ENDER LILIES: Quietus of the Knights

ENDER LILIES: Quietus of the Knights

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phoenix Jun 26, 2021 @ 3:45pm
will more content be coming to ender lilies?
will more things be coming to the game such as dlc new zones and bosses, new game plus challenge rooms like boss rushes, multi stage arenas
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I really hope devs won't add any dlcs to the game. Right now, it's story is in the perfectly completed state, and adding unneeded additional content for the sake of nothing just gonna ruin the story balance pretty much just like it was with Hollow knight.
HoneyDruid Jul 1, 2021 @ 6:23pm 
Originally posted by Roderick✪Legend:
New game plus is a necessity on this type of games if you are going to put 3 endings on the game, expecting the player to start all over again and collect everything just to get an ending is really a slap in the face for his time.

Blasphemous did a great job at implementing this, resetting everything but let the player keep all his upgrades, beads and skills and giving him a more challenged new run with the petiences.

Simply save before the endings and there is no reason to redo all the content over again.
HoneyDruid Jul 1, 2021 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by moon_cradle:
I really hope devs won't add any dlcs to the game. Right now, it's story is in the perfectly completed state, and adding unneeded additional content for the sake of nothing just gonna ruin the story balance pretty much just like it was with Hollow knight.

I actually agree with you, the game is fine how it is. Extra content isn't needed. If anything, the success of the game should lead to another game, not adding in more.
Zenkei88 Jul 2, 2021 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by moon_cradle:
I really hope devs won't add any dlcs to the game. Right now, it's story is in the perfectly completed state, and adding unneeded additional content for the sake of nothing just gonna ruin the story balance pretty much just like it was with Hollow knight.
i agree , no new story content , just new game plus with maybe new enemy placement/harder enemies ( so we can max out all skills ), boss rush could be cool cause bosses were good .
Work on another project , you guys did very good , surpassed my expectations
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Bankai9212 Jul 2, 2021 @ 8:34am 
Originally posted by moon_cradle:
I really hope devs won't add any dlcs to the game. Right now, it's story is in the perfectly completed state, and adding unneeded additional content for the sake of nothing just gonna ruin the story balance pretty much just like it was with Hollow knight.
Right because the game is perfectly balanced in its current state. Spoiler it isn’t plenty of things can be improved having more content is fine, never see why people have an issue with added content that’s optional.
Grimm Bulbel Jul 2, 2021 @ 5:09pm 
This game doesn't NEED more added, I'd just be happy with NG+ and new enemy placement. But I don't think the devs are just going to be done with this game/story. This game has enough going for it where they COULD either add DLC or make an entirely new game as a sequel.
Last edited by Grimm Bulbel; Jul 3, 2021 @ 2:22am
StoneofTriumph Jul 2, 2021 @ 5:34pm 
I'd rather not have a sequel, because the problem with sequels to games and adventures of this sort is that they have a habit of invalidating everything that was done in the previous story.
megaolix Jul 2, 2021 @ 9:27pm 
I wouldn't mind being able to replay some bosses, at the very least.

Originally posted by zoberraz:
What gets me the most - without going too heavily in spoilers - is that Ending C is very abstract and I'm very interested in knowing what happens to Lily beyond that. The post-endboss epilogue is also devoid of anything from the Umbral Knight.

I think what I'd be looking for is a significant post-Ending C story DLC, or a second game. I would really like to see Lily grow up and how she'd make her way into the world.
There's reall no need for that, I think. The setting was Land's Edge. Whatever Lily and the Umbral Knight do beyond that is up for your imagination.

Does she lose whatever sign of corruption she remain as she leave, with nothing to nourish it? Do Lily settle down somewhere else? Do the two fight new evils? Do the rest of the souls stick around for Lily or move on? Does she eventually learn to speak (Nothing was found to indicate she was any different from the others, really, so it may have been a manner of needing to be taught. But again, all up to how you see it. You could even see it as the Umbral Knight reading all notes to her instead of Lily doing so herself).

There's no need for a full extended epilogue.
Last edited by megaolix; Jul 2, 2021 @ 9:44pm
rattopi Jul 3, 2021 @ 3:04am 
I hope so, I ended up liking it more than I expected.
Altair1243 Jul 3, 2021 @ 6:19pm 
Honestly, I would also like to see additional content, if the devs think it could be done/tied-in well. I think an expanded ending C DLC or the like would be the simplest method &/or NG+ could be introduced (Dark souls style with different enemy placements, etc...) for the people who are interested. Again, not needed IMO as a "one & done" game with meaningful story is more than fine by me (Heck, I still replay SWKOTOR & that's about as linear as you can get minus customization) & Metroid is like this, too. Not saying EL has to be Metroid, but people still go back & replay those games for nostalgia, among other reasons, we don't need 100Hrs of DLC to enjoy the game again

That said, I'd also hate to see such an amazingly well-crafted universe "abandoned", for lack of a better term, so I would honestly love at least one sequel which I don't think it would be too difficult to tie something in, though for sure more involved than an expanded post-ending storyline.

