[ENDING SPOILER] The ending seems... Sudden? Just me? [ENDING SPOILER]

[Samsy19]

(DO NOT READ ANY SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED THE GAME, /ESPECIALLY/ THE ONE IN MY LAST AND FIRST PARAGRAPH!)

The ending seems to come out of nowhere if you ask me. In my ending the king saves the son, slumps against a tree and dies, reunited with his daughter in heaven. This is the secret ending, apparently so I can assume it only to be the 'best' ending.

The queen is on the throne, seeming strong and out for blood / revenge to protect her family. Morana personified.

All the agents are alive (Though I never hired Julian)

All the kids are alive (Though I didn't make Tymo feel like my own son since I accidentally gave him a negative nickname, lmao. Sorry, Knucklehead.)

Overall I got the best ending as far as I can tell outside of a few side stories and small things that don't seem to affect the main narrative. I also got a secret cut scene at the end that was very wholesome, in a sort of melancholy way which further cemented the idea of 'you did it right'.



Despite how well I did though, I feel as if the epilogue was very disappointing. It cuts off very suddenly Once you retake the castle, there's no explanation of the outcome of your kingdom, just the 'fate of the characters' thing from the first game but it comes out of nowhere and feels quite hollow of a victory at the end, definitely rushed.

It honestly feels like the game should've continued for a bit longer after with signs of the kingdom healing, getting worse or at least /something/ to see what all your efforts accomplished.


Quite the cliffhanger at the end I feel, great for a DLC or a next game if planned... But I of course, have no idea if either of those things were planned when this ending was made... I truly hope so, because if not, Yeah, not the best way to end it.

I hope for a third game because of this, I really do.

Like come on, we don't get to see what happens after the king is dead? In the first game we have consequences of Lorsulia's wedding, hostage-ing and death shown, but nothing here?

[cord64]

100% we where going to have another chapter but they rushed the game so we dont have it. During the walk you can still get prosperity and other things that would be used for another chapter, also The WHOLE REASON we go back to the castle is because they have our son. Yet no one goes and finds him and the king?

Also the king wakes up from a coma and orders people around yet they all flock to the queen?

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by cord64:

100% we where going to have another chapter but they rushed the game so we dont have it. During the walk you can still get prosperity and other things that would be used for another chapter, also The WHOLE REASON we go back to the castle is because they have our son. Yet no one goes and finds him and the king?

Also the king wakes up from a coma and orders people around yet they all flock to the queen?

I'm inclined to agree. The original plan put forwards as well is that we grab the son, run to Jakub's estate and work out what to do.

It feels like there was going to be a whole final chapter set up after the moment where you talk to companions, children, etc to talk about what just happened and to try to find a proper way to take back your lands / castle (Since the ending still has 2 armies outside your gates that are leaderless, I guess, but still there)

The lack of any shown reaction to the king's death, your son's (In my case) reuniting with his mother and her learning of her husband's death are completely missing. It's very strange.

[cord64]

The place the game ends feels like its just after the middle of the story, because we have the holy mother to fight, one of our lords betrays us, and non of the others come to our aid, we also at war with the taxidermy freak, and we have a DEMON BABY, Some church hast to send a crusade or two.

[The Dutch Guy/Bramzter]

what is this about a secret ending? i basically had the same outcomes but i didn't see that last part in the king eryk section just the slump. is it after the credits?

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by The Dutch Guy/Bramzter:

what is this about a secret ending? i basically had the same outcomes but i didn't see that last part in the king eryk section just the slump. is it after the credits?

Yeah it was after the credits for me.

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by cord64:

The place the game ends feels like its just after the middle of the story, because we have the holy mother to fight, one of our lords betrays us, and non of the others come to our aid, we also at war with the taxidermy freak, and we have a DEMON BABY, Some church hast to send a crusade or two.

I agree again. So much left unanswered or untouched on.

[AlexVezok]

Yes, the ending felt very abrupt. I couldn´t believe that was the ending until i saw the credits, was expecting at least one more chapter.

I did not get the ending with Eryk, dunno what i did wrong, he just continued ill and the prince was kidnapped again.

The first game had a more closed and fullfilling ending and better twists and moments. It starts good, but goes down pretty quickly.

Now, we have to wait +5 years to see how it continues (if it does continue, of course)

BTW, even when in my first save on the first game i did not do the ritual, the prince still had a tail. I understand is because of the story, but i keep thinking if its caused by a bug.

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

Yes, the ending felt very abrupt. I couldn´t believe that was the ending until i saw the credits, was expecting at least one more chapter.

Fully agree, again. It's so sudden and out of nowhere, even the music seems to not match at all to the sudden cut off.

