"NEW" GBO2 Players don't know the struggle [LONG POST]

[RyuumiGaroukuni]

Its kinda "Funny" how some "NEW" GBO2 players are complaining and shick... but they don't know how GOOD they have compared some of "US" veterans who have been playing this game SINCE "Gundam Battle Operation 1" and "Gundam Battle Operation Next"

Let me tell you guys some THINGS that be glad that GBO2 didn't get from GBO1 and GBO Next.

Gundam Battle Operation 1: You're stuck between Zeon or Federation and if you got a GOOD Suit you want to use, but its on the Zeon/Federation side... you're gonna have to struggle on the matching queue in getting into one of the sides unless you're OK with the side you want to use and stuff.

BOTH Gundam Battle Operation 1 and Gundam Battle Operation Next:
The DREADED Energy System - both games utilise an energy system in which one match you use up an energy and have to wait for two hours to refill that energy and it maxes out a THREE. So you're gonna have to wait SIX hours to play another circuit of three games... OR you can SPEND money to get "reserve" energy in order to play more... and they RARELY give "Reserve" energy for you to use. There's NO custom matches around... but there is a "Training" area where you can try out suits.
Unlocking Suits/Weapons - this one is UTTERLY horrendous and be FREAKING thankful that GBO2 didn't apply this one to their game. Let's say you want to unlock the Zeta or the Exia... well you're gonna have to pray and hope that a part "drops" for you so you can start the grind... pray and HOPE that breeze through in getting those parts since they can ONLY be acquired during their "banner" and if you DIDN'T get to complete the suit and have it stuck like 8/10 or 90%... the wait begins and pray and hope that the suit will have a banner soon. GOD! I remember when I had to wait for maybe SIX months or a YEAR to unlock both the Gundam Mudrock, Efreet Nacht, Hyaku Shiki and the Wing Gundam cuz their "Banners" aren't showing up and brought me back some nightmares in my time playing both games.

Well there's my LONG Discussion on the "GRIND" that GBO1 and GBO Next players HAD to go through in playing and unlocking suits.

[ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ]

This post is the equivalent to your parents or grandparents saying how good you have it, not having to walk miles on foot just to get to school. We're in 2023, the standards have changed. If the game isn't willing to adapt, the player base leaves and plays something else.

[hunttheimpeared]

Nguyên văn bởi ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ:

This post is the equivalent to your parents or grandparents saying how good you have it, not having to walk miles on foot just to get to school. We're in 2023, the standards have changed. If the game isn't willing to adapt, the player base leaves and plays something else.

I gotta agree here, just kinda feels like a troll post? Like I'm sorry OP went through such an abusive relationship with that game but I don't see why anybody needed to know about how much more ♥♥♥♥ the series used to be (not to say this game is entire ♥♥♥♥ but the launch definitely is). I would have just chalked that game as a loss and moved on to play something else. Only grind I hate in this game is the fact that I can't because of penalties literally allowing no progress to grind so I guess I'll try my luck in this then,

"Oh YOU thought the the GBO1 grind was BAD? Getting to play 3 games every 6 hours to GRIND out for suits? Try only being able to be able to play ONCE every 5 DAYS for a chance to play 20 games to MAYBE earn the CHANCE to earn currency again to GRIND for suits. have the bad luck to DISCONNECT once in those 20 GAMES, well see you again in 5 DAYS to try AGAIN"

Once again I just don't get it, no hate to the poster, I just don't see how this is relevant but hey, that game ain't my trauma.

[Jackalope ♥♥♥♥♥♥]

I still haven't played the actual game because after 5 minutes(including unskippable cutscenes) the game gives me a game version error and crashes. The woes of a grind mean nothing when I'm stuck in a Groundhog Day loop of the same 5 minutes of tutorial.

[Deathb3rry]

Mindless rant with no legitimacy. You put yourself through an awful grind then blame new GBO2 players like they were responsible for your experience lol

[Vinny Garl]

But did they have the stun melee meta?

[FullCross]

Nguyên văn bởi Lavian:

Back in my day, we had to walk to school. Uphill! Both ways!

