Please stop calling legitimate complaints and concerns "review bombing"

[ShadowlessNexus]

Look. It's been like a year since I bought this game. I bought this game based on the combat. the art style, the diablo elements.

What I really didnt realize was going to be such a problem for me. was the layers of timers and rng to upgrade for things as simple as smelting ores and crafting weapons. I didn't expect the game to run *so bad* on my system when it has absolutely no right to run so poorly. It looks good. but its the art style. Not the visual fidelity. I didn't expect to feel like I was playing a freemium mobile game as a f2p. and I voiced my concerns. And I watched the echo chamber start. You no life's who patrol discord and steam forums looking for people saying "we don't like this" and then trying to say "your wrong"

Guess what. I am factually correct when I say I don't like something and I think its a bad feature that ruins the game. That's called an opinion. You are factually wrong for telling me I am wrong about not liking a system.

I definitely didnt expect the developers to have a roadmap. and then drop the roadmap immediately after I bought it, go radio silent, release an update nobody asked for and I defniitely didnt want with no real improvements to any of the issues, and then sit for like a year.

I've said this before in a comment. But I watched it devolve to a single meme image: the villagers of sacrement with the top caption: where update. Nobody knew what was happening. They did one update. and some hot fixes and vanished. and sure enough. the player count *plummetted*. You can sit in an echo chamber all you want guys. But if me and other people arent playing the game. talking about the game. or interacting with the game to essentially expose it to wider audiences. Then it dies. They have let it sit for a year. Then they just pop out with an update. Sure. The update fixed performance. Sure. The update made drops better in that stuff actually drops at all.

But really the core problems I had. Most of them. Were just given halfway concessions. I don't care if there are more resource drops. I dont. Want. To have to go out. and chop trees. and mine stones like its runescape to get upgrades. and then have to wait for resources to refill. and wait *hours* per piece for upgrades. Its completely ridicuolous. I watched the devs essentially try to say "your wrong. It's a great feature." Nobody liked it. The game dropped to a couple hundred people playing. People were not fans of the crucible.

And now your saying in the discord that your a couple months from closing to me. I bought your game at a premium to support you a year ago. And you have given me silence. condesending replies to common complaints and issues. and rants on twitter that make you look like a jack***.

Your a jack*** asking your army of people who already bought the game when you havent even delivered coop. and theres no word of it and we are a year in. to go make positive reviews trying to defend the game. WE gave you money. Give me a reason to make the review positive. I don't see any reason. I updated my review at the update yes. I left it not reccomended. Because you made it worse in some ways. gave me half concessions. and let me sit here for a year out 50 canadian dollars when I could have bought it now on sale for an overall better product that still isnt what I think it should be. Dont try to guilt trip me saying your 2 months from bankruptcy. You already took my money. If you want the game to be a success. Don't leave your community on read for 5+ month periods at a time and give basically nothing. then go back for months more. Don't tell people "they don't know how to make a build" or say "your wrong" when people express that they don't like a feature that isnt fun to them.

You have no sympathy from me. And anybody rushing to steam to try and pump up the game score is essentially lying to new people coming on board. New people should know that after a year they made some features worse. That there are still annoying, artificial time gates that are there for no reason. People should know that the game has daily and weekly's designed to trap you in like a gacha and honestly doesnt feel anywhere near complete enough to be 50 dollars after a year. I bought it in may 2024. I don't feel the need to defend anything. It's been a year. The game is still half finished to me. I don't feel at all that the time you spent stonewalling me was worth it. I'll give you a positive review when you earned it and act like a dev I want to support further.



Please do the clown rewards when the studio apparently dies in two months ask yourself if maybe Patrolling steam forums like a no life simp trying to discredit "the haters" is gonna save the game. Guys. The games had 200 player average for a year. Big update is 4k rn with a peak of 10k in the last 24 hours. Like if they are "gonna die in 2 months" this is not good. They need to listen.

I re edited because I'm stupid and pressed save early before finishing my edit lol.


Also lol to the guy calling me "mad" I wrote that in a level headed manner to communicate that you guys are actually simps and the devs using you to keep up the echo chamber.

[xLoona]

Originally posted by ShadowlessNexus:

I watched the devs essentially try to say "your wrong. It's a great feature." Nobody liked it.

And devs is right
You wrong
Its a great feature

[Rallianto]

You have some legitimate criticisms, but it would be easier to take them seriously if you weren't so mad

[Arpsen]

Originally posted by xLoona:

Originally posted by ShadowlessNexus:

I watched the devs essentially try to say "your wrong. It's a great feature." Nobody liked it.

And devs is right
You wrong
Its a great feature

Come on, I like it as well but let's not pretend a lot of people don't. It's fair criticism.

My issue is when they don't like half the game features; why are you even playing the game at that point? It really feels like lots of people think this is a Diablo/PoE with another skin, as if they did zero research about the game.

[Wonder]

You're entitled to your opinions but tbh it sounds like you barely looked at the game, bought it and got mad that they wouldn't completely rebuild it in your desired image.

I had none of your issues (except optimization but the Breach fixed it) and stuff like daily/weeklies aren't even necessary they are simply bonuses. Town upgrading in real time could go and I don't think we would lose much tbh but simultaneously it never hindered me whatsoever. Getting resources is ridiculously easy, you don't need to go off on a separate expedition for them just gather them as you go. People talk about making new realms for gathering stuff but I've had 0 need to do that and I'm still cruising along perfectly fine. (I'm not a pro git gud player either, I just play the game normally...)

