Plot fully explained and discussion (full spoilers) v2

[Nya]

To add on with what Saavedra wrote in another thread ( https://steamcommunity.com/app/1369630/discussions/2/3052860798166528394/ ) with a bit of different explanation using the notes and memories in game (sources are based on the official translated English version), here is the possible interpreted plot.

Just so you know there might be some errors in writing and the ordering can be slightly different based on how you interpret the sources. and yes v1 was deleted due to several mistakes in the middle part that did not add up to the whole story.

If you only want to know about the general story up until player's start, you can skip to The White Priestess of The Fount - Fretia and The Last Lily. The rest are mainly detailed background stories.

The Ancient War

To start, as Saavedra wrote, it all began with notes #42 ~ 44 King of the First Age’s Diary, where “this soon-to-be-king guy” with his friends came to the land and fought a war with the ancients. At the verge of the ancient’s defeat, the last undying warrior performed the deathless pact (spell’s detail was mentioned in #65 The Deathless Pact) with a baby girl as their next and last priestess (as shown in the cut-scene where we found the final Umbral Knight corpse within the Abyss). Without forgetting to mention, this baby girl inherited the heirloom as mentioned in #23 The Heirloom of Land’s End. On the other hand, “this guy” and his friends won the war. Among the victors, they cannot come to a peaceful co-existence, so the land was divided into six nations and “this guy” got his share of the meat known as land of the end (or Land’s End) and became the king.

Extra note:
- take note of 1 line within the cut-scene “hatred is the vilest Blight. Unaffected by purification it festers, rotting one from within.”

The Girl in The Deadland

Some times after the Ancient War, in #45 ~ 46 King of the First Age’s Torn Note mentioned he found a little girl (as we all know, it is that baby girl with her undying knight) in the deadland and took her in. This girl is later presume to be the White Priestess of The Dawn (mostly inferred, sadly no written record). The second note was likely had been written awhile later and talks about the ancient made a comeback with the Blight magic and thus the beginning of the Blight War. This leads to other notes like #7 Hamlet Request 1 to recruit warriors to help fight the Blight in the forest area (probably where the outbreak came from, since the forest area is connected to Verboten Domain; the other connecting path would be the area leading towards Execution Ground). At the same time in #9 True Believer’s Note mentions the death of many religions and the new rising figure of the White Priestess (and begins the White Parish “religion”). From that point on, in #15 ~ 17 The Parish Way gave a little background story about the Blight and how the White Priestess came to be. Eventually this follows with note #18 Adherent's Letter which mentions the formation of guardian candidates within the Catacomb (a little more to this later).

The Three Generations of Priestesses

From notes #1 Statue Inscription, #21 ~ 22 Defence of The Twin Spires, #20 The Next White Priestess, Siegrid’s memory it mentioned several priestesses figures and they are Dawn, Wind, Fount. Fretia is Fount (from Siegrid’s memory) and she is the third one (as explicitly mentioned in #20 The Next White Priestess). Whereas in # 22 Defence of The Twin Spires 2 it talked about the White Priestess of The Wind allowed the Twin Spires to be built and the White Priestess of The Fount is the one defended it. This is further backed by #40 Monument Engraving that said Gerrord erect a monument in memory of those who fought alongside the White Priestess of The Wind which allows the construction of the Twin Spires. With these facts we can infer the following:

- Priestess of The Dawn is the first Priestess (most likely also the baby girl that got adopted by the king, inferred)
- Priestess of The Wind is the second Priestess (daughter of Dawn, mother of Fount \ Fretia, inferred)
- Priestess of The Fount is the third Priestess (a.k.a. Fretia)

The White Priestess of The Dawn is most likely way before any of these survived notes recording; she was only mentioned in #1 Statue Inscription as a statue. Whereas for Priestess of Wind was only mentioned in maybe 2 notes (# 22 Defence of The Twin Spires 2 and #20 The Next White Priestess), throughout the rest of the plot below, it is presumable that White Priestess of The Dawn died long before and the White Priestess of The Wind was near her time too (died at some point after giving birth to Fretia). Most of the following events below are most likely in Fretia / Fount’s timeline.

The Blight War - Beginning

Note #37 Bloodied Note 1 was around the time of Fretia who just picked up her mother’s role to become the Priestess of The Fount to fight the Blight War and to defend the Twins Spires. With #8 Hamlet Request 2, they used the Catacomb as a quarantine zone (and mentioning anyone habouring Blighted individual will be send to execution) and this goes back to #18 Adherent’s Letter regarding the formation of guardians after such event.

The Blight War - Faden

In Faden’s perspective perhaps before the full on Blight War, in #49 Faden’s Archives 1 Faden witnessed the interaction between the White Priestess and the Blight (maybe from purifying Eleine’s mother). As a researcher, he took the opportunity to invite Fretia to his lab near Verboten Domain and to gather samples from young Fretia to study the Blight in a controlled manner. Later, in #13 Sorcerer's Notes (most likely Faden) mentions the study of the ancients and found that there is possibility a connection between the Blight and one particular branch of their magicks. This gave him the bargain power to successfully negotiated his way into obtaining a permit to investigate the Verboten Domain with his team as noted in #19 Proof of Founding. #19 Proof of Founding detailed the formation of the King’s Mage Brigade. They are a Blight research team from the mages of the coven led by Faden and closely followed by his assistant and lover, Miriel (from Faden’s memories + #47 Miriel’s Blighted Letter).

The Blight War – Faden’s Research

At some point during the early stage research time period, Faden discovered a piece of the ancient tablet, and he sent it off to his friend (from #54 Faden’s Letter). Also from #14 Forbidden Text Scrap it mentioned Artificial Life Creation (however, it is not entirely sure exactly who and when was this text surfaced, but for sure it was eventually put into use and created the clones or as players would call them “Lilies”). As per note #33 Slip of Paper, an executioner (presume to be Hoenir, from the mother side of Julius, more to this later) notice the Brigade regularly survey the Verboten Domain area and #34 Executioner's Missive mentioned prisoners (not sure if prisoners refers to normal individuals or blighted individuals, although it could be both) being handed to the Brigade as test subject. With those test subjects, Faden invented the Deathless Elixir (maybe also thanks to Miriel’s help as somewhat hinted from Faden’s memory), but in exchange Miriel was blighted.

