I guess everyone around here forgot about Thomas Mahler being a complete scumbag.

[Spynosaurus]

title.

[Rystefn]

The gaming community generally only has about two months of memory for that kind of thing, and rarely cares very much anyway. That's why we've been going through the endless of cycles of "wow, [company name here] sucks and is run by completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" for decades and nothing ever changes.

[BOT Cecil]

Just because there was a snowflake that needed a mental health holiday after hearing a swear word not even directed at him?

[harlequinsghost]

What's wrong? Can't the OP spell Gennadiy Korol's name correctly?

I can definitely see how the Reddit generation would view those two as "toxic" but I don't. I place a ton of value on candor and being direct so I appreciate their approach to communication. Where I believe they failed was not hiring intermediaries, people who understood both the creative mind and how gamedev actually works, to filter their feedback into something actionable rather than simply stating "your work is s***."

As for the jokes, comments and general locker room humor, I do not give a crap about that stuff. Then again, I'm an adult.

[Space Cadet]

You don't have to like someone to enjoy or appreciate their work. If you're gonna base your consumer decisions on whether or not the people who made the product are "nice" then you might as well just not play, watch or listen to anything and move to a cave or something, because I can almost guarantee you that at least some of those people are "scumbags".

[Tallahassee]

it's actually the ONLY thing I remember, so, yeah, that stuff sticks.
greetings from Austria, btw

[Elseworlds]

Idk who that is, and I don't care. If the game is good and fun, I'll play it. I couldn't care less who made it or what kind of person they are. The game is what matters.

[Overlord]

Not sure what he "did", but if it pissed off a snowflake like you, it only makes me want to buy it more.

[The Sultan of Salt]

Probably the reason his games are good is because he doesn't take/allow ♥♥♥♥ work.

[RodHull]

Originally posted by Space Cadet:

You don't have to like someone to enjoy or appreciate their work. If you're gonna base your consumer decisions on whether or not the people who made the product are "nice" then you might as well just not play, watch or listen to anything and move to a cave or something, because I can almost guarantee you that at least some of those people are "scumbags".

Pretty much this sadly... I mean Morrissey for gods sake. Man made some of the best songs oh his generation and is an absolute POS

[Retrogon]

Originally posted by Overlord:

Not sure what he "did", but if it pissed off a snowflake like you, it only makes me want to buy it more.

+1

[thomasmahler]

I wish these days people would again become a little bit more discerning than just reading some headline from some clickbait journalist and then form their opinions based on that. Life isn't all black and white, you know?

You don't know me, nor do you know how we run our studio and yet, you're here calling me a 'scumbag'.

How would you feel if someone spreads nasty rumors about you and now I go around the internet and call you a jerkoff, even though I've never talked to you and don't know anything about you? Do you think it's wise that we form our opinions on people based on hearsay?

Let's think a little before we post online, especially if what we want to post is so emotionally loaded that we feel like have to resort to insults.

[xxman]

Bro if we base our purchasing of games on the character of the people who made the games we would have no games to buy. Hell we won't even have phones. Like that steam deck of yours? Guess where they get the metarials to make batteries? slave child labor.

So grow up the world is full of scumbags worse than you can imagine. Buy what is good since any product that is good has to come from a good source. All evil can really do is destroy.

[Gannibal Kujoe]

Yo, op I just read about Thomas Mahler, you not going to like this but I agree with him and think he is right. He isn't a scumbag he is a dedicated professional that has a moral compass.
Not only was he right but he predicated the future of AAA game development.

Over hype a game promising ground breaking this and that. Drown out any coverage of other games, charge 100 dollars for early access. Charge a normalized 70 dollars for a base game. But what's in the product is stale old reductive game development that was tired in the early 2000s, now being rehashed in 2023 because a Billion dollar company can put their marketing behind them.

Anything else said about him, I am going to have to side-eye and take with a grain of salt. Once you piss people off in an industry, many times that industry comes back to try and bite you.

[WLion]

Originally posted by thomasmahler:

I wish these days people would again become a little bit more discerning than just reading some headline from some clickbait journalist and then form their opinions based on that. Life isn't all black and white, you know?

You don't know me, nor do you know how we run our studio and yet, you're here calling me a 'scumbag'.

How would you feel if someone spreads nasty rumors about you and now I go around the internet and call you a jerkoff, even though I've never talked to you and don't know anything about you? Do you think it's wise that we form our opinions on people based on hearsay?

Let's think a little before we post online, especially if what we want to post is so emotionally loaded that we feel like have to resort to insults.

I have no knowledge of whatever happened, but posting in this thread...uhm...doesn't do you any favors.

Would have been better served, in my opinion, to anonymously lock the thread and concentrate on the task of creating an exciting game.

I know that after seeing this response I am not going to be buying the game at all.

[BOT Cecil]

Originally posted by WLion:

Originally posted by thomasmahler:

I wish these days people would again become a little bit more discerning than just reading some headline from some clickbait journalist and then form their opinions based on that. Life isn't all black and white, you know?

You don't know me, nor do you know how we run our studio and yet, you're here calling me a 'scumbag'.

How would you feel if someone spreads nasty rumors about you and now I go around the internet and call you a jerkoff, even though I've never talked to you and don't know anything about you? Do you think it's wise that we form our opinions on people based on hearsay?

Let's think a little before we post online, especially if what we want to post is so emotionally loaded that we feel like have to resort to insults.

I have no knowledge of whatever happened, but posting in this thread...uhm...doesn't do you any favors.

Would have been better served, in my opinion, to anonymously lock the thread and concentrate on the task of creating an exciting game.

I know that after seeing this response I am not going to be buying the game at all.

Thomas was more than reasonable in his reply. But if you care more about a community thread than the actual quality of a game when making the purchase then your loss.