There seems to be this weird sense of superiority wafting up from the haters but at the end of the day, while the game IS mixed recently, overall there's 41,999 total reviews with 31,251 positive and 10,748 negative. Not exactly worth getting on a high horse and basically announcing "Haha I told you so!"

[Wonder]

Originally posted by likelike:

facts. thomas lowkey got a cult on here. people posting paragraphs defending aint gonna save their 30 bucks when the games gone in 2 months LOL

What a surprise, go to a games forum and people defend the game, that's an incredible observation. 73 hours of fun with more on the horizon, I'm pretty satisfied with my money spent. Also weird take with the paragraph point, completely ignoring the OPs wall of text LOL.

[Plundy]

I was apprehensive to purchase the game because of the irl cacha-like timers for a single player game, but the art and style is just so amazing I was going to pick it up and just cheat engine the timers.

Everything since the breach update hasn't seemed great, especially with the ceo's or whatever he is comments. Saying attributes don't work in games and there is a better way sounds like cope for the devs not understanding how to actually use the system they implemented, so why would I trust them to find the "better way" when they can't even understand systems people have used and refined since the 80's?

Then something about the studio is going to go under unless they get good reviews just leaves no confidence that this game will be good after EA or even survive it.

Again though, the art, cutscenes, and style are great. Who knows wtf the game is going to end up as though. I'll just wait until release if it ever gets there.

[Triggerd_Noob]

I like ALL of the features you don't like OP. Every .Single. One of them.
I will say that you have earned your jesters with the seemingly real emotions you portrayed in your post. I will also give you a jester since you have worked hard for it. Enjoy!

[Rallianto]

Originally posted by likelike:

facts. thomas lowkey got a cult on here. people posting paragraphs defending aint gonna save their 30 bucks when the games gone in 2 months LOL

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

Originally posted by smelly:

It's actually wild the devs are calling this review bombing.

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

Originally posted by iamgeorge82:

I read the Devs comments about negative reviews, and he sounds like a spoiled child. He operates under the same system and everyone else so if his game is getting relatively low scores he should look in the mirror.

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

[ShadowlessNexus]

Originally posted by Rallianto:

Originally posted by likelike:

facts. thomas lowkey got a cult on here. people posting paragraphs defending aint gonna save their 30 bucks when the games gone in 2 months LOL

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

Originally posted by smelly:

It's actually wild the devs are calling this review bombing.

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

Originally posted by iamgeorge82:

I read the Devs comments about negative reviews, and he sounds like a spoiled child. He operates under the same system and everyone else so if his game is getting relatively low scores he should look in the mirror.

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

Do you seriously not see the mouse icon. It's right there lol.

[Feuver]

Originally posted by Rallianto:

This guy has not bought the game, and is just here to stir up controversy

You can not buy the game and still have an opinion about it. Is it less valid? Yes.

I was going to buy the game if the Breach update was positive and they removed stuff I fundamentally do not care for from reviews (Durability and Timers, mainly)

Turns out they doubled down on it so right now I'm just smug I didn't send them 40$+

[Oddless]

how about sending feedback
reviews for an early access game should be based on how its going to grow in the future.
obviously the full release will have desired qol features that the game received unjustified negative reviews for not having

[Feuver]

Originally posted by Oddless:

how about sending feedback
reviews for an early access game should be based on how its going to grow in the future.
obviously the full release will have desired qol features that the game received unjustified negative reviews for not having

How the hell are you supposed to know how the game is going to grow into in the future? Are you in the game's studios with the devs? Do you know what the devs have planned beyond the roadmap?

There has been negative feedback about a lot of features in wicked since release. Dailies, Timers, Gathering resources for heals. The reviews were positive, streamers and content creators as well, but all of them said they didn't like some of those systems or all of them.

We're now at the largest update of Wicked since release. Players have been forced to restart the game. And they realize very little has been done to address these issues, AND there were bugs in the update that made the game harder. Without accounting for performance issues, this current situation is not exactly surprising. Imagine having to not only start over the game (normal in ARPGs, but no in souls-like), and having to start over all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ upgrade grind all over again?

[ChotAp]

its your opinion and im ok with that, but stop saying things like "nobody asked for this..", "nobody wanted that..."

you don't know what others want, pls stop speaking for them.

[Feuver]

Originally posted by ChotAp:

its your opinion and im ok with that, but stop saying things like "nobody asked for this..", "nobody wanted that..."

you don't know what others want, pls stop speaking for them.

You can be obtuse if you want, but anyone reading this understands that they mean "in general, most people did not want or ask for that"

and by the state of steam reviews and general consensus they'd be right.

[Vile]

I hear you OP and I agree 100%. I find the term "review bombing" irritating af. Maybe people are just not happy with the game in its current state? I know I'm not. Seems like people aren't allowed to have opposing opinions on what makes a game enjoyable these days without being attacked and belittled which is a bit sad. It's EA so it's always going to be a gamble. I had fun for 60+ hours anyway so it is what it is. I'll just wait and see what happens next time they release an update providing they don't abandon the game due to lack of revenue.