Fedan hid Miriel away due to #34 Executioner's Missive where possible Blighted individuals would be sent away to become test subjects (while also probably fully knowing #7 Hamlet Request 2 that it is a crime to harbour any Blighted individuals). This led Faden’s research to only aim for finding a cure for Miriel (and side-tracked everything else that was meant for against the Blight). Countless human experiment was performed (also as witnessed by Silva, more to this later), as per #35 Report From a Verboten Mage they discovered some new finding regarding fusing lifeforms into one (which explains all those meat lumps enemies in Verboten Domain). Eventually those experiment result led Faden to develop the Fusion Lifeform technique and it was used for the Blight War, however Faden still failed to bring Miriel back and she ended up becoming the abomination who guarded his corpse until the very end. Near the time of his death, he wrote #68 Restoring the Aegis Curio.

The Blight War – Julius

Regarding Julius, in #58 ~ 60 Hoenir’s Diary mentions the king’s illegitimate son being born into a Dark Executioner family. After Hoenir’s sister gave birth to Julius she died and Julius was neglected by the king. Hoenir felt bad about Julius, thus Hoenir stole Julius from the king and hid him away as mentioned in #63 King’s Note 2. Hoenir raised Julius himself. As Julius grew up, he read Hoenir’s dairies and decided to train as a knight and managed to make his way back into the castle as the captain. He showed his frustration about the king somewhere within the castle based on #61 Writing on the Wall.

At some point, Faden invented the Deathless Elixir which allows one to become “immortal” while supposedly “retaining” their conscious. This led to #38 ~ 39 Bloodied Note 2 & 3 and #64 Julius’ Book where the knights drank the elixir to become the Immortal Knights and bested the Blight (saying bested is more appropriate here as they have yet to see the Rain of Death begins), though later we also read a soldier mentioned the conscious retention did not live up to as Faden’s advertised. With the further research on the Fusion Lifeform, this also led to many Immortal Knights to be fused with other animal parts to create a stronger Immortal Knight as seen within the Twin Spires areas. Although as much as Faden felt he defied the king however, much to the king’s delight, in #62 King’s Note 1 the king mentioned he was joyful to have obtained an army of Immortal Knights under his full control.

After the Blight War ended, Julius realized his mind and his ranks of knights ended up becoming undead slaves. With the last bit of his conscious, he confronted the king in the throne room (as shown in his memory cut-scene). The king told him the priestess and knights (very sure at this point the clone happened already as per #69 Prestess’ Castle Memo; and it is unlikely Julius would become the next king as he was not officially crowned, and probably at that point everyone are either dead or undead already) are merely disposable in the king’s quest for immortality. This drove Julius mad to kill the king due to the king’s response was a selfish ideal for himself but not caring for his son Julius.

The Blight War - Silva

Through #18 Adherent's Letter, Silva became 1 of the 10 guardians of the White Priestess (but in truth from #29 Silva’s Note 1, she wishes to protect Siegrid instead). While accompanying Fretia (whom as a child) and witnessing the Blight War (maybe from the beginning), they journeyed to many places to meet and saved a lot of individuals (namely all the bosses in the game). Eventually the Blight is also taking a toll on Fretia (from Silva’s memory). So Silva took Fretia to the laboratory in Verboten Domain in hope to find some cure for Fretia, but in #67 Silva’s Blight-Stained Note 2 and Silva’s memory, Silva quickly learned to find out the research laboratory only cared about experiments on human subjects (namely Faden tries to save Miriel) and perhaps creating artificial lifeform after the mentions of #14 Forbidden Text Scrap. Nevertheless, as the Blight War continues, some other times later Silva and Fretia were off to fight the Blight Lord as mentioned in #31 Unfinished Note. In #30 Silva’s Note 2, Silva was knockout during the fight. When she awoke, Fretia already purified the Blighted Lord and Silva felt she failed her part as the guardian. Nothing else said much about Silva afterwards, nor any materials mentioned why she stayed in the Catacombs (at the place where we fought her). With the Blight Lord gone (or more like contained within Fretia), the Blight War has ended.

The White Priestess of The Fount - Fretia

Some repeats from previous sections, but here is probably the juiciest part since Fretia is the one who connects everyone together, however maybe half of this are purely guesses as the notes and memories only told limited amount of stories.

Right off the bat, in #24 Fretia’s Memoirs 1, Fretia was born in a town by the cliffs and mentioned how her mother vanished the day she was born (presumable the White Priestess of The Wind was still alive at this point but not for very long). She always felt uncertain about her mother’s role, however many expected her to eventually inherit her mother's role; this was also most likely around the same time when Silva became Fretia’s guardian based on #20 The Next White Priestess. After her first purification (maybe Eleine’s mother in the Coven, as recollected from Eleine’s memory and Eleine witnessed the day when Fretia becomes the White Priestess of The Fount), Fretia came to realize the joy she can bring back to the people. This encouraged her to fully take up her mother’s role as the third priestess known as the White Priestess of The Fount as a child (from #25 Fretia’s Memoirs 2).

Faden, prior to becoming the leader of King’s Mage Brigade, witnessed the purification of Eleine’s mother, he then invited the young priestess to his lab near Verboten Domain and spend several days to gather samples from her and study the Blight, eventually he created the Deathless Elixir during the Blight War. With the Blight War outbreak (as per #7 Hamlet Request 1 to recruit warriors to help fight the Blight in the forest area), Fretia escaped from Verboten Domain and exited through the east side (west side is forest area) and stumbled upon Hoenir. With the Blight enemies chasing them, they both escaped into the Execution Ground (from Hoenir’s memory where Fretia is teen figure and just became Fount). Later Fretia made her way back and was invited to live within the castle (presumably the White Priestess of The Wind died at this point). From #36 White Priestess’ Bastion Letter, she met Julius and made friends with Ulv.

With the ongoing Blight War, many drank the Deathless Elixir and together with Fretia and Silva they defended the Twin Spires (#38 Bloodied Note 2 and #22 Defence of The Twin Spires 2). Some soldiers were even fused with animal parts to become a stronger warrior through the Fusion Lifeform technique from Faden. However, this puts a lot more stress on Fretia. Eventually Silva sent a letter to her sister Siegrid mentioning Fretia's poor health (seen from Siegrid's memory) and brought Fretia to the laboratory for the second time in hope to find some cure for Fretia. Sadly as Silva's memories showed the researchers only cared about human experiment and nothing for Fretia (namely cure for Miriel). Soon later the Artificial Life Creation succeeded. Several Lilies clone from Fretia were created with the very first clone being sent to the king’s side (at some point before he was assassinated) as mentioned in #69 Priestess’ Castle Memo. Whereas the rest are spread out to the kingdom to help purify any Blight. With the little Lilies, Deathless Elixir, and Fusion Lifeform, the defenders were able to hold back the Blight and gave time for Fretia to enter Verboten Domain with Silva to challenge the Blight Lord. Of course, she succeeded in purifying the Blight Lord and together with Silva they ended the Blight War.

