Why the price in Poland is the highest in the world?

[Jamnik Pucek]

This is not the first case where the price on the Polish market is the highest in the world. I am frankly fed up with this situation. We are a country where the minimum salary (which many people receive) is EUR 745, yet we pay more for games than rich Western countries. Why is it that prices for the South American market or neighbouring Ukraine can be adequately tailored and ours cannot?

[Ash]

Цитата допису PrimusNephilim:

I was curious as to why after reading your post, so I did a search and it would seem this issues falls on Steam as they have not updated their price schedule.

"Due to the fact that Valve hasn't updated its price schedule in Poland since 2022, the exchange rate of the Polish zloty remains significantly outdated, resulting in games being overpriced in comparison to other member states of the European Union."

This is a know issue for Poles and we're trying to get Valve's attention to finally update the pricing, but so far no luck. Some developers were kind enough to change the pricing after explaining to them the issue, so we were also hoping it would be the same case here.

[PrimusNephilim]

Цитата допису Ash:

Цитата допису PrimusNephilim:

I was curious as to why after reading your post, so I did a search and it would seem this issues falls on Steam as they have not updated their price schedule.

"Due to the fact that Valve hasn't updated its price schedule in Poland since 2022, the exchange rate of the Polish zloty remains significantly outdated, resulting in games being overpriced in comparison to other member states of the European Union."

This is a know issue for Poles and we're trying to get Valve's attention to finally update the pricing, but so far no luck. Some developers were kind enough to change the pricing after explaining to them the issue, so we were also hoping it would be the same case here.

I wish you luck

[Simplex]

Thank you. You can sign a petition :)

https://www.change.org/p/let-s-fix-polish-prices-on-steam-03f6be92-f35f-45f3-ad62-7951bde6f39b

[Viper]

$40US is 160 z ( not 157 as people are trying to say)so no its not more expensive. NOt to mention.The difference between 157 and 160 is not even 1 USD .Its 75 cents.

[Simplex]

Цитата допису Viper:

$40US is 160 z ( not 157 as people are trying to say)so no its not more expensive. NOt to mention.The difference between 157 and 160 is not even 1 USD .Its 75 cents.

Are you lying on purpose, or are you just ignorant?
Go to steamdb, find No Rest for the Wicked, sort by price, compare price of the game in USD and PLN, come back here and share the results.

EDiT: I'll make it easy for you. Polish price is 179 PLN, which is 45.7 USD.
US price is 39,99, which is 157 PLN - can you see the difference now?
Proof:
https://i.imgur.com/45etMGt.png

You can also compare average salary in Poland and US, while you're at it.

[Shifterplay]

And a small addition to the topic:

When comparing living costs in the US and Poland, the cost of living in the US is higher by 68% - 135%. However, the purchasing power of the USD is 67% higher, and the average US salary is 3x of what you earn in Poland.

So even if we paid an equal sum in USD, games would still be hugely overpriced. I would argue about 30%. It's not like we are fighting for special privileges, since setting regional fair prices is common for countries with similar statistics. And this is the reason for this, and similar, topics. On Steam, we have always paid more than the rest, with some exceptions for developers who are aware of it. But lately, prices have spiked insanely high and are financially suffocating Polish gamers

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Poland&country2=United+States

Monthly salary:
36. Poland out of 97 listed coutries
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105

[Viper]

Цитата допису Shifterplay:

And a small addition to the topic:

When comparing living costs in the US and Poland, the cost of living in the US is higher by 68% - 135%. However, the purchasing power of the USD is 67% higher, and the average US salary is 3x of what you earn in Poland.

So even if we paid an equal sum in USD, games would still be hugely overpriced. I would argue about 30%. It's not like we are fighting for special privileges, since setting regional fair prices is common for countries with similar statistics. And this is the reason for this, and similar, topics. On Steam, we have always paid more than the rest, with some exceptions for developers who are aware of it. But lately, prices have spiked insanely high and are financially suffocating Polish gamers

https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=Poland&country2=United+States

Monthly salary:
36. Poland out of 97 listed coutries
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/country_price_rankings?itemId=105

SO that means that a developer should lose money on there product. Things cost what they cost.