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

I did not get the ending with Eryk, dunno what i did wrong, he just continued ill and the prince was kidnapped again.

https://i.imgur.com/E5SsCEG.jpeg I think the key is dealing with all the demons in Eryk's head. I did so by being kind to them all, and helping them solve their issues (Except for the old bearded guy, I was too late for that one, but it seemed I did well enough) and in turn helped Eryk forgive himself.

While not mentioned in that image I spoilered, I do genuinely believe the Fern flower Adalia grows for her father is INCREDIBLY important for this. He immediately starts getting better after it, and in the week after the demons started to slowly fade away. I think it's him realising his family aren't being pushed away by him, and they still love him alongside healing him a bit. Not that we ever find out.

This meant Eryk Recovered and woke up and then he went and fought the blue clothed Adanian lord, Margot or whatever it was and barely won, but was mortally wounded.

After reloading and reading the ending thins again, It's clear I was wrong about this game having no real explanation of what happens after, however all we DO get is this https://i.imgur.com/aUdNGwJ.jpeg outside of side character stuff. It seems that the prince Is found by the people and handed to the queen, I don't know how I missed such an obvious detail. It also suggests that they see the baby as a miracle child as well.

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

BTW, even when in my first save on the first game i did not do the ritual, the prince still had a tail. I understand is because of the story, but i keep thinking if its caused by a bug.

Yes, this is because you CHOSE the prince. The parents were cursed to not have a son, the ritual broke the curse, at least temporarily I didn't choose a daughter myself, but if I had I imagine she would be Tail-less


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Fascinating to see that there is at least ONE major change you can make to the ending, and it is at least explained a little We don't get ANY reaction from the royal family of the king's death though, which is miserable considering how powerful a moment the Princess' death was in the first game. Such a missed moment, it truly is... I could easily imagine the heart wrench from that, a state funeral, and then the kingdom rising again thanks to the king's sacrifice with a young prince learning to rule alongside his mother for a glorious, bittersweet and heartwarming conclusion. But we get basically nothing.

[Evenstar]

This is so mad to me, as I think I got the exact same ending as above, slumped against the tree holding the prince etc, however I didn't interpret it as he dies, just that he was exhausted. Did I miss a line where it said he died? Also I was very annoyed not getting the 'treated Tymo as part of the family' etc, it didn't give me an option to give him a nice nickname, even though I'd only ever been nice to him. Anyone have any ideas?

I did feel that the ending was very abrupt. I'd found out that the Queen of Atana had lied about the book being a cure etc, and I was expecting this information to help in the final battle, did I miss something?

Also, I spent so long agonising over where my agents were placed in the final battle, however it didn't seem to matter, I just used items for everything and I didn't even need the agents at all.

I still really like the game but yeah I was a little confused by the ending, and it wasn't emotional like the first one

[AlexVezok]

Originally posted by Samsy19:

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

Yes, the ending felt very abrupt. I couldn´t believe that was the ending until i saw the credits, was expecting at least one more chapter.

Fully agree, again. It's so sudden and out of nowhere, even the music seems to not match at all to the sudden cut off.

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

I did not get the ending with Eryk, dunno what i did wrong, he just continued ill and the prince was kidnapped again.

https://i.imgur.com/E5SsCEG.jpeg I think the key is dealing with all the demons in Eryk's head. I did so by being kind to them all, and helping them solve their issues (Except for the old bearded guy, I was too late for that one, but it seemed I did well enough) and in turn helped Eryk forgive himself.

While not mentioned in that image I spoilered, I do genuinely believe the Fern flower Adalia grows for her father is INCREDIBLY important for this. He immediately starts getting better after it, and in the week after the demons started to slowly fade away. I think it's him realising his family aren't being pushed away by him, and they still love him alongside healing him a bit. Not that we ever find out.

This meant Eryk Recovered and woke up and then he went and fought the blue clothed Adanian lord, Margot or whatever it was and barely won, but was mortally wounded.

After reloading and reading the ending thins again, It's clear I was wrong about this game having no real explanation of what happens after, however all we DO get is this https://i.imgur.com/aUdNGwJ.jpeg outside of side character stuff. It seems that the prince Is found by the people and handed to the queen, I don't know how I missed such an obvious detail. It also suggests that they see the baby as a miracle child as well.

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

BTW, even when in my first save on the first game i did not do the ritual, the prince still had a tail. I understand is because of the story, but i keep thinking if its caused by a bug.

Yes, this is because you CHOSE the prince. The parents were cursed to not have a son, the ritual broke the curse, at least temporarily I didn't choose a daughter myself, but if I had I imagine she would be Tail-less


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Fascinating to see that there is at least ONE major change you can make to the ending, and it is at least explained a little We don't get ANY reaction from the royal family of the king's death though, which is miserable considering how powerful a moment the Princess' death was in the first game. Such a missed moment, it truly is... I could easily imagine the heart wrench from that, a state funeral, and then the kingdom rising again thanks to the king's sacrifice with a young prince learning to rule alongside his mother for a glorious, bittersweet and heartwarming conclusion. But we get basically nothing.