Fretia made her trip back to the coven where she reunited with Eleina. This event was noted in #55 ~ 57 Eleine’s Diary, another note here is the mention on Fretia’s heirloom embedded with a magic stone, to which it was broke when Fretia purified the Blight Lord. Fretia asked Eleine to restore it, but Eleine do not know how. This instead led Fretia to request Eleine to make the heirloom into amulets using the broken magic stone. With that aside, Fretia later collapsed or went into a coma (as shown from Fretia’s memories in the cut-scene). And then either:

- Seeing how Eleine really cherish her time spent with Fretia and owing her mother's life to Fretia, Eleine (maybe also with the help of Faden + the coven) created 8 Lily clones to perform that sacrifice ritual for Fretia.
OR
- The king sees that there are still uses from Fretia so he demand the coven to create 8 Lily clones to perform that sacrifice ritual for Fretia.

In a brief moment when Fretia awoke, she realizes how her pain and suffering will have to be passing onto the newly 8 Lily clones whom were made just to be sacrificed. Fretia felt sorry about the new clones (as seen from Fretia's memory). Nevertheless, the ritual succeeded and Fretia returns to the ground and continues her work as the White Priestess of The Fount. One day from the villagers’ request to purify a Blight living in a shack, Fretia and 1 Lily discovered the deathless Gerrord lying there. However much to Gerrord’s wish, he did not want both of them to take on his suffering and refused to be purified (this part is seen from Gerrord’s memory, and in the scene Gerrord mentioned the Blight War ended and we see Fretia as the White Priestess of The Fount looking unblighted, which suggests the sacrificing ritual was performed, and no they did not purified Gerrord or else the player would have never fought him).

Now this upcoming part is pure guesses, as there are nothing that documented how the Rain of Death really began and how Fretia made her way back into the Abyss aside from 2 notes from Fretia + a statement she said in ending A

As Lily clones continue to help, the kingdom people and the king sees less need of Fretia as the White Priestess of The Fount. The king also pressured her to be wed and birth a royal successor as hinted from #27 Fretia’s Memoirs 4. However, she refused and escaped deep into the Abyss. Eventually she grew tired of the people and the king for treating her as a tool and a useless one that is (or maybe her Umbral Knight told her about the history or something that triggered the hatred within her), and as “hatred is the vilest Blight. Unaffected by purification it festers, rotting one from within.”, Fretia became the new Blight Lord (as maybe suggested from #28 Fretia’s Memoirs 5, the giant red flower blooming right at the end of Fretia’s memory, and in ending A where she stated these are her doings). The Rain of Death began.

Extra note:
- In case you wonder why it is call the Rain of Death, it was mentioned from Siegrid's memory

The Last Lily

As per Fretia’s request, Eleine created the amulet out of Fretia’s broken magic stone and bestow it to all of the little Lilies. And as the Rain of Death began, all the guardians wield their weapon to protect the little Lilies and many had fallen ill once again. Seeing how the Blight is making another return, Faden in his final moments continued his research regarding the stone tablet. However, knowing how his time is also approaching (probably also why the laboratory could not massively create anymore clones due to everyone are pretty much dead, or thanks to Miriel for blocking it), he wrote the note #68 Restoring the Aegis Curio and created the last clone; shortly afterwards he died. He hid the last clone deep within the church and far away from the king where Siegrid stationed (of course Eleine knew about this too). This was mentioned in #70 Lily’s Note that Siegrid and her Lily knows of the last clone's presence. As for Eleine, in #2 Eleine’s Letter asked Siegrid to give that amulet to the last clone. With the White Priestess of The Fount nowhere to be found, they all relied on the little Lilies to purify them. However, the magic within the stone were long before used up, eventually all the Lilies either died from the overwhelming pain, overworked, starvation, or some natural death (certainty all the Lily corpses we came across looks unblighted). Together with the king's assassination by Julius, the kingdom fully collapsed (remember Julius was not officially crowned, so he could not take up the command or even let alone does he even have any conscious left at that point). As per #68 Restoring the Aegis Curio, it details an ancient spell that only-the-ancients-know (a.k.a. the last Umbral Knight) that can restore the power of the Aegis Curio. As to what the Aegis Curio is? That would be the Heirloom of Land’s End that got passed down from the White Priestess of The Dawn to the White Priestess of The Wind and then to her daughter Fretia, and eventually broken into pieces and made into amulets by Eleine to the little Lilies, and the last piece went to the last clone. The rest follows with the player’s playthrough where it began with the Umbral Knight calling out the last clone to fulfil his Deathless Pact.

Extra note:
- It remains a mystery why the Umbral Knight asked the last clone whether she remembers anything or not when he awakened her. Although in some way perhaps the Umbral Knight might have saw Fretia and the clone Lilies as one entity altogether, or maybe the last clone was initially given some task to fulfil but it was not the right time yet when she was initially created (such as waiting until Faden figured out the ancient tablet and then awake her... of course he did not succeed).
- The 8 Lilies spirits you see during the final true boss battle is perhaps akin to you taking on all 8 Lilies’ identities to live on inside you and to fulfil the wishes that they could not complete (sounds familiar to some manga setting?)
- In ending C, that is the grown up last Lily (you), Fretia passed away for real after being purified.

[El_Verdugo]

wow i didnt read it anything to not get spoiled but tthere are some stuff i dont get yet at the story so after finishing the game i will use this as a guide thanks!

[Nya]

Originally posted by El_Verdugo:

wow i didnt read it anything to not get spoiled but tthere are some stuff i dont get yet at the story so after finishing the game i will use this as a guide thanks!

Would be great when you finish the game and give this a read. Since no one replied, its hard to assess how accurate this had been written

[ScorchedVanilla]

Originally posted by Nya:

Originally posted by El_Verdugo:

wow i didnt read it anything to not get spoiled but tthere are some stuff i dont get yet at the story so after finishing the game i will use this as a guide thanks!

Would be great when you finish the game and give this a read. Since no one replied, its hard to assess how accurate this had been written

I can vouch for the legitimacy of this guy's plot explanation and recap as ive just finish 100% the map and collectibles and read through all the notes(i didnt get level 100 yet cause i would need to run through the domain at least 20 times to get the exp needed to level the last 6 levels)

[Nya]

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

Originally posted by Nya:

Would be great when you finish the game and give this a read. Since no one replied, its hard to assess how accurate this had been written

I can vouch for the legitimacy of this guy's plot explanation and recap as ive just finish 100% the map and collectibles and read through all the notes(i didnt get level 100 yet cause i would need to run through the domain at least 20 times to get the exp needed to level the last 6 levels)

thanks, also those flying fish in the last room before the final boss gives pretty good exp and easy to kill once you learn their timing.

