state of the game

[76561198970978487]

i might get hate from this topic but then again i have a feeling this game has really kind of obvius death, so will this month and next month (january maybe even febuary) our last time playing GBO2, any info/opinions from you guys will be helpful also aran what you think about the game moving forward now?
p.s: i still want the game keep going and will play it all the time until someone at bamco makes a good gundam game

[titansp]

Heh these people

Game has a 2k pop in JST and pacific time zones

With maybe around 1k to 500 people actually paying for tokens

And a backlog of already planned content so pc team doesn't have to think to hard

Gbo2 has always been a flawed game
With no quality life improvements or improvements to netcode, penaltys

you'll get your EOS announcement maybe around may or april of 2024
If no one is Makeing purchases

With the game is ran so cheaply you'll likely not see it till console reaches it end of its life cyle

Don't say gun evo that game didn't try, It was centered largely around monitzation from the start

[76561198970978487]

BTW titansp will we get some kind of december event too? i saw yesterday the console got their december/christmas event and well im hoping we pc get it too as that'll be a good content to do other than some would do (grinding to S but that is a madman move cause probably how sweaty higher rated players)

[76561198970978487]

Originally posted by titansp:

Heh these people

Game has a 2k pop in JST and pacific time zones

With maybe around 1k to 500 people actually paying for tokens

And a backlog of already planned content so pc team doesn't have to think to hard

Gbo2 has always been a flawed game
With no quality life improvements or improvements to netcode, penaltys

you'll get your EOS announcement maybe around may or april of 2024
If no one is Makeing purchases

With the game is ran so cheaply you'll likely not see it till console reaches it end of its life cyle

Don't say gun evo that game didn't try, It was centered largely around monitzation from the start

yeah gun evo did target monization from the beginning (i had to do alot of saving) and try win back with some balance and new ms, well gbo2 it is a flawed game but i believe they're starting to improve some altough very smalll step example it's the dp price on ms in dp store but idk if that was just because they're trying replicate black friday and for netcode which include MM for me has been fine with 2, 3 or little bit more DC from match or maybe that has a factor siding with it because i live near japan so probably that and good enough connection to internet

[titansp]

Originally posted by norin:

BTW titansp will we get some kind of december event too? i saw yesterday the console got their december/christmas event and well im hoping we pc get it too as that'll be a good content to do other than some would do (grinding to S but that is a madman move cause probably how sweaty higher rated players)

January 31 is when pc will get it

The rest comes in February of 2024 every thing else is in the thread I posted

The only thing questionable is the black friday login
They don't deviate from much or at all in the order events what ps gets

Char gelgoog login(can't remeber or find info if ps got this login) , operation star one and a few banners are the only inregular updates we got

The thing we won't get is token pack suits

[76561197988918266]

it's pretty obvious
the game is a mess technically to begin with, down to the controls; I suspect being able to get in match wasn't due to fixes on their end - it was just low number of players in matchmaking.

What nailed the coffin was their "fix" for people abusing clan exp/reward(punished everyone else for it; which is normal for japanese devs who think players are subhuman - their game crash...etc., and players get slapped with penalty).

I wish I was wrong but I suspect they would behave the exact same way if GBO3 ever exists.

[Legion Grimclaw]

tbf you do behave subhuman, so i guess thats fair of them to treat you that way.

[76561197988918266]

You're one of those subhuman, I see.

[628]

Originally posted by norin:

also aran what you think about the game moving forward now?

RIP
Gundam Battle Operation for Steam
2023-2023

This.

[dotVeskan]

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[destructicons]

People thinking this game is gonna die are more venting (or are blinded by) their own frustrations rather than looking at reality. The reality is this game makes enough to have something to show bandai execs every board meeting. Evo didn't.

Evo's monetization will forever be an excellent study of what NOT to do for a free service game. The devs were only making money off players 1 of 3 ways. The outrageously priced skin packs (around $80 each), the battlepass (which only unlocked a few lazily painted skins and some other goodies), and the new unit every 2 and a half months (which you could get for free by grinding the free part of the battlepass anyways).

Assuming a decent amount of people playing (which was only a few hundred around the final months normally and barely breaking 1k peaks) bought the unit for that season, they only made $20 off that person. For the next 2 and a half months. Even if they wanted to whale, they didn't have much to whale on. There was an exclusive skin gacha each season but there was no 10 roll, pity system, or reasonable way to grind additional rolls for free towards that banner. The only rolls they often gave for free (when they maybe felt generous to give people 2-3) was towards the normal pool without that season's rate up skin. Note that the rate up banner was for the entire duration of the season, so for the next 2 and a half months, you only really got to whale at one banner. And all of this is assuming you even WANT your unit in gold. After all this, the only thing left to spend your Arabian oil baron money on was the $80 skin packs, which the devs could only make money off you once per player.

I think you can see the trend here. There wasn't much to spend on and what there was to spend on was either extremely unexciting or non-recurring. They designed a system in a way where they barely made money off a player almost as if on purpose and then are surprised when they come up in the red at the end of the month. In short, even if you liked Evo, hell, even if you loved Evo with all your heart, they could barely make money off you. Unless you decided to fill up your account with a ton of tokens for absolutely no reason at all other than just as a donation towards the game, there was no reason to spend money after season's opening day, which was only once every 2 and a half months. And that's what killed the game in Bandai's exec room.

