Is there a Christian game where you prove athiests wrong?

[Horror Pigeon]

I don't mean gloating but at least prove athiests and agnostics wrong right to their face. A game where someone of faith wins for ONCE.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

I don’t think there are very many Christian developers in the industry, most games that I see or play are very secular. If Christianity is featured in games at all, it’s usually not shown in a positive light. I could be wrong but I play a lot of indie titles and a wide range of genres and rarely ever see Christian themes or characters. It seems like popular culture (of which video games are a part of, I would argue) and Christianity diverged completely at some unknown point in history.

[there is no band]

Is someone preventing Christians from making video games? As long as they have any talent and will? There's loads of impressive indie games made by very small teams or largely just one dev.
So rather than complaining, your coreligionist should try to create their own stuff.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by there is no band:

Is someone preventing Christians from making video games? As long as they have any talent and will? There's loads of impressive indie games made by very small teams or largely just one dev.
So rather than complaining, your coreligionist should try to create their own stuff.

This is the thing I say to the anti-woke SJWs that hate 98% of all new games because of sociopolitical reasons. If you feel underrepresented and you care so much about having games be a certain way- learn to make art (3D modeling or Pixelart-it’s your choice), graphics programming, story telling, writing, learn how to use Unreal, Unity, Godot, Game Maker Studio even. Get together with your fellow chuds and start creating if you find the modern Industry to be so despicable and terrible. But somehow they don’t seem interested in that, they would rather just complain on Twitter and Steam Discussions.

[reniferziolo]

indika never proved nor disproved the existence of god

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by reniferziolo:

indika never proved nor disproved the existence of god

This is kind of a good point or at least, it made me realize something. One cannot “prove an atheist wrong” without simultaneously proving the existence of God in order to validate Christianity. Then, having faith in the Christian God (an important component of Christianity) doesn’t really mean anything once you have proven his existence. Because having faith in something that has been conclusively proven is not really any kind of faith at all.

I don’t really think Indika is really a Christian or anti-Christian tale at the end of the day. Indika did not really choose to live a life of faith, so it’s not that surprising (to me) that she would eventually drop the pretense entirely of living to serve God. It doesn’t necessarily say anything negative about the Christian faith. Although, I’m still not completely sure that I fully understood the story. I personally found some of it, especially the ending, to be somewhat unclear and esoteric in what exactly the message of the game/story was meant to convey.

[control-SEVEN]

Why are people still ensnared with a 2000 year old governing tool? you know Christianity justifies billionaires to steal and exploit.

[StoryGamer]

Originally posted by Horror Pigeon:

I don't mean gloating but at least prove athiests and agnostics wrong right to their face. A game where someone of faith wins for ONCE.

Why yes, yes it is. It's a moving story about a young woman of faith who embraces God and finds true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood.

Yep.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

Originally posted by Horror Pigeon:

I don't mean gloating but at least prove athiests and agnostics wrong right to their face. A game where someone of faith wins for ONCE.

Why yes, yes it is. It's a moving story about a young woman of faith who embraces God and finds true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood.

Yep.

Did we play the same game? I don’t quite know exactly what Indika found at the end of the story, but I know it was not “true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood”.

[StoryGamer]

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

Why yes, yes it is. It's a moving story about a young woman of faith who embraces God and finds true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood.

Yep.

Did we play the same game? I don’t quite know exactly what Indika found at the end of the story, but I know it was not “true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood”.

At least you’re consistent.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

Did we play the same game? I don’t quite know exactly what Indika found at the end of the story, but I know it was not “true happiness through the willing surrender of selfhood”.

At least you’re consistent.

I’m open to hearing anyone’s theory about the meaning of the story and I’m not saying you’re wrong, not exactly. I just don’t see how you were able to arrive at such a conclusion but apparently you don’t feel like sharing your reasoning based on your obtuse response.

For context- here is the last paragraph on the Indika Wikipedia page’s plot section.

“ Back in the present, Indika is put in a cell. The guard offers to free her in return for sexual favors, but after Indika does so he refuses to help. With assistance from the Devil, Indika manages to disable the guard and escape from prison. Wandering into town, she finds Ilya, who reveals he sold the Kudets at a pawn shop for five rubles and a trumpet. Indika goes to the pawn shop and finds the Kudets. While Ilya distracts the owner, she prays to it. When nothing happens, Indika opens up the Kudets and discovers it is empty. Her faith broken, Indika's rosary shatters on the pawn shop floor.”

This seems much more in-line with the game I played than anything you’re describing.

[StoryGamer]

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

At least you’re consistent.

I’m open to hearing anyone’s theory about the meaning of the story and I’m not saying you’re wrong, not exactly. I just don’t see how you were able to arrive at such a conclusion but apparently you don’t feel like sharing your reasoning based on your obtuse response.