[❛❛Vénttea❜❜]

I think I could add some lore to this though this is speculation on my part.
Mind you, I honestly did forget most of what happened in the game, so I am trying to piece this together from memory and some cutscenes. I will probably add something once I remember or learned more.

1. Silva is among the blighted that must be quarantined into the catacombs. Anyone that is Blighted goes to the catacombs and closed off Most likely occurred at the First Blight War in Verboten Domain where she could get infected. The catacomb chaos most likely happened during the beginning of the Second Blight War or in between the post-First and pre-Second. #Hamlet Request II

Also the catacombs is a place to train new Guardian's to protect the White Priestesses. Only 10 candidates were selected. Most likely this happened before the first or second Blight War. #Adherent's Letter.

2. The White Priestess is most likely in the stockade because she is on her way to stop the Blight Lord with Siegrid #Unfinished Note.

Hoenir and the executioners are the final stand against the Blight as she descends down to face off the Blight Lord in the Verboten Domain. #Speculative based on cutscene.

3. The Aegis Curio broke after the she purified the Blight Lord (and it was used too many times), because of this she is susceptible to being Blighted. The reason why Fretia is in Verboten Domain is because it is ground zero for the Blight Lord and thus she is quarantined there for the safety of others and the King's quest for immortality.

Eleine wanted to restore the Aegis Curio for Fretia.
Faden wanted to decipher the stone tablet which lead to the restoration of the Aegis Curio for Fretia and at Eleine's request. #Eleine's Diary I and II #Faden's Letter

4. The 8 Lilies were most likely created to deal with the Blight in place of Fretia, because Fretia after all is already heavily Blighted. With the Aegis Curio no longer around, the 8 clones become a living Aegis Curio to cure the Blight because there is no permanent solution without the power of the Heirloom. So the cloning is the final resort because nothing can replace Fretia with her magic and the Aegis Curio. This most likely happened in the post-First Blight War and pre-Second Blight War.

5. Fretia didn't become blighted because of hate. Julius however did become blighted out of hate. Fretia is just too blighted and each passing day her powers to hold off the blight in her body weakens. Eventually with time, it took over and she became the new Blight Lord.

6. The Last Umbral Knight most likely left the Verboten Domain with the Last clone. He probably no longer has a physical body and becomes the watchful guardian of the last Lily with Siegrid and the 8th Lily, as she is in a deep slumber for several years.

Note: Regarding the Baby in the Last Umbral Knight, I cannot confirm.[/b]

[Nya]

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

1. Silva is among the blighted that must be quarantined into the catacombs. Anyone that is Blighted goes to the catacombs and closed off Most likely occurred at the First Blight War in Verboten Domain where she could get infected. The catacomb chaos most likely happened during the beginning of the Second Blight War or in between the post-First and pre-Second. #Hamlet Request II

Also the catacombs is a place to train new Guardian's to protect the White Priestesses. Only 10 candidates were selected. Most likely this happened before the first or second Blight War. #Adherent's Letter.

To think Silva is blighted or to train new guardian hmm interesting idea. But how did you inferred there were 2 Blight Wars occurred?

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

2. The White Priestess is most likely in the stockade because she is on her way to stop the Blight Lord with Siegrid #Unfinished Note.

Hoenir and the executioners are the final stand against the Blight as she descends down to face off the Blight Lord in the Verboten Domain. #Speculative based on cutscene.

If you were referring to Hoenir's memory cut-scene, the biggest problem is how to guess Fretia's age. But certainty she looked unblighted and maybe argue that she look more like a teen than a grown up woman, hence why our interpretations are different here.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

3. The Aegis Curio broke after the she purified the Blight Lord (and it was used too many times), because of this she is susceptible to being Blighted. The reason why Fretia is in Verboten Domain is because it is ground zero for the Blight Lord and thus she is quarantined there for the safety of others and the King's quest for immortality.

Think it was mentioned in 1 of the note that the white priestess is naturally resistant to blight. And the other note by Eleine mentioning how Fretia came back after purifying the Blight Lord, it may appear that Fretia stayed in the coven instead of in the laboratory (maybe in that locked room in the coven map that you have to open with Faden's power).

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Eleine wanted to restore the Aegis Curio for Fretia.
Faden wanted to decipher the stone tablet which lead to the restoration of the Aegis Curio for Fretia and at Eleine's request. #Eleine's Diary I and II #Faden's Letter

Pretty sure it was Fretia who requested Eleine to restore it, it was not initiated with Eleine (at least from how the note was written). And pretty sure Faden found the tablet at the beginning since he mentioned he didnt want other mages to catch wind of it nor the king to know about it (and we all know the king got assassinated by the near end).

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

4. The 8 Lilies were most likely created to deal with the Blight in place of Fretia, because Fretia after all is already heavily Blighted. With the Aegis Curio no longer around, the 8 clones become a living Aegis Curio to cure the Blight because there is no permanent solution without the power of the Heirloom. So the cloning is the final resort because nothing can replace Fretia with her magic and the Aegis Curio. This most likely happened in the post-First Blight War and pre-Second Blight War.

The remaining question is, exactly how many clones were created? Ingame map we found 8, but in Fretia's memory during that ritual there is another 8. But judging by how Fretia said those 8 in the ritual were created just to be sacrifice (presumable they died right away after the ritual), so there might had been 16? Got to take note that the 8 we found ingame looks fairly... unblighted, so if those 8 Lilies on ground level been purifying stuff, shouldnt they look all blighted and stuff on their corpses?

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

5. Fretia didn't become blighted because of hate. Julius however did become blighted out of hate. Fretia is just too blighted and each passing day her powers to hold off the blight in her body weakens. Eventually with time, it took over and she became the new Blight Lord.

That part about Fretia becoming blight due to hate was perhaps a far fetch argument, but from her note stating how she felt like she outlived her usefulness and being considered to birth some royal child (with her also saying no) it may sound as if someone (perhaps the king?) is pressuring her to do something she did not want and drove her off to hiding? During which she might be re-thinking about what her stance towards the kingdom is (whether she is a saviour or just merely a disposable tool for other's selfish needs).

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

6. The Last Umbral Knight most likely left the Verboten Domain with the Last clone. He probably no longer has a physical body and becomes the watchful guardian of the last Lily with Siegrid and the 8th Lily, as she is in a deep slumber for several years.

