The Day Before

The Day Before

Apox Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:32am
Scam ? WHERE they open refund for all
they open up refund FOR EVERONE but yeah its a scam they only want to scam everyone .....sure another game possibilty dead from hate gz
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BENN-EE5 Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:36am 
They would get sued into oblivioin by steam if they would not do it.

Unless steam decides they will remove the game from the store and automatically refund everyone, they will still benefit from the scam.

Even if 75% of the owners are refunding, that still means they have 25%. Considering that they put zero effort into this crap, they still come out on top money wise.

This is also just the perspective on the customer side. It is very likely they used this shell-game to scam money from unknown investors and also being able to write things off as business expenses.

Classic scam.
Last edited by BENN-EE5; Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:37am
Heineken Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:37am 
Fnastic could include a kiss and a hug with the refund, and they would still scream "SCAM" MEME
Heineken Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:38am 
Originally posted by BENN-EE5:
They would get sued into oblivioin by steam if they would not do it.

Unless steam decides they will remove the game from the store and automatically refund everyone, they will still benefit from the scam.

Even if 75% of the owners are refunding, that still means they have 25%. Considering that they put zero effort into this crap, they still come out on top money wise.

This is also just the perspective on the customer side. It is very likely they used this shell-game to scam money from unknown investors and also being able to write things off as business expenses.

Classic scam.

Sued for what? loving all these comments from arm chairs lawyers!
BENN-EE5 Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:42am 
Bro, nobody here will give you rewards. You can stop clowning.
Mr. Moon Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by Apox:
they open up refund FOR EVERONE but yeah its a scam they only want to scam everyone .....sure another game possibilty dead from hate gz
They are a scam lmao
ꉔꏂ꒐꒒ꇙ Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:44am 
Originally posted by BENN-EE5:
Bro, nobody here will give you rewards. You can stop clowning.

He won't, he has nothing else to do in his life but to try and defend this scam/lie of a "game"

"They are offering refunds!" yeah, because they had to lol.
Apox Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by BENN-EE5:
They would get sued into oblivioin by steam if they would not do it.

Unless steam decides they will remove the game from the store and automatically refund everyone, they will still benefit from the scam.

Even if 75% of the owners are refunding, that still means they have 25%. Considering that they put zero effort into this crap, they still come out on top money wise.

This is also just the perspective on the customer side. It is very likely they used this shell-game to scam money from unknown investors and also being able to write things off as business expenses.

Classic scam.
sure they 90% of early acces titles would get sued LUL
Apox Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:47am 
Originally posted by ᴄᴇɪʟɪɴɢ-ᴄʜᴀɴ:
Originally posted by BENN-EE5:
Bro, nobody here will give you rewards. You can stop clowning.

He won't, he has nothing else to do in his life but to try and defend this scam/lie of a "game"

"They are offering refunds!" yeah, because they had to lol.
they dont look at early acces titels on steam 90% of them never did this they have not to do this by anymeans
Apox Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:49am 
and they dont doing it for reputation they shutdown there company so they have no need to
Enigma Dec 12, 2023 @ 3:56am 
are you actually that retarded that you do not think its a scam, or are you just trying to troll?:steamsalty:
Apox Dec 12, 2023 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Enigma:
are you actually that retarded that you do not think its a scam, or are you just trying to troll?:steamsalty:
why they refund then for everyone not only 2h when its a scam dude they shutting there company down they dont need reputation or smh
TruebornJester Dec 12, 2023 @ 4:49am 
They will just take the money and run. What's steam going to do?. Go to Russia and get them? Steam would be covering refunds themselves. Probably insurance to cover eventualities like this.
Mentally Unstable Dec 12, 2023 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by TruebornJester:
They will just take the money and run. What's steam going to do?. Go to Russia and get them? Steam would be covering refunds themselves. Probably insurance to cover eventualities like this.

Chances are that steam still has all that money. From what I heard, steam doesn't immediately disburse the money but in batches (monthly?). No doubt that the devs will try and get steam to hand it all over but steam will definitely take out refunds and their fees from it first before handing the remainder (if any).

So if any of you want to stick it to the developer, request for a refund NOW before it is too late.
PopinFRESH Dec 12, 2023 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by TruebornJester:
They will just take the money and run. What's steam going to do?. Go to Russia and get them? Steam would be covering refunds themselves. Probably insurance to cover eventualities like this.

You clearly don't know how Steam partner program works. They don't get all that money just directly deposited into their bank accounts. The revenue is paid out after a period of time, which is done as a trailing month payout

https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/finance/payments_salesreporting/faq

Originally posted by Valve:
Q. When can I expect to be paid every month?
A. We pay out by the 30th of the month following sales. For example, we will pay you for calendar February month sales by March 30th. It may take a few business days for the payment to post to your bank account. In that case, you may see the payment in your bank account during the first few days of April, following the example above.

So no, Steam wouldn't need to "go to Russia" to get them; Valve just wouldn't remit payment for the refunded games.

Also, in the Steam Distribution Agreement with Valve they reserve the right to withhold payment and cancel/delist/remove a game/application and refund all purchases if the game/application is in violation of the distribution agreement.
Last edited by PopinFRESH; Dec 12, 2023 @ 5:02am
Originally posted by Heineken:
Originally posted by BENN-EE5:
They would get sued into oblivioin by steam if they would not do it.

Unless steam decides they will remove the game from the store and automatically refund everyone, they will still benefit from the scam.

Even if 75% of the owners are refunding, that still means they have 25%. Considering that they put zero effort into this crap, they still come out on top money wise.

This is also just the perspective on the customer side. It is very likely they used this shell-game to scam money from unknown investors and also being able to write things off as business expenses.

Classic scam.

Sued for what? loving all these comments from arm chairs lawyers!

EU and AU consumer rights violations.

Bethesda actually was under a class action law suit for not allowing refunds. When they realized they would actually lose it they reverted and opened up refunds. AU users were allowed to get refunds regardless of hours.

Since the original marketing for this game was pulled down just prior to launch, there can be strong claims that a bait and switch happened.

Im not saying this will happen or not, Im just pointing out what they could be sued for.

Steam pays developers in a manner where the devs dont get the money instantly but at the end of 30 days so it is very likely Steam themselves pulled the game from being purchasable on top of issuing refunds after Fnasatic stated they wont.
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Date Posted: Dec 12, 2023 @ 1:32am
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