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For the second one, the answer is no, asked the same thing here:
https://forum.norestforthewicked.com/t/is-this-ladder-in-nameless-pass-reachable/5071
The second area should be reachable after you've accessed the first.
But yeah, a bit hard to know exactly what you mean without screenshots.
As mentioned, take the elevator to the top. Go to the crane.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3230605663
Go over the little fence and drop down.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3230605764
Then drop to the ledge below.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3230605838
From here you have access to a lot of new areas to explore.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3232183696
I'm hoping this works. I'm trying to find out how to access these areas. Even that water mill in the distance.
Are you talking about me? Journal entry? You're being kinda unclear.
These aren't reachable at the moment.
It does lead to a lot of areas and shortcuts. It does not lead to the areas shown in the screenshots posted after my own post, that's true. Not sure why you're bothering to point that out...
It does, you just haven't looked around properly.
At most you can drop down to the north west of the cliffs and skip a very brief section of the first area to save yourself about two minutes and unlock a shortcut slightly earlier.
So ... for now there is no way to reach the area above the waterfall ?
EDIT you can with 40+ point healt 😂
https://youtu.be/ijCkMHONFb4?si=MtvQQgie7JFyuLlo