[Shifterplay]

Цитата допису Viper:

SO that means that a developer should lose money on there product. Things cost what they cost.

They ARE losing money already, because people are NOT buying their games

Also, countries listed below must be in some magical charity program, since their prices start from -20% of base USD price.

 
Hong Kong Dollar	HK$ 248.00	$31.78	-20.52%	$28.60	HK$ 223.20 at -10%
 Costa Rican Colon	₡16000	$31.25	-21.83%	$28.13	₡14400 at -10%
 South Korean Won	₩ 42000	$31.15	-22.09%	$28.03	₩ 37800 at -10%
 Japanese Yen	¥ 4620	$29.75	-25.59%	$26.78	¥ 4158 at -10%
 U.A.E. Dirham	105.00 AED	$28.58	-28.51%	$25.72	94.50 AED at -10%
 Uruguayan Peso	$U1100	$28.45	-28.84%	$25.61	$U990 at -10%
 Chilean Peso	CLP$ 24000	$26.61	-33.46%	$23.94	CLP$ 21600 at -10%
 Mexican Peso	Mex$ 439.99	$26.36	-34.07%	$23.72	Mex$ 395.99 at -10%
 Qatari Riyal	95.00 QR	$26.08	-34.76%	$23.47	85.50 QR at -10%
 Singapore Dollar	S$35.00	$26.01	-34.94%	$23.41	S$31.50 at -10%
 Saudi Riyal	95.00 SR	$25.32	-36.66%	$22.79	85.50 SR at -10%
 Kuwaiti Dinar	7.50 KD	$24.41	-38.95%	$21.97	6.75 KD at -10%
 Colombian Peso	COL$ 92000	$24.03	-39.91%	$21.62	COL$ 82800 at -10%
 Kazakhstani Tenge	10400₸	$23.67	-40.79%	$21.31	9360₸ at -10%
 Brazilian Real	R$ 116,99	$22.81	-42.95%	$20.53	R$ 105,29 at -10%
 Thai Baht	฿770.00	$21.26	-46.83%	$19.13	฿693.00 at -10%
 Peruvian Sol	S/.79.00	$21.24	-46.88%	$19.11	S/.71.10 at -10%
 Philippine Peso	₱1199.00	$20.84	-47.87%	$18.76	₱1079.10 at -10%
 South African Rand	R 379.00	$20.81	-47.95%	$18.73	R 341.10 at -10%
 Indonesian Rupiah	Rp 330000	$20.72	-48.18%	$18.65	Rp 297000 at -10%
 Indian Rupee	₹ 1699	$20.35	-49.11%	$18.31	₹ 1529 at -10%
 Taiwan Dollar	NT$ 650	$20.22	-49.42%	$18.20	NT$ 585 at -10%
 Ukrainian Hryvnia	799₴	$20.18	-49.52%	$18.16	719₴ at -10%
 Malaysian Ringgit	RM95.00	$20.18	-49.53%	$18.16	RM85.50 at -10%
 Vietnamese Dong	510000₫	$20.04	-49.87%	$18.04	459000₫ at -10%
 CIS - U.S. Dollar	$19.99	$19.99	-50.01%	$17.99	$17.99 at -10%
 LATAM - U.S. Dollar	$19.99	$19.99	-50.01%	$17.99	$17.99 at -10%
 MENA - U.S. Dollar	$19.99	$19.99	-50.01%	$17.99	$17.99 at -10%
 South Asia - USD	$19.99	$19.99	-50.01%	$17.99	$17.99 at -10%
 Chinese Yuan	¥ 139	$19.25	-51.85%	$17.32	¥ 125.10 at -10%
 Russian Ruble	N/A	N/A	N/A

[Simplex]

Цитата допису Viper:

SO that means that a developer should lose money on there product. Things cost what they cost.

