bull-G need a buff

[DDENN]

just active guard lv2 pls

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It definitely has been a rough suit from what I've seen if anyone can get their hands on it. It suffers from the main detriments that FA Gundam ground type does aka no dodge roll. That makes it incredibly hard to break out of stun lock if the enemy gets the drop on you. The double misfortune is that, as a general, your team expects you up front.

Also like FA Gundam ground type, however, you do get maneuver armor. I'd suggest investing a lot of parts into your boost and using it as much as you can when you're not rear lining with the missiles. Doesn't make it much less painful since it's only maneuver armor lvl 1 but it'll at least tank an instant stun. It could really use maneuver armor lvl 2 or as you said, active guard lvl 2.

[DDENN]

Originally posted by destructicons:

It definitely has been a rough suit from what I've seen if anyone can get their hands on it. It suffers from the main detriments that FA Gundam ground type does aka no dodge roll. That makes it incredibly hard to break out of stun lock if the enemy gets the drop on you. The double misfortune is that, as a general, your team expects you up front.

Also like FA Gundam ground type, however, you do get maneuver armor. I'd suggest investing a lot of parts into your boost and using it as much as you can when you're not rear lining with the missiles. Doesn't make it much less painful since it's only maneuver armor lvl 1 but it'll at least tank an instant stun. It could really use maneuver armor lvl 2 or as you said, active guard lvl 2.

it even lost to FA mkII not to say melee animation is sucks

[Zabine Chareux]

The problem with people who played the Bull-G, is that they treat the unit like a pure frontline Generals who tanks damage while meleeing their enemies, which is wrong...

The Bull-G is literally a mid-ranged shooter unit, similar like Stark Jegan or the Jegan Heavy Equipment Type on the 550 cost, where your job is to blast your enemies from 300-350m range, while providing cover for your frontliner Generals.

What makes the Bull-G better than any mid-ranged shooter units is its Sub-Arms Cushion skill, where it can reduce incoming damage by -40%, while reducing damage reaction + stagger value build up when hit by ranged attacks, so it can trade shots with the enemy better.

So yeah, you might want to play less aggresive using the Bull-G, and instead stay a bit behind your frontliners, while shooting the enemies from there, since the unit have more advantages with tons of weapons and useful skills.

[628]

isn't that one of 550 meta?

[Sailor Thot]

Please buff an already good suit because skill issue

[destructicons]

Originally posted by Zabine Chareux:

The Bull-G is literally a mid-ranged shooter unit, similar like Stark Jegan or the Jegan Heavy Equipment Type on the 550 cost, where your job is to blast your enemies from 300-350m range, while providing cover for your frontliner Generals.

What makes the Bull-G better than any mid-ranged shooter units is its Sub-Arms Cushion skill, where it can reduce incoming damage by -40%, while reducing damage reaction + stagger value build up when hit by ranged attacks, so it can trade shots with the enemy better.

While true that it's a good shooter, it has no way of escaping stun lock. Stark Jegan and Jegan HET do. So while it's nice that it has incredible durability, it's only able to make limited use of it without putting itself in danger, especially against both suits you mentioned. If they made this thing a support it'd be amazing. But without a dodge roll your team is now down a front liner and without the benefit of it having type advantage against generals or observational data link to make it worth babysitting

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Imo just giving it maneuver armor lvl 2 would give it a decent change to not get shut down by 3 instant stuns the moment it tries to fight anything like a Geara Doga Kai

[Zabine Chareux]

Originally posted by destructicons:

While true that it's a good shooter, it has no way of escaping stun lock. Stark Jegan and Jegan HET do. So while it's nice that it has incredible durability, it's only able to make limited use of it without putting itself in danger, especially against both suits you mentioned. If they made this thing a support it'd be amazing. But without a dodge roll your team is now down a front liner and without the benefit of it having type advantage against generals or observational data link to make it worth babysitting

Again, the Bull-G have an advantage in ranged battles using its Sub-Arm Cushion skill, on top of Maneuver Armor + Damage Control skills, hence it doesn't have Evasion skill, since it would be overkill (imagine the MP ZZ Gundam, but with Kshatriya's Binder, that's what the Bull-G if given Evasion skill).

You also need to stop playing the Bull-G as a tanky frontliner like Dreissen, Zaku III, or Dijeh, in which they can soak damage while aggroing the enemy team, because it ain't that kind of unit.

The reason is that if you somehow being targeted by the enemy or multiple enemies, to the point that they could stun-lock you, then it means that your positioning is too far ahead, hence you're getting aggro'd.

Try putting a self restraint on yourself when playing the unit, where you need to always stay on mid-range behind your allies, while helping them pushing forward + cover their asses, and also know when to retreat/fall back when you're getting too much heat.

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Thanks for the tips, although I don't have the Bull-G yet. I'm only saying based off it's stats and how I've seen it being bullied. The wing binders seem nice if your generals are doing a reeeeeally good job at keeping them over there or enemy team is just bad. Otherwise most people will try to shoot around shields, particularly at your feet or head, towards mid to high rank.