Speaking of which tho... should Fretia be considered dead all along up until player meets her? If Fretia was not dead, then why the Umbral Knight seek out to the last clone \ the player? Would kinda doubt Fretia knows about the last clone, or although maybe Fretia wishes her knight to protect whatever remaining clones (since she felt bad for the 8 who sacrificed for her during the ritual)?

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Note: Regarding the Baby in the Last Umbral Knight, I cannot confirm.[/b]

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Pretty sure that cut-scene happened way back during the "this soon-to-be-king guy" invading the ancient people's Land's End part. Seeing how Julius freshly killed the king and assuming that king is the invader, then based on everyone's age it is very likely that the baby girl is the White Priestess of The Dawn. Although this argument could be counter with several generations of the kingdom, and the White Priestess of The Dawn could be just a descendant of a several generation of that baby girl.

[❛❛Vénttea❜❜]

Ouf this is going to be a long quote chain but here we go.

Originally posted by Nya:

To think Silva is blighted or to train new guardian hmm interesting idea. But how did you inferred there were 2 Blight Wars occurred?

I assumed there were two because they defeated the First Blight Lord, hence temporarily stopping the Blight outbreak and ended the Blight War. The Second Blight War most likely happened Fretia became the new Blight Lord with freshly new blighted from the immortal soldiers. However the period between the two is rather short. Although the "Second Outbreak" would've more sense.

Originally posted by Nya:

If you were referring to Hoenir's memory cut-scene, the biggest problem is how to guess Fretia's age. But certainty she looked unblighted and maybe argue that she look more like a teen than a grown up woman, hence why our interpretations are different here.

At the time she also had the Aegis Curio, hence why she is most likely unblighted. If she is young, then it definitely took place long before the 9th Clone.

Originally posted by Nya:

Think it was mentioned in 1 of the note that the white priestess is naturally resistant to blight. And the other note by Eleine mentioning how Fretia came back after purifying the Blight Lord, it may appear that Fretia stayed in the coven instead of in the laboratory (maybe in that locked room in the coven map that you have to open with Faden's power).

They naturally resistant to the blight, hence why they cannot be blighted as easily. Purifying a blight gradually degrades their resistant. It's one of the reason why the 9th Clone is becoming more and more blighted each time she purifies the Guardians. Not to mention at Ending B, her purifying Fretia could ultimately make her a Blight given how weakened she has become.

Fretia during the time after the Blight Lord is blighted but no heavy blighted. So she is able to roam about freely like meeting Gerrod, hanging with Eleine and hearing the successor back talk. It is later that she isolated herself of her own volition when she gradually becomes more blighted and weak.

Originally posted by Nya:

Pretty sure it was Fretia who requested Eleine to restore it, it was not initiated with Eleine (at least from how the note was written). And pretty sure Faden found the tablet at the beginning since he mentioned he didnt want other mages to catch wind of it nor the king to know about it (and we all know the king got assassinated by the near end).

Fretia given the Amulet to Eleine as a gift first hand and Eleine wanted to repair it with Faden. (Diary 2)
It was after some passing time that Fretia requested to Eleine to fix it (Diary 3).

As for Faden with the stone. He must have found it at some point in time. His letter is most likely collaborated to Eleine since they're the only two trying to restore the Aegis Curio and most likely sent the tablet to Eleine to see if she could decipher it.

Originally posted by Nya:

The remaining question is, exactly how many clones were created? Ingame map we found 8, but in Fretia's memory during that ritual there is another 8. But judging by how Fretia said those 8 in the ritual were created just to be sacrifice (presumable they died right away after the ritual), so there might had been 16? Got to take note that the 8 we found ingame looks fairly... unblighted, so if those 8 Lilies on ground level been purifying stuff, shouldnt they look all blighted and stuff on their corpses?

The thought crossed my mind, it could be that they only purified the few or the lesser blighted and the work load is shared among the 8. Lily purified a good amount of great or greater blights in the course of her journey with little rest. She does not have the luxury and ease of workload compared to the 8. Then again they probably don't have enough time to purify as many blighted as they should since the second outbreak happened really fast.

That said, there is only 8 clones that died and 8 of their spirits are lingering. Although the the death of said clones is left to interpretation as it could be that they died from starvation, killed or something else entirely. If they were to die after the ritual, it would be hard to explain why they died in 8 different locations instead of the one. Still unsure whether the 8 remaining guardians were tasked with protecting each clones or not.

Originally posted by Nya:

That part about Fretia becoming blight due to hate was perhaps a far fetch argument, but from her note stating how she felt like she outlived her usefulness and being considered to birth some royal child (with her also saying no) it may sound as if someone (perhaps the king?) is pressuring her to do something she did not want and drove her off to hiding? During which she might be re-thinking about what her stance towards the kingdom is (whether she is a saviour or just merely a disposable tool for other's selfish needs).

Sorry but I looked through the memoirs and I don't see her writing that she thinks she is a disposable tool. She is aware of the pressure of them wanting another White Priestess, though I doubt both those things is enough for her to re-think her stance given she is already committed to dealing with the blight.

Originally posted by Nya:

Speaking of which tho... should Fretia be considered dead all along up until player meets her? If Fretia was not dead, then why the Umbral Knight seek out to the last clone \ the player? Would kinda doubt Fretia knows about the last clone, or although maybe Fretia wishes her knight to protect whatever remaining clones (since she felt bad for the 8 who sacrificed for her during the ritual)?

It is unclear whether or not she is aware of how many clones we made. She is aware of only 8 because 8 died and became spirits. The Last Umbral Knight is bound by a pact to protect the white priestesses in Land's Edge. Which means he has to seek out the 9th clone because she is technically the last living White Priestess.

As to whether Fretia is dead or alive this whole time is tough to say because she is blighted, as they are living in spirit but dead outside.

Originally posted by Nya:

Pretty sure that cut-scene happened way back during the "this soon-to-be-king guy" invading the ancient people's Land's End part. Seeing how Julius freshly killed the king and assuming that king is the invader, then based on everyone's age it is very likely that the baby girl is the White Priestess of The Dawn. Although this argument could be counter with several generations of the kingdom, and the White Priestess of The Dawn could be just a descendant of a several generation of that baby girl.

I probably will refute my stance on this since I am unsure. You can be right that this is the beginning of Land's Edge and the birth of the Dawn Priestess with the Last Umbral Knight.

[Nya]

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Originally posted by Nya:

To think Silva is blighted or to train new guardian hmm interesting idea. But how did you inferred there were 2 Blight Wars occurred?

I assumed there were two because they defeated the First Blight Lord, hence temporarily stopping the Blight outbreak and ended the Blight War. The Second Blight War most likely happened Fretia became the new Blight Lord with freshly new blighted from the immortal soldiers. However the period between the two is rather short. Although the "Second Outbreak" would've more sense.

