Amazing art, but some of the worst level design ive seen

[Ryoga]

Level design is like 50% of what make a metroivania good, such a shame

[Groen90]

Might be bait but I'm still interested to hear you elaborate since I really can't see how it's different from the majority of other similar games... looks like you only played 5 hours though so I'm not getting my hopes up

[Ryoga]

Originally posted by Groen90:

Might be bait but I'm still interested to hear you elaborate since I really can't see how it's different from the majority of other similar games... looks like you only played 5 hours though so I'm not getting my hopes up

Have you played hollow knight? navigating in levels here is just a pain

[Groen90]

Originally posted by Ryoga:

Originally posted by Groen90:

Might be bait but I'm still interested to hear you elaborate since I really can't see how it's different from the majority of other similar games... looks like you only played 5 hours though so I'm not getting my hopes up

Have you played hollow knight? navigating in levels here is just a pain

I have played HK. How is navigation in this a pain?

[jw770]

It took a bit of getting used to, but I don't see how navigating these levels is any different than HK, especially after you unlock fast travel.

[Serathis]

Seen much worse. Enderlilies is not amazing but a very competently made game.

[pharmy]

I think it has really solid design overall. Always shortcuts to unlock to speed up revisiting areas and I like the way things connect in most cases. And I've played all the most popular games of this type

[Daviar]

I personally found Ender Lillies levels far more enjoyable than Hollow Knight ones, way easier to find a way somewhere and with less irritating obstacles (I got PTSD from all the spikes in HK, i hated those SO much).

[NowBobCat]

It's way easier to navigate here than in hollow knight, save for the few rooms that are designed around being a maze

[Ryoga]

Originally posted by NowBobCat:

It's way easier to navigate here than in hollow knight, save for the few rooms that are designed around being a maze

May be. But hollow knight worlds feels more "natural", makes more sense, is somewhat hard to explain

[genjishun]

But I feel the level of hollow knight is boring at the end part. Lilis is good until now.

[Igƞis]

Hollow Knight does have some beautiful but the amount of difficulty it tosses in your damn face on the roads you usually travel through makes it less enjoyable to travel through.

[NoMonkey]

I don't have a grudge with the level design but please mark currently locked paths due to missing abilities on the map or at least give me some custom markers. I won't remember some platform where I need to wallclimb from 8 hours ago :(

[thorin.hannahs]

I can agree with this to an extent. What I noticed is that the design of combat, platforms and enemy position make navigation pretty annoying early on. I attributed this to the level design at first. Once you get a dash upgrade things smooth out but there is a lot of ♥♥♥♥ that can happen with multi-projectile enemies and the unintended ledge pull up that Lily does. Everything feels slightly off.

The hollow knight map was more intuitive for me and the layout didn't lend itself to being sniped by projectile enemies. Perhaps a more detailed map would alleviate some of the issues.

[Sokurah]

I cant tell exactly why because Hollow knight is too long ago but exlporing felt more fun than in this one.

Hollow knight dont got such big room or at least a better map for them. In this one you have one big square with 5 exits and a big maze inside.

[Ryoga]

Originally posted by Sokurah:

I cant tell exactly why because Hollow knight is too long ago but exlporing felt more fun than in this one.

Hollow knight dont got such big room or at least a better map for them. In this one you have one big square with 5 exits and a big maze inside.

Enemy placement just fells off to me