Combat Mission Shock Force 2

Combat Mission Shock Force 2

This is not a military simulation.
As a person with basic principles of warfare, I say that this simulator is not as good as it is described. Here it is impossible to fully simulate even an elementary ambush on armored vehicles in the city. Strykers and Abrams see fighters lying on the floor through the walls, and religious fanatics tremble in fear of a couple of bullets fired - absurd. Why should I bring my soldiers to the forefront of the defense perimeter if it is tactically unprofitable, because I have to evade long-range fire combat where the US Army has an advantage? Game mechanics forbids simulation. This is an entertainment toy for the mass consumer. Advertisers misled me.

This simulator cannot be used for military training, it does not meet elementary requirements, such as:
1. Urban combat and the fight against armored vehicles with hand-held anti-tank grenade launchers (the game mechanics impose remote combat - this is crazy)
2. There is no simulation of morality, to suppress the fire of religious fanatics and US rangers are completely different degrees of morality.
3. The game has very weak AI - everything is scripted. Shooting smoke grenades and then running across open ground under crossfire is crazy.
And so on, this is one of the worst war simulators I've wasted money on. I was looking for a game that the military learns from and I was seduced by advertising - I was wrong.

Arma 3 is much better at simulating ambush combat against armored vehicles. If you know the military simulators that the military learn from, write the names here. Thanks.

(Sorry for google translate. I am rus from Rossia.#stopwar)
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I would not write this review. But I saved up for this game for almost a year. The average salary in Russia is $160. $ 80 utility bills for an apartment (by the way, in the Russian Federation not private property, but a man is legally a slave in the Russian state matriarchy / feminism), $ 40 for travel to work. $20 for food and $20 for items. This is for a month. I am a tactical and strategic thinker working as a panty guard in a shopping mall. Putin does not need competent personnel, he is a madman. Can I get a refund for this game?
Rambovic Mar 20, 2022 @ 10:32am 
There is a demo...
NapoleoninRags Mar 20, 2022 @ 11:51am 
'Can I get a refund for this game?'
If you've played less than 2 hrs you could get a refund. Don't know how that will work in the RF now .
If you set up quick battles you can adjust the 'fitness' and 'training' I think they're called, to reflect fanaticism and morale. There might be an adjustment for sighting too, its been awhile since i played.
Rambovic Mar 21, 2022 @ 4:02am 
Another tip you might try the turn-based mode. Its the way the game should be played in my opinion.
mooreshawnm Mar 21, 2022 @ 11:30pm 
Am I the only one that finds the complaint amusing?
Rambovic Mar 22, 2022 @ 7:33am 
Same but it makes me sad that he had to save for a year...
Bullett Mar 22, 2022 @ 8:02am 
How long did you save to get the computer?
ARMA3?lol...
IMHO, For most players, ARMA3 is just a fun multiplay game like SQUAD.
OK,it can simulate some military life.:)
But i am not interest in a military life, and i am only interest in a military mission.
CM can realise it.
Hegulator Mar 23, 2022 @ 8:19pm 
Small reply, just my few thoughts

1. Manual says that the HIDE order is unreliable if enemy is close, it takes a lot of willpower to keep hiding while the enemy approaches. Experience, morale and leadership affects this. Buildings do have windows, ventilation etc. to see through with thermal imaging, if you hide behind an actual tall wall tank commander cannot see you and you can ambush him a lot easier.
2. There is a simulation of morale, but it has been simulated more like battle morale. So if you have been shot at a lot (experienced), it gets harder to pin you down with fire. Also a presence of a leader (C2) makes it harder to pin you. Religious fanatics might have never seen a firefight with a tank and thus be highly susceptible to heavy enemy fire.
3. Very true, I think the scenarios are more like playing against the scenario designer, not real AI. So once you figure out what he intended, game gets really easy.

Lastly, this is a commercial version of the simulation. Professional simulation is different.
A Canadian Cat Mar 24, 2022 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Hegulator:
Lastly, this is a commercial version of the simulation. Professional simulation is different.

It is different in that there are additional features that allow for customization and playback the actual Tac AI that controls the pixel troops is the same.
Originally posted by Hegulator:
Religious fanatics might have never seen a firefight with a tank and thus be highly susceptible to heavy enemy fire.
Oh yeah! :)
so...
You all understand that if in this "military action simulator" it is impossible to simulate an elementary shot from a hand grenade launcher from the window of a high-rise building (without exchanging fire with a striker or raving at a distance convenient for an armored combat vehicle but not convenient for an infantryman with a grenade launcher, as happens in an asymmetric war ( in this simulator there is no elementary ambush) then this is not a simulator but garbage for mass consumption? Tanki sees an infantryman through the wall of a high-rise building (he should not see him even through a thermal imager). This is crazy! I do not have a professional version unfortunately. But what is stated by the developer - False.
Originally posted by ICTRADER:
ARMA3?lol...
IMHO, For most players, ARMA3 is just a fun multiplay game like SQUAD.
OK,it can simulate some military life.:)
But i am not interest in a military life, and i am only interest in a military mission.
CM can realise it.
It was in arm 3 (arm 2 + ace + rhs) that I managed to simulate an ambush on a convoy of RF troops. The ambush group was smaller in personnel than the convoy. Few RPGs, few single machine guns, but I managed to burn it down in 10 seconds), while I, as a commander, did not participate in fire contact. There you can set the behavior of the column in the editor, alert, combative and careless, and yes, in the grass the bots do not see my bots and in the forest they see just as poorly. This is better simulation than combat mission. I have a weak PC and it does not pull Arma 3 (and arma 2 slows down) I was hoping for a combat mission ... and I do not advise you to write the phrase "lol" if you want a guy to take you seriously.
I'm sorry if I offended anyone, this is a normal simulation game, I didn't mean to offend the fans of this game, I'm just a perfectionist and I have high demands in everything.
mooreshawnm Mar 26, 2022 @ 12:31pm 
Iron man
turn based
Passage to Wilcox
Limit 2 lost AFVs and 15 KIA

Let me know how it goes
https://www.thefewgoodmen.com/tsd3/
Try the missions, and there are many ambush scenarios :)
Good luck,comany commander.
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