Oh ok, so you called it the 2nd Blight War, Nya only wrote it as the Rain of Death began and assumed the kingdom stood absolutely no chance against it since the king was assassinated.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Originally posted by Nya:

Think it was mentioned in 1 of the note that the white priestess is naturally resistant to blight. And the other note by Eleine mentioning how Fretia came back after purifying the Blight Lord, it may appear that Fretia stayed in the coven instead of in the laboratory (maybe in that locked room in the coven map that you have to open with Faden's power).

They naturally resistant to the blight, hence why they cannot be blighted as easily. Purifying a blight gradually degrades their resistant. It's one of the reason why the 9th Clone is becoming more and more blighted each time she purifies the Guardians. Not to mention at Ending B, her purifying Fretia could ultimately make her a Blight given how weakened she has become.

Fretia during the time after the Blight Lord is blighted but no heavy blighted. So she is able to roam about freely like meeting Gerrod, hanging with Eleine and hearing the successor back talk. It is later that she isolated herself of her own volition when she gradually becomes more blighted and weak.

If you look at Silva's memory you can see Fretia is very blighted and barely able to stand. Silva also mentioned the laboratory was doing experiments on human at that time, which implies it was during the Blight War and most likely around the time they working on the Fusion Lifeform (around or after the invention of Deathless Elixir and before they went against Blight Lord). But in Gerrord's memory, Fretia was grown up (Gerrord even commented about it) and looking fully unblighted. Gerrord also mentioned he drank the Deathless Elixir for the Blight War and returned to his village after the Blight War ended. As for Eleine, in #55 ~ 56 Eleine's Diary 1 & 2 mentioned Fretia was so blighted (presumably after purifying the Blight Lord) that she was bedridden and people quarantined her as if like a test subject for experiment (and of course it was bad enough that they had to wear mask before entering Fretia's room). So with all of these together it may suggest the ordering was Silva's memory -> Eleine's note -> ritual -> Gerrord's memory.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Originally posted by Nya:

Pretty sure it was Fretia who requested Eleine to restore it, it was not initiated with Eleine (at least from how the note was written). And pretty sure Faden found the tablet at the beginning since he mentioned he didnt want other mages to catch wind of it nor the king to know about it (and we all know the king got assassinated by the near end).

Fretia given the Amulet to Eleine as a gift first hand and Eleine wanted to repair it with Faden. (Diary 2)
It was after some passing time that Fretia requested to Eleine to fix it (Diary 3).

As for Faden with the stone. He must have found it at some point in time. His letter is most likely collaborated to Eleine since they're the only two trying to restore the Aegis Curio and most likely sent the tablet to Eleine to see if she could decipher it.

But Faden's note about the tablet we found it hidden in the basement of a shack and that should be the first one we obtained since it was blocked by a barrier that can be destroy by Julius dash attack (before we obtained Faden's power to open locked doors). Nya would doubt Eleine knows about the tablet.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Originally posted by Nya:

The remaining question is, exactly how many clones were created? Ingame map we found 8, but in Fretia's memory during that ritual there is another 8. But judging by how Fretia said those 8 in the ritual were created just to be sacrifice (presumable they died right away after the ritual), so there might had been 16? Got to take note that the 8 we found ingame looks fairly... unblighted, so if those 8 Lilies on ground level been purifying stuff, shouldnt they look all blighted and stuff on their corpses?

The thought crossed my mind, it could be that they only purified the few or the lesser blighted and the work load is shared among the 8. Lily purified a good amount of great or greater blights in the course of her journey with little rest. She does not have the luxury and ease of workload compared to the 8. Then again they probably don't have enough time to purify as many blighted as they should since the second outbreak happened really fast.

That said, there is only 8 clones that died and 8 of their spirits are lingering. Although the the death of said clones is left to interpretation as it could be that they died from starvation, killed or something else entirely. If they were to die after the ritual, it would be hard to explain why they died in 8 different locations instead of the one. Still unsure whether the 8 remaining guardians were tasked with protecting each clones or not.

Hence why Nya suspected there might be 16 clones. Its not quite convincing if it was 8 to start and to end especially after they took the blight from Fretia and might had to keep working up until the Rain of Death began and still looking fully unblighted.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Originally posted by Nya:

That part about Fretia becoming blight due to hate was perhaps a far fetch argument, but from her note stating how she felt like she outlived her usefulness and being considered to birth some royal child (with her also saying no) it may sound as if someone (perhaps the king?) is pressuring her to do something she did not want and drove her off to hiding? During which she might be re-thinking about what her stance towards the kingdom is (whether she is a saviour or just merely a disposable tool for other's selfish needs).

Sorry but I looked through the memoirs and I don't see her writing that she thinks she is a disposable tool. She is aware of the pressure of them wanting another White Priestess, though I doubt both those things is enough for her to re-think her stance given she is already committed to dealing with the blight.

# 27 Fretia's Memoirs 4 mentioned birthing a royal successor (so this is quite apparent the king wants to wed her and treat her as a birthing machine? and in #63 King's Note 2, it is also clear that the king wants a successor to his throne) and feeling she outlived her usefulness. In Julius's memory, the king's response was "the knight and priestess were disposable...", although this could be referring to the Lilies and not Fretia... but nevertheless the kingdom probably sees no need for Fretia to continue serving as the White Priestess of The Fount anymore, and so Fretia becomes an average woman and getting all the average woman treatment (per-se to birth someone's child?).

[❛❛Vénttea❜❜]

Originally posted by Nya:

Oh ok, so you called it the 2nd Blight War, Nya only wrote it as the Rain of Death began and assumed the kingdom stood absolutely no chance against it since the king was assassinated.

Even with the King alive, the kingdom stood no chance anyway. Too many immortals immediately became blighted.

Originally posted by Nya:

If you look at Silva's memory you can see Fretia is very blighted and barely able to stand. Silva also mentioned the laboratory was doing experiments on human at that time, which implies it was during the Blight War and most likely around the time they working on the Fusion Lifeform (around or after the invention of Deathless Elixir and before they went against Blight Lord). But in Gerrord's memory, Fretia was grown up (Gerrord even commented about it) and looking fully unblighted. Gerrord also mentioned he drank the Deathless Elixir for the Blight War and returned to his village after the Blight War ended. As for Eleine, in #55 ~ 56 Eleine's Diary 1 & 2 mentioned Fretia was so blighted (presumably after purifying the Blight Lord) that she was bedridden and people quarantined her as if like a test subject for experiment (and of course it was bad enough that they had to wear mask before entering Fretia's room). So with all of these together it may suggest the ordering was Silva's memory -> Eleine's note -> ritual -> Gerrord's memory.