In regards of the ritual, in fact, no, i did not choose anything. In my original save of the first game, Eryk only had a baby daughter, not a son in any way. In conversations they talk about how the ritual was "risky"andd thats why the prince is like that. But in my story it did not continue that arc. I just assumed it was retconned for this game and that´s it.

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by Evenstar:

This is so mad to me, as I think I got the exact same ending as above, slumped against the tree holding the prince etc, however I didn't interpret it as he dies, just that he was exhausted. Did I miss a line where it said he died?

If you watch the credits, after them you get the secret ending where the king is in heaven for a moment. At least I did, that's the 'secret ending' which basically confirms his death in my eyes, since his illness state before that was revealed to be 'the realm between'.

Originally posted by Evenstar:

I did feel that the ending was very abrupt. I'd found out that the Queen of Atana had lied about the book being a cure etc, and I was expecting this information to help in the final battle, did I miss something?

The book was taken to Atana, as far as I know. It's what the Swans wanted and they were in cahoots with Atana to heal their queen. Nice to see someone else agrees the ending was abrupt.

Originally posted by Evenstar:

Also, I spent so long agonising over where my agents were placed in the final battle, however it didn't seem to matter, I just used items for everything and I didn't even need the agents at all.

I think it does matter, you just have to pick semi-intelligently. Don't send a known agent to hand over a prisoner, don't have someone weak protect the kids. I do think items do just kinda do everything though, yeah. It's only the prisoner strat that has bad outcomes from bad decisions as far as I know

Originally posted by Evenstar:

I still really like the game but yeah I was a little confused by the ending, and it wasn't emotional like the first one

Indeed.

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by AlexVezok:

Originally posted by Samsy19:

In regards of the ritual, in fact, no, i did not choose anything. In my original save of the first game, Eryk only had a baby daughter, not a son in any way. In conversations they talk about how the ritual was "risky"andd thats why the prince is like that. But in my story it did not continue that arc. I just assumed it was retconned for this game and that´s it.

Yeah my save loading from the first game didn't work properly, I just chose my decisions manually.

[Evenstar]

Originally posted by Samsy19:

The book was taken to Atana, as far as I know. It's what the Swans wanted and they were in cahoots with Atana to heal their queen. Nice to see someone else agrees the ending was abrupt.

If you allow Jakub to help Julian (by not enlisting them, giving them time, and speaking to them whenever you can), Julian learns to talk/write and tells you that the book they stole didn't heal the queen, they had lied, presumably she was already well or was never actually sick, maybe she planned Talos death somehow, maybe her baby is not Talos' or something, I thought we'd be able to use this kind of information to help in the final battle.

Maybe they're planning another sequel, but I did kind of expect some sort of 'reward' for getting this information, ah well

[Samsy19]

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The book was taken to Atana, as far as I know. It's what the Swans wanted and they were in cahoots with Atana to heal their queen. Nice to see someone else agrees the ending was abrupt. [/quote]

Originally posted by Evenstar:

If you allow Jakub to help Julian (by not enlisting them, giving them time, and speaking to them whenever you can), Julian learns to talk/write and tells you that the book they stole didn't heal the queen, they had lied, presumably she was already well or was never actually sick, maybe she planned Talos death somehow, maybe her baby is not Talos' or something, I thought we'd be able to use this kind of information to help in the final battle.

Maybe they're planning another sequel, but I did kind of expect some sort of 'reward' for getting this information, ah well

Ah see, I didn't trust Julian because y'know, what he did, so I didn't keep him as an agent.

[Samsy19]

Originally posted by Samsy19:

quote=Samsy19;604156072680228991]
The book was taken to Atana, as far as I know. It's what the Swans wanted and they were in cahoots with Atana to heal their queen. Nice to see someone else agrees the ending was abrupt.

Originally posted by Evenstar:

If you allow Jakub to help Julian (by not enlisting them, giving them time, and speaking to them whenever you can), Julian learns to talk/write and tells you that the book they stole didn't heal the queen, they had lied, presumably she was already well or was never actually sick, maybe she planned Talos death somehow, maybe her baby is not Talos' or something, I thought we'd be able to use this kind of information to help in the final battle.

Maybe they're planning another sequel, but I did kind of expect some sort of 'reward' for getting this information, ah well

Ah see, I didn't trust Julian because y'know, what he did, so I didn't keep him as an agent.

But yeah, I don't think that information would've changed anything. Good lore though.