How is that even work.

[MPRA2]

Nguyên văn bởi Khergit Horse Archer:

Nguyên văn bởi MPRA2:

I mean, I've never played a Gundam game in my entire life and I..... uhh...... enjoy....? this game. I just have 3 major problems. Progression is tied to doing absolutely bass ackwards challenges. I will be stuck as Pvt 1st Class for the rest of time because getting 3 rival wins is downright impossible because I'm not good at the game and will probably never improve. F, I will never be able to customize my MS.......
Second, Japan's absolute fetishization of stun-lock spam in fighting games. Also goes with the toxicity of players and people who abuse the mechanics because they sleep, eat, breathe, and defecate fighting games like GBO2.
Finally there's the Penalty system. I could go on and on about it banning people for ragequitting or for silly stuff like the internet having a split second outage because Comcast; the world's greatest internet company that has no problems whatsoever. Genuinely, looking at harsh penalties for quitting will only make people angrier, and end up just never playing the game again, shrinking the already tiny playerbase down to literally nothing. Sure you can call them entitled babies, but thats just..... I don't even know..... Anger doesn't even describe how I feel towards the game right now after trying to grind out those 3 rival wins for the past 5 hours with NO result whatsoever....... But uhhhhh Yeah I'm glad I never played the other games. I actually would have thrown myself out of a building with a rope if I had to go through all that....... Other than all that The game is fine for the most part.... The gacha mechanics aren't FORCING you to buy ingame stuff, you regularly get tokens to spend on funny shiny boxes, and uhhhh.... I dunno... I don't really see an incentive to spend money on anything unless I was a hardcore Gundam series fan, which.... I'm not..... My friend held me at gunpoint to play this game with him since Ubisoft refuses to work on my computer.

bruh how can you not get 3 rival wins

it's ez af and i'm a pc noobie not a ps4 sweatlord

i love to just use gun cannon mass prod and shoot in the 300-400 quick space battles, those are very ez to get high scores in with that suit.

you need to be able to aim and lead but it's so easy broooooooooooooooooo

I can aim for the most part with ballistic weapons and rockets, beam weapons are a whole new monster that I just refuse to touch because of the delay in firing and the slow projectile speed at range.

Anyways, I found a gundam that I absolutely love playing. The GP04 MLRS. I actually do pretty decent with it, only downside is that the barrage missiles have zero splash damage for whatever reason. I'm not Bandai so I don't even begin to fathom what goes on in their brains.
Its not that I'm THAT bad at the game, sure I'm still a noob, sure I still can't wrap my brain around the perma stun lock mechanics and how absolutely awkward the MS are to control, but after having a week long ban because I DARED to stop playing a match for 10 seconds because we were getting seal clubbed and I wanted to get a drink, having to play like....... uhhhh 25 or so rated matches to get back down to Caution status, and then finally getting the Lieutenant promotion mission just to get constantly railed by team mates that don't even press W and just sit right outside of spawn, and people who I swear to christ are borderline cheating.

I just can't.... I can't get rival wins when I'm constantly picked off and perma-stun locked by the entire team because my team just refuses to stay near me and runs away from me. Me being a support MS, I can't catch up to them that easily or run away myself. The teams and the balance as a whole is pretty much why I can never get this done. I've played the game with a friend during that 6 hour period and even with the friend, we still got clubbed. I have War Thunder railing me every day I play it, I don't have room for another game to do the same....

[Aldain]

Only beam weapons I just can't get a grip on are Beam Snipers like the one used by the GM Sniper line.

I can hit with the GM Sniper II's ballistic rifle just fine, but charged or uncharged I always wind up having issues with beam versions for some reason.

[Suthirak_D42]

I spam shots but rarely stag enemy. Enemy 1 shot me and crippled every time.