I thought the person in Silva's memory is one of the nuns of the catacombs. The dress and face doesn't look like Fretia at all.

The Mask is warranted though. Her room is in the Verboten Domain, a blight infested area that even Faden and the Mage Brigade must wear it to enter.

As for the experiments, only 2 took place. The experiments on the prisoners to which lead to the creation of the deathless elixir and Fretia and possibly more prisoners/people which leads to the creation of the clones.

Originally posted by Nya:

But Faden's note about the tablet we found it hidden in the basement of a shack and that should be the first one we obtained since it was blocked by a barrier that can be destroy by Julius dash attack (before we obtained Faden's power to open locked doors). Nya would doubt Eleine knows about the tablet.

Except, Eleine has one of the stone tablets in her room from where we found it. After all there are 7 tablets and Faden probably given one to Eleine to decipher it from prying eyes and has yet to find the rest. Also he has no time to decipher it himself since he is preoccupied by something else.

Originally posted by Nya:

Hence why Nya suspected there might be 16 clones. Its not quite convincing if it was 8 to start and to end especially after they took the blight from Fretia and might had to keep working up until the Rain of Death began and still looking fully unblighted.

As I mentioned they probably died too early to do any real priestess work and the outbreak happened too fast to counter and they most likely cured the lesser blight. I don't think the rain would affect them as much since they are resistant to it.

The 8 main bosses we encountered are a whole new level of blight on its own, that's why each purification is damaging the 9th clone each time. Guess the theory of the 16 clones is possible, alas we can never confirm it as 8 clones and 8 spirits were shown in the entire game.

Originally posted by Nya:

# 27 Fretia's Memoirs 4 mentioned birthing a royal successor (so this is quite apparent the king wants to wed her and treat her as a birthing machine? and in #63 King's Note 2, it is also clear that the king wants a successor to his throne) and feeling she outlived her usefulness. In Julius's memory, the king's response was "the knight and priestess were disposable...", although this could be referring to the Lilies and not Fretia... but nevertheless the kingdom probably sees no need for Fretia to continue serving as the White Priestess of The Fount anymore, and so Fretia becomes an average woman and getting all the average woman treatment (per-se to birth someone's child?).

The King is an interesting case. The Kingdom itself still sees Fretia very relevant but the King himself doesn't see the White Priestess and Knights as relevant, since they replaceable as you said and just cannon fodder for him to stay alive. It was never about their usefulness, it's that they're useful enough to be replaced once they're gone. Like how a General will send 100 men to die in battle because 100 more will take their place, high ranking officers included.

[Nya]

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Even with the King alive, the kingdom stood no chance anyway. Too many immortals immediately became blighted.

Always thought the immortal knight would retain nothing but only 1 specific conscious which would be based on their strongest memory, but then to think of blighting an immortal knight is like doubling down on it; wonders what kinds of implication it can play in the story.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

I thought the person in Silva's memory is one of the nuns of the catacombs. The dress and face doesn't look like Fretia at all.

The Mask is warranted though. Her room is in the Verboten Domain, a blight infested area that even Faden and the Mage Brigade must wear it to enter.

As for the experiments, only 2 took place. The experiments on the prisoners to which lead to the creation of the deathless elixir and Fretia and possibly more prisoners/people which leads to the creation of the clones.

Given how Silva is already Fretia's guardian and from what Silva said in the cut-scene (+ maybe the notes) it is highly likely the blighted woman is indeed Fretia.

As for the experiment, very sure Fusion Lifeform happened (so there were 3 things), there was a note that talked about it, and well or else you would not be able to explain all those centaurs, gargoyle, meat lump enemies, and Miriel.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

Except, Eleine has one of the stone tablets in her room from where we found it. After all there are 7 tablets and Faden probably given one to Eleine to decipher it from prying eyes and has yet to find the rest. Also he has no time to decipher it himself since he is preoccupied by something else.

But also except the rest of the 6 tablets are locked behind a door only Faden can open, and those room might perhaps be Faden's personal room?

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

The 8 main bosses we encountered are a whole new level of blight on its own, that's why each purification is damaging the 9th clone each time. Guess the theory of the 16 clones is possible, alas we can never confirm it as 8 clones and 8 spirits were shown in the entire game.

Also hard to say did the laboratory created even more clone after the Blight War, there are very little material and sources for that time period.

Originally posted by ❛❛Liechée❜❜:

The King is an interesting case. The Kingdom itself still sees Fretia very relevant but the King himself doesn't see the White Priestess and Knights as relevant, since they replaceable as you said and just cannon fodder for him to stay alive. It was never about their usefulness, it's that they're useful enough to be replaced once they're gone. Like how a General will send 100 men to die in battle because 100 more will take their place, high ranking officers included.

Or if the little Lilies are disposable, then well when cloning Fretia does it require something like literally cutting off a piece of her to do so? That would be very painful if Fretia has to keep letting herself be use like that (although this is just a wild guess, so it could be call ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ here).

[ScorchedVanilla]

yea so im not going to do that giant quote chain but i will note that what im about to say is from memory and interpetations from myself on this

• 1. there were 17 clones with the first 8 being used at the end of the blight war to keep fretia alive and the next 8 being the dead ones we find and the last being lily who took her name from the one clone we find in the cathedral attic
  
  
• 2. faden was looking for a method to help fretia's burden during and after the blight war however due to mirel becoming blighted and allowed the production of the deathless elixir from her sacrifice faden became unstable and as a result lost his original purpose of reducing the burden on fretia's purification and became obsessed with attempting to reviving mirel which explains why veldom domain has all those abominations
  
  
• 3. the king was a PoS and the sole reason why the rain of death had begun not long after fretia's "treatment" as he wanted a royal heir from fretia who had no desire to give birth which drove her into the abyss where the blight she had taken upon herself after the amulet had broken began to gnaw at her very existence which spawned the flowers of blight and purification we see throughout the game followed by the rain of death
  
  
• 4. the deathless elixir that had been created from mirel's sacrifice had essences of blight within however faden overtime added his lifeform fusion into the elixir which gave physical enhancements but once the rain of death started to fall mutations started to occur with those who had taken the modified elixir which is why as we go further in the story theres more abominations than blighted human soldiers and the loss of sanity becoming more apparent over time with fadens alterations of the elixir
  
  
• 5. the umbra knight we see in the cutscene is one who swore the deathless pact to the priestess of wind who would pass it down to fretia who then passed it down to lily as they were of the same lineage despite being a clone of fretia as a security measure in the event the current priestess of white wouldnt be able to purify the blightlord completely
  