Also agree that 1v1 is not the best idea but no plan survives contact with the enemy and it is a 5v5 or 6v6. There will be times you have to handle an enemy charging you yourself especially at 300m and there are some monster raids at this cost who can more than take advantage of you not having a dodge roll on top of often having a dodge roll of their own + maneuver armor. I guess where I'm going with this is I just really don't see the point of it's existence as it is. Anything it can do, most units at cost can do but better. Sure it can provide multiple stuns... but you can just play support, many of which at that cost don't have the disadvantage of 115 walkspeed + better range, type advantage against the front line, observational data link, etc. Sure it has type advantage against raids... but the raids have better walking speed and a dodge roll. So it kinda feels like it gets the worst of both worlds, relegated to the support-like role while forgoing the damage of support type advantage and still not having the maneuverability skills most generals provide to better abuse their type advantage against overzealous raids. It's not the unit most in need of help in the game by far, just...incredibly mediocre?

[DDENN]

Originally posted by destructicons:

Thanks for the tips, although I don't have the Bull-G yet. I'm only saying based off it's stats and how I've seen it being bullied. The wing binders seem nice if your generals are doing a reeeeeally good job at keeping them over there or enemy team is just bad. Otherwise most people will try to shoot around shields, particularly at your feet or head, towards mid to high rank.

Also agree that 1v1 is not the best idea but no plan survives contact with the enemy and it is a 5v5 or 6v6. There will be times you have to handle an enemy charging you yourself especially at 300m and there are some monster raids at this cost who can more than take advantage of you not having a dodge roll on top of often having a dodge roll of their own + maneuver armor. I guess where I'm going with this is I just really don't see the point of it's existence as it is. Anything it can do, most units at cost can do but better. Sure it can provide multiple stuns... but you can just play support, many of which at that cost don't have the disadvantage of 115 walkspeed + better range, type advantage against the front line, observational data link, etc. Sure it has type advantage against raids... but the raids have better walking speed and a dodge roll. So it kinda feels like it gets the worst of both worlds, relegated to the support-like role while forgoing the damage of support type advantage and still not having the maneuverability skills most generals provide to better abuse their type advantage against overzealous raids. It's not the unit most in need of help in the game by far, just...incredibly mediocre?

its shield is same as ksatriya before buff, only reduce dmg not negate stun that over 1500 dmg which become easy target. missile pod draw is so slow that can only hit non moving thing. beam rifle on the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ left shoulder not right. and lastly the melee animation that tell u better not have to use it. while it weakpoint is melee. this unit is like a cripple/handicapped without active guard.

[destructicons]

Having weapons on alt side of unit can be rough but it’s not unique in that regard. And it does pose the advantage of being able to shoot from your left around corners if you can angle it well. Poor melee is as you said a weakpoint as it is with most shooter generals like Jegan HET. Can understand want for active guard though. Maneuver armor lvl 2 suggestion was just off how it already has maneuver armor lvl 1 so it seems like that’s what devs were going for, but maneuver armor lvl 1 is easily broken by 450 where tons of units have a decent weapon to combo into their insta stun to break it. Now 550 where just about everything has zeta era vulcans? Ouch…

[Zabine Chareux]

What a coincidence, Kokura, which is one of GBO 2's top Japanese content creators, has just uploaded his Bull-G gameplay video from his previous stream a couple of days ago:

https://youtu.be/olk4oPrfE-w?si=m2CUr3Z1sLZSAXNV

As you can see, he plays the unit as a mid-ranged shooter, where he positioned himself as an anchor between the frontliner and Support, so he can help both sides when in need (he supports his frontline, while covering his Supports).

He also survives for more than 5 minutes during his first life, which also supports my saying about the unit, where you can live much longer as long as you don't overextend yourself, or you act as a frontliner that aggros the whole enemy team.

[destructicons]

Woah there, I never called it bad. It’s perfectly playable, as is every unit in the game to some extent. But whether or not you can personally bring out a unit’s performance with skill doesn’t really mean it doesn’t need help to stay a viable pick and unique offering in the game’s current cost meta. Good example is I can get a match with the Gundam Mk II and score over 100k damage with it but my opinion doesn’t change that it is significantly power crept and also needs slight help.

The reality is at a cost where you have solid offerings that perform the same role like Dezpada and Jegan HET, why ever choose this? That’s a question more on the devs than us, but I can’t see anyone for example choosing this for a rated or clan match over those two or most 550 native generals when the only gimmick is the shields at the cost of mobility skills

[Rim Fire]

one of the most broken generals in 550 cost needs a buff, sure.

[DDENN]

doga kai need Maneuver armor but didnt get it, whilt it is melee focused suit like normal doga.
bull-g come with Maneuver armor but bad melee animation and weak on taking melee.
all this in scenario that your team are braindead where u can only relaid on your self.
in manga bull-g use his bazooka on right shoulder but we have stun javelin missile instead.

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