I bet that you had no idea that No Rest For The Wicked already costs 20$ (HALF of US price) in Vietnam, Phillipines, China, India, Indonesia, South Africa, Ukraine, Malaysia...

By your (flawed) logic, the developers are already "losing money" by selling games in those countries. So why are they doing it? They like losing money? :D

Earning less money does not equal to losing money, as you seem to believe.

[Wykydtron]

Because steam is scamming poles out of money, polish UOKIK recently launched investigation into it, people who bought Hades 2 already received partial refund due to them taking action against steam and psn.
Its simple 1PLN is $3.9 but steam calculates polish prices by using $5. Its illegal and i hope UOKIK will severely punish steam for that.

Steam has a lot too lose Uokik can fine them 10% of revenue and managers responsible for it can individually be fined 2 milion PLN
more on it:
https://www.purepc.pl/zawyzone-ceny-dla-graczy-na-playstation-store-i-steam-uokik-sprawdza-czy-platformy-nie-naduzywaly-swojej-pozycji

[Simplex]

on steam 1$ is 4.5$, not 5. And lowering of Hades II price and refunds has nothing to do with UOKIK investigation, it was result of community pressure on social media.

[Wykydtron]

Цитата допису Simplex:

on steam 1$ is 4.5$, not 5. And lowering of Hades II price and refunds has nothing to do with UOKIK investigation, it was result of community pressure on social media.

4.5 is still not 3.9, and you think they were scared more of community or government officials? anyway all my friends heard about it from polish press about uokik investigation and demanded refund.

[Octavian Giaus]

Цитата допису Simplex:

Цитата допису Omence072:

Ummm... steam store in the US is 39.99. if you want to get picky over 53 cents I don't know what to tell you.

Game is 40$ in USD, which is 157 PLN. But Polish price is 179 PLN, which is 45 USD. If you think this difference is insignificant, then maybe you'd like to pay 45$ for this game instead of 40?
(not to mention average salary in Poland is less than 50% of average US salary)

Does the EU tax your game purchases?
Or perhaps Poland has a tax?
They talked about a entertainment tax here in the US, in my state. I am thankful they did not pursue that tax.

[Shifterplay]

Цитата допису Octavian Giaus:

Цитата допису Simplex:

Game is 40$ in USD, which is 157 PLN. But Polish price is 179 PLN, which is 45 USD. If you think this difference is insignificant, then maybe you'd like to pay 45$ for this game instead of 40?
(not to mention average salary in Poland is less than 50% of average US salary)

Does the EU tax your game purchases?
Or perhaps Poland has a tax?
They talked about a entertainment tax here in the US, in my state. I am thankful they did not pursue that tax.

Yes, you pay it once on Steam and it's available through your purchase details.
For me it was:

No Rest for the Wicked - 161,10zł
Subtotal	130,98zł	
Discount	-17,90zł	( -12%)
Tax	30,12zł	
Total	161,10zł	

And funny enough, even with discount, I've paid 41,08$ for the game.

[Octavian Giaus]

Цитата допису Shifterplay:

Цитата допису Octavian Giaus:

Does the EU tax your game purchases?
Or perhaps Poland has a tax?
They talked about a entertainment tax here in the US, in my state. I am thankful they did not pursue that tax.

Yes, you pay it once on Steam and it's available through your purchase details.
For me it was:

No Rest for the Wicked - 161,10zł
Subtotal	130,98zł	
Discount	-17,90zł	( -12%)
Tax	30,12zł	
Total	161,10zł	

And funny enough, even with discount, I've paid 41,08$ for the game.

Subtotal $35.99
Discount -$4.00 ( -10%)
Tax $2.70
Total $38.69

Not sure how it all works, that is what I paid.
All in all I am happy with my purchase.
Truth be told, if I had it to do again they could get me for another $20 but I would need more content.