  
• 6. hoenrir was fiercely loyal to fretia and the clones even when he was blighted he stood to guard both the clone's body and the entrance to the domain but prior to that he had took pity of julius and took him in to be trained as a knight who would become knight captain
  
  
• 7. the blight war itself was being kept at bay originally by the priestesses of white and ancients however as it began to escalate as the amulet had started to wane in power and faden being unable to decipher the stone tablets in time which resulted in both the creation of the deathless elixir and clones which of the former was what it led to mass destruction of the kingdom and latter which would bring the end of the blightlord for good
  
  
• 8. silva and siegried both became guardians of fretia during the blight war and after the rain of death started silva had sent away siegried as under the guise of protecting a clone however it was to protect her from the deathless elixir had started to create mutations amongst those who drank it specifically the ones altered by faden with lifeform fusion

[Nya]

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

4. the deathless elixir that had been created from mirel's sacrifice had essences of blight within however faden overtime added his lifeform fusion into the elixir which gave physical enhancements but once the rain of death started to fall mutations started to occur with those who had taken the modified elixir which is why as we go further in the story theres more abominations than blighted human soldiers and the loss of sanity becoming more apparent over time with fadens alterations of the elixir

Would still say the immortal knight only ends up retaining nothing but one specific conscious and that would be the 1 thing they felt the most strongly about (such as their sworn duty to guard someone).

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

5. the umbra knight we see in the cutscene is one who swore the deathless pact to the priestess of wind who would pass it down to fretia who then passed it down to lily as they were of the same lineage despite being a clone of fretia as a security measure in the event the current priestess of white wouldnt be able to purify the blightlord completely

You do mean the White Priestess of The Dawn? It may have been some peaceful time when the king established Land's End as his kingdom before the Blight War arrived as we seen from the prologue cutscene.

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

6. hoenrir was fiercely loyal to fretia and the clones even when he was blighted he stood to guard both the clone's body and the entrance to the domain but prior to that he had took pity of julius and took him in to be trained as a knight who would become knight captain

You can tell he even double down with all those mines and barriers on the path to the Verboten Domain and all those mines in the water tunnel.

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

8. silva and siegried both became guardians of fretia during the blight war and after the rain of death started silva had sent away siegried as under the guise of protecting a clone however it was to protect her from the deathless elixir had started to create mutations amongst those who drank it specifically the ones altered by faden with lifeform fusion

You know what is even more interesting? How and why Siegrid and Silva are the only 2 bosses that actually transform in their 3rd phrase (and well their moveset also changed), whereas the rest did not (Eleine kinda did a little bit too, but not as drastic and her moveset remained roughly the same with only new tricks added). Would like to know some possible explanation behind it tho.

[ScorchedVanilla]

• immortal knights were yes still dedicated to their roles however they no longer retain an ego say for julius, hoenrir, and gerrot who were powerful individuals originally, it does not mean the other minibosses like the headless knight or the one that gives the slam with a greatsword knight were mindless as they were just a step below of the three listed above
  
  
• the priestess of dawn was established before the kingdom but was not seen too often during that time as there were other religions that outnumbered the white parish prior to the blight war that ended up being wiped out by the blight, however the priestess of dawn did not have children and had a successor which was the priestess of wind who attempted to take out the blight lord and failed, but prior to that she had forged the deathless pact with the umbra knight to care for fretia her child that should she fail her duty to purify the blight completely that he would protect her descendants during their purification journeys too until the task is complete which is why in ending A the umbra knight stays behind to hold back the blight and await the next priestess after lily
  
  
• while they were able to retain their human forms intially as the rain of death did not fall on them too much, they had gone mad from the amount of kills they had to prevent passage of others as with siegrid she had to protect lily the 17th clone from all that would harm her while silva was left to guard the entrance of the execution grounds so that hoenrir would not be overburdened by the amount of blighted that would come and the other nuns as seen in the catherdral route the attic and catacombs their transformation was similar to the phase 3 form of both siegrid and silva but smaller as they were not direct guardians of the fretia not held the same amount of power they both had

[Nya]

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

the priestess of dawn was established before the kingdom but was not seen too often during that time as there were other religions that outnumbered the white parish prior to the blight war that ended up being wiped out by the blight, however the priestess of dawn did not have children and had a successor which was the priestess of wind who attempted to take out the blight lord and failed, but prior to that she had forged the deathless pact with the umbra knight to care for fretia her child that should she fail her duty to purify the blight completely that he would protect her descendants during their purification journeys too until the task is complete which is why in ending A the umbra knight stays behind to hold back the blight and await the next priestess after lily

Did you got the priestess of dawn, wind, and fount mixed up? Though pretty sure they are a family line, think there was somewhere that mentioned or hinted only those women of the ancient race has that kind of natural ability to absorb and resist blight. So the possibly of find a random woman to be a priestess successor would be very unlikely.

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

while they were able to retain their human forms intially as the rain of death did not fall on them too much, they had gone mad from the amount of kills they had to prevent passage of others as with siegrid she had to protect lily the 17th clone from all that would harm her while silva was left to guard the entrance of the execution grounds so that hoenrir would not be overburdened by the amount of blighted that would come and the other nuns as seen in the catherdral route the attic and catacombs their transformation was similar to the phase 3 form of both siegrid and silva but smaller as they were not direct guardians of the fretia not held the same amount of power they both had

Its also ironic that Siegrid is your first boss, where she was meant to protect you. But then pretty sure lots of others would have gone mad too per say Gerrord, since he is easily the oldest and killed so many during the wars. Also wonders why Silva was not the hardest boss to fight since she fought her way into becoming the official priestess' guardian.

[ScorchedVanilla]

Originally posted by Nya:

Originally posted by ScorchedVanilla:

the priestess of dawn was established before the kingdom but was not seen too often during that time as there were other religions that outnumbered the white parish prior to the blight war that ended up being wiped out by the blight, however the priestess of dawn did not have children and had a successor which was the priestess of wind who attempted to take out the blight lord and failed, but prior to that she had forged the deathless pact with the umbra knight to care for fretia her child that should she fail her duty to purify the blight completely that he would protect her descendants during their purification journeys too until the task is complete which is why in ending A the umbra knight stays behind to hold back the blight and await the next priestess after lily

Originally posted by Nya:

Did you got the priestess of dawn, wind, and fount mixed up? Though pretty sure they are a family line, think there was somewhere that mentioned or hinted only those women of the ancient race has that kind of natural ability to absorb and resist blight. So the possibly of find a random woman to be a priestess successor would be very unlikely.

ok so i most likely got that mixed up after going through the notes again