At the end of the day, though, if it can't feasibly be done well, I'm still more than satisifed with the game I paid for. Then again, I also place HUGE emphasis on story (right after gameplay, IMO) so it could just be due to my logic that I see it this way
Last edited by Altair1243; Jul 3, 2021 @ 6:20pm
Altair1243 Jul 3, 2021 @ 6:25pm 
Originally posted by megaolix:
I wouldn't mind being able to replay some bosses, at the very least.

Originally posted by zoberraz:
What gets me the most - without going too heavily in spoilers - is that Ending C is very abstract and I'm very interested in knowing what happens to Lily beyond that. The post-endboss epilogue is also devoid of anything from the Umbral Knight.

I think what I'd be looking for is a significant post-Ending C story DLC, or a second game. I would really like to see Lily grow up and how she'd make her way into the world.
There's reall no need for that, I think. The setting was Land's Edge. Whatever Lily and the Umbral Knight do beyond that is up for your imagination.

Does she lose whatever sign of corruption she remain as she leave, with nothing to nourish it? Do Lily settle down somewhere else? Do the two fight new evils? Do the rest of the souls stick around for Lily or move on? Does she eventually learn to speak (Nothing was found to indicate she was any different from the others, really, so it may have been a manner of needing to be taught. But again, all up to how you see it. You could even see it as the Umbral Knight reading all notes to her instead of Lily doing so herself).

There's no need for a full extended epilogue.

I sort-of agree with you. I don't think that much detail is needed in the epilogue, per se, but I also wouldn't mind one, or three ;), more adventures. That said, I recognise that's my love for the universe & characters speaking so I'll limit myself to what the devs think can be implemented tastefully

After all, if it ruins the experience we already had it would be a bit counter-intuitive as we wouldn't be here seeking more
Saavedra Jul 4, 2021 @ 1:54am 
Originally posted by Altair1243:
That said, I'd also hate to see such an amazingly well-crafted universe "abandoned"

Thing is the universe itself is not very original. I can´t imagine there is a single thing here we haven´t seen in a dozen places somewhere else. What really makes EL special, in my opinion, is the presentation. They went for a very specific mood, made the right visuals, hired the right music creators, and... it all just clicked together perfectly.

Without the atmosphere and the story narrated in it, EL´s world is not very interesting.
Xanzibareus  [developer] Jul 21, 2021 @ 7:06am 
Thank you all for adding your voice to the topic of NG+ and DLC. We are noting each suggestion for new modes.
Altair1243 Aug 7, 2021 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by Saavedra:
Originally posted by Altair1243:
That said, I'd also hate to see such an amazingly well-crafted universe "abandoned"

Thing is the universe itself is not very original. I can´t imagine there is a single thing here we haven´t seen in a dozen places somewhere else. What really makes EL special, in my opinion, is the presentation. They went for a very specific mood, made the right visuals, hired the right music creators, and... it all just clicked together perfectly.

Without the atmosphere and the story narrated in it, EL´s world is not very interesting.

Well, yes, that would be the context. Nothing is truly original when broken down into the smallest constituent parts (Why re-invent the wheel when it works fine? Just refine the design for a better product) but taken as a whole I don't think I've ever seen something quite like the universe. Maybe that's just me, since I haven't really played many metroidvania's but I'd also like to think I have enough experience playing games that I can tell when something comes off as "stale" vs "unique" even when I can recognize mechanics that come from, were inspired by , and/or were popularized by, certain titles
Mandz Aug 15, 2021 @ 8:43pm 
The impression I got after ending C is that, the developers specifically made it so that you don't have to do NG+ to get everything. I'm surprised they even made the endings bound to items that you can choose to equip or not, giving you total control of what ending you want to get, without the need for multiple saves.

Also, in terms of difficulty - I think the game does eventually get to a point where it's almost intimidating to play, even more so if you handicap yourself by not equipping certain items.

So I don't feel that a NG+ is going to be thing.

As for DLC, I'm kind of on the fence on this. On one hand, of course I still want to play more, but on the other, I'm satisfied enough to just keep the game as it is. Maybe I'd look for additional features? Like ability to cycle through more than 2 sets of spirits, ability to edit the map to add your own captioned markers? (getting lost and forgetting where to go next was a common thing in my playthrough).

If this is going to be the last of this title, I guess I'd rather have Lily and Umbral Knight do a cameo on their next game instead.
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Date Posted: Jun 26, 2021 @ 3:45pm
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