GBO2, by comparison, is a waterfall of content each week, having played Evo and THEN GBO2 personally. They have a system in place where the people who really want to spend money CAN spend that money and have a reason to. Immense unit pool, parts, even small stuff like the in-game music tracks if that's your thing. And there's a new reason to open those types of whales' wallets every week with a new banner.

Bit of a long rant, but it's worth understanding. I loved Evo. It's what got me into Gundam. It's also why I've seen over the year of it's life the glaring monetary flaws there that sure aren't present here.

[76561198970978487]

Originally posted by destructicons:

People thinking this game is gonna die are more venting (or are blinded by) their own frustrations rather than looking at reality. The reality is this game makes enough to have something to show bandai execs every board meeting. Evo didn't.

Evo's monetization will forever be an excellent study of what NOT to do for a free service game. The devs were only making money off players 1 of 3 ways. The outrageously priced skin packs (around $80 each), the battlepass (which only unlocked a few lazily painted skins and some other goodies), and the new unit every 2 and a half months (which you could get for free by grinding the free part of the battlepass anyways).

Assuming a decent amount of people playing (which was only a few hundred around the final months normally and barely breaking 1k peaks) bought the unit for that season, they only made $20 off that person. For the next 2 and a half months. Even if they wanted to whale, they didn't have much to whale on. There was an exclusive skin gacha each season but there was no 10 roll, pity system, or reasonable way to grind additional rolls for free towards that banner. The only rolls they often gave for free (when they maybe felt generous to give people 2-3) was towards the normal pool without that season's rate up skin. Note that the rate up banner was for the entire duration of the season, so for the next 2 and a half months, you only really got to whale at one banner. And all of this is assuming you even WANT your unit in gold. After all this, the only thing left to spend your Arabian oil baron money on was the $80 skin packs, which the devs could only make money off you once per player.

I think you can see the trend here. There wasn't much to spend on and what there was to spend on was either extremely unexciting or non-recurring. They designed a system in a way where they barely made money off a player almost as if on purpose and then are surprised when they come up in the red at the end of the month. In short, even if you liked Evo, hell, even if you loved Evo with all your heart, they could barely make money off you. Unless you decided to fill up your account with a ton of tokens for absolutely no reason at all other than just as a donation towards the game, there was no reason to spend money after season's opening day, which was only once every 2 and a half months. And that's what killed the game in Bandai's exec room.

GBO2, by comparison, is a waterfall of content each week, having played Evo and THEN GBO2 personally. They have a system in place where the people who really want to spend money CAN spend that money and have a reason to. Immense unit pool, parts, even small stuff like the in-game music tracks if that's your thing. And there's a new reason to open those types of whales' wallets every week with a new banner.

Bit of a long rant, but it's worth understanding. I loved Evo. It's what got me into Gundam. It's also why I've seen over the year of it's life the glaring monetary flaws there that sure aren't present here.

yeah evo did really was lacking on stuff and ingame rewards that killed evo then they probably said let's just try focus on gbo2 pc ver which they planned after evo peforms bad even tho the best ver of gbo2 pc was the beta which apperently almost everyone said the mm wasn't like today and for evo i do missed it as it did fill my wish to play overwatch like game but i guess with gundam and do make it fps as in lore almost of all MS fight more with guns than beam sabers/melee stuff but man the way bamco made you get new MS or other stuff really hard/frustating even for f2p player like me (wish they balanced rewards for f2p and players who pay) when i play evo although i can say bought nu gundam in evo which i was proud.

[628]

Evo died of its terrible management with no drastic improvements, so will GBO2PC for the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ reason
We are making a good estimation, I THINK

[76561197988918266]

Originally posted by destructicons:

People thinking this game is gonna die are more venting (or are blinded by) their own frustrations rather than looking at reality. The reality is this game makes enough to have something to show bandai execs every board meeting. Evo didn't.

The reality is that most of this pc version's cost is supported by console version(console version already existing with all of the content, and pc version being a low effort port). Unlike gundam evolution which had to be made from scratch.

It being a f2p game and having trouble finding matches(there are times when even A/B rooms are nonexistent without a few min of searching) is not that different from being dead.
Whether they're making money or not has nothing to do with whether you, the player, experience the suck.

[destructicons]

Originally posted by BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:

The reality is that most of this pc version's cost is supported by console version(console version already existing with all of the content, and pc version being a low effort port). Unlike gundam evolution which had to be made from scratch.

People spend on this game. Look at any of the DLC pages. They have quite a lot of reviews (although some of them are just rants from people who clearly never purchased).

Originally posted by BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:

It being a f2p game and having trouble finding matches(there are times when even A/B rooms are nonexistent without a few min of searching) is not that different from being dead.
Whether they're making money or not has nothing to do with whether you, the player, experience the suck.

Thank you for proving the point of the exact paragraph you grabbed.

[76561197988918266]

Originally posted by destructicons:

Originally posted by BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:

The reality is that most of this pc version's cost is supported by console version(console version already existing with all of the content, and pc version being a low effort port). Unlike gundam evolution which had to be made from scratch.

People spend on this game. Look at any of the DLC pages. They have quite a lot of reviews (although some of them are just rants from people who clearly never purchased).

Originally posted by BOKU Haram | Boki Harem:

It being a f2p game and having trouble finding matches(there are times when even A/B rooms are nonexistent without a few min of searching) is not that different from being dead.
Whether they're making money or not has nothing to do with whether you, the player, experience the suck.

Thank you for proving the point of the exact paragraph you grabbed.

Once again people spending on this game has nothing to do with whether this game's population is alive or not.
Outside JP/China it's atrocious.

So you proved that you had no point?