My response was tongue-in-cheek, as any acute reader would have observed.

You know the word acute? In geometry, it’s the opposite of obtuse.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

I’m open to hearing anyone’s theory about the meaning of the story and I’m not saying you’re wrong, not exactly. I just don’t see how you were able to arrive at such a conclusion but apparently you don’t feel like sharing your reasoning based on your obtuse response.

My response was tongue-in-cheek, as any acute reader would have observed.

You know the word acute? In geometry, it’s the opposite of obtuse.

This is why I enjoy Steam discussions so much, the majority of people are just unnecessarily rude, arrogant, and snarky (at the first possible opportunity). The more PC gamers I meet on here, the less I like the community as a whole. Everyone is just waiting for the opportunity to call each other dumb, poor, ignorant, owners of “potato PCs”… whatever negative adjective first springs to mind. No wonder there is absolutely no sense of community here.

[StoryGamer]

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

My response was tongue-in-cheek, as any acute reader would have observed.

You know the word acute? In geometry, it’s the opposite of obtuse.

This is why I enjoy Steam discussions so much, the majority of people are just unnecessarily rude, arrogant, and snarky (at the first possible opportunity). The more PC gamers I meet on here, the less I like the community as a whole. Everyone is just waiting for the opportunity to call each other dumb, poor, ignorant, owners of “potato PCs”… whatever negative adjective first springs to mind. No wonder there is absolutely no sense of community here.

If I seem contemptuous toward you, it’s because we’ve crossed paths before.

I have less than zero respect for you.

You’re not a good person.

You aren’t honest, you aren’t intelligent, and you aren’t kind. Your existence is a negative for everyone.

You make bad-faith arguments with the intent to prevent people from being treated with basic decency.

Maybe someday you’ll experience an awakening. Maybe your heart will grow fifty sizes that day.

It’ll still be ten sizes smaller than any normal heart.

I hope you do have such an awakening, truly.

[Jedimindtrickonyou]

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

This is why I enjoy Steam discussions so much, the majority of people are just unnecessarily rude, arrogant, and snarky (at the first possible opportunity). The more PC gamers I meet on here, the less I like the community as a whole. Everyone is just waiting for the opportunity to call each other dumb, poor, ignorant, owners of “potato PCs”… whatever negative adjective first springs to mind. No wonder there is absolutely no sense of community here.

If I seem contemptuous toward you, it’s because we’ve crossed paths before.

I have less than zero respect for you.

You’re not a good person.

You aren’t honest, you aren’t intelligent, and you aren’t kind. Your existence is a negative for everyone.

You make bad-faith arguments with the intent to prevent people from being treated with basic decency.

Maybe someday you’ll experience an awakening. Maybe your heart will grow fifty sizes that day.

It’ll still be ten sizes smaller than any normal heart.

I hope you do have such an awakening, truly.

You have some strong feelings for a person I don’t remember. You must be one of the anti-woke right wing extremists, that’s only people on Steam that would have a problem with me. I can’t help but give you all a hard time for absolutely ruining Steam Discussions and turning it into a place for spreading disinformation. You guys can’t expect me to remember you when you are constantly changing your usernames and cycling through private profiles. The only reason you even know who I am is because I have the decency of keeping the same username.

[StoryGamer]

Originally posted by Jedimindtrickonyou:

Originally posted by StoryGamer:

If I seem contemptuous toward you, it’s because we’ve crossed paths before.

I have less than zero respect for you.

You’re not a good person.

You aren’t honest, you aren’t intelligent, and you aren’t kind. Your existence is a negative for everyone.

You make bad-faith arguments with the intent to prevent people from being treated with basic decency.

Maybe someday you’ll experience an awakening. Maybe your heart will grow fifty sizes that day.

It’ll still be ten sizes smaller than any normal heart.

I hope you do have such an awakening, truly.

You have some strong feelings for a person I don’t remember. You must be one of the anti-woke right wing extremists, that’s only people on Steam that would have a problem with me. I can’t help but give you all a hard time for absolutely ruining Steam Discussions and turning it into a place for spreading disinformation. You guys can’t expect me to remember you when you are constantly changing your usernames and cycling through private profiles. The only reason you even know who I am is because I have the decency of keeping the same username.

Not anti-woke in the least. I get called woke quite a lot.

On another thread in this same game, people were asking to make the minigames skippable. They were asking for a small, compassionate act, one of basic decency.

You posted again and again and again, arguing that they don’t deserve it.

I can’t even imagine hearing people say “please help us” and formulating an argument “here’s why you shouldn’t be helped.”

It’s vile behavior.

And you did it over and over.