more sense.