[Dom]

Too long didnt read, but this gave me the "back in my day" vibe where almost every person bound to say at some point

[pseudo]

I skimmed the OP and I just gotta say you're doing a major disservice framing this as a "new players just don't get it" thread. I was prepared for something completely different with that title. It's interesting to hear about GBO1 however, and tbh I think the Zeon vs Feddies idea is pretty cool.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Nguyên văn bởi MPRA2:

Nguyên văn bởi Khergit Horse Archer:

bruh how can you not get 3 rival wins

it's ez af and i'm a pc noobie not a ps4 sweatlord

i love to just use gun cannon mass prod and shoot in the 300-400 quick space battles, those are very ez to get high scores in with that suit.

you need to be able to aim and lead but it's so easy broooooooooooooooooo

I can aim for the most part with ballistic weapons and rockets, beam weapons are a whole new monster that I just refuse to touch because of the delay in firing and the slow projectile speed at range. Anyways, I found a gundam that I absolutely love playing. The GP04 MLRS. I actually do pretty decent with it, only downside is that the barrage missiles have zero splash damage for whatever reason. I'm not Bandai so I don't even begin to fathom what goes on in their brains. Its not that I'm THAT bad at the game, sure I'm still a noob, sure I still can't wrap my brain around the perma stun lock mechanics and how absolutely awkward the MS are to control, but after having a week long ban because I DARED to stop playing a match for 10 seconds because we were getting seal clubbed and I wanted to get a drink, having to play like....... uhhhh 25 or so rated matches to get back down to Caution status, and then finally getting the Lieutenant promotion mission just to get constantly railed by team mates that don't even press W and just sit right outside of spawn, and people who I swear to christ are borderline cheating, I just can't.... I can't get rival wins when I'm constantly picked off and perma-stun locked by the entire team because my team just refuses to stay near me and runs away from me. Me being a support MS, I can't catch up to them that easily or run away myself. The teams and the balance as a whole is pretty much why I can never get this done. I've played the game with a friend during that 6 hour period and even with the friend, we still got clubbed. I have War Thunder railing me every day I play it, I don't have room for another game to do the same....

all you need to know is some weapons just stun better than others, you need to familiarize yourself with the suit's weapon loadout. for example zaku marine type's quad missile will almost always stun on a full hit, opening up your enemies to melee and combo to death. while his other missiles, those with more than a dozen of shots, are more for dealing chip damage at range and not dangerous.

i mean wartinder is the same thing, although it is much easier to carry a game in it than this. this game just relies alot more on game knowledge like what type of suits are they? i.e. raid/support/general and what sort of weapon cycles/combo can you pull off etc

i guess the difference here is that in wartinder, you can memorise the weak spots of a tank and strengths of your ammo, but it all comes down to landing the shot. whereas in this game, getting the hit is easy but landing the crucial hit is the key.

foot note: please use paragraphs instead of this giant wall of text, it's freaken hard to read. i just threw it into chatgpt to summarise for me lel

[MPRA2]

Nguyên văn bởi Khergit Horse Archer:

Nguyên văn bởi MPRA2:

I can aim for the most part with ballistic weapons and rockets, beam weapons are a whole new monster that I just refuse to touch because of the delay in firing and the slow projectile speed at range. Anyways, I found a gundam that I absolutely love playing. The GP04 MLRS. I actually do pretty decent with it, only downside is that the barrage missiles have zero splash damage for whatever reason. I'm not Bandai so I don't even begin to fathom what goes on in their brains. Its not that I'm THAT bad at the game, sure I'm still a noob, sure I still can't wrap my brain around the perma stun lock mechanics and how absolutely awkward the MS are to control, but after having a week long ban because I DARED to stop playing a match for 10 seconds because we were getting seal clubbed and I wanted to get a drink, having to play like....... uhhhh 25 or so rated matches to get back down to Caution status, and then finally getting the Lieutenant promotion mission just to get constantly railed by team mates that don't even press W and just sit right outside of spawn, and people who I swear to christ are borderline cheating, I just can't.... I can't get rival wins when I'm constantly picked off and perma-stun locked by the entire team because my team just refuses to stay near me and runs away from me. Me being a support MS, I can't catch up to them that easily or run away myself. The teams and the balance as a whole is pretty much why I can never get this done. I've played the game with a friend during that 6 hour period and even with the friend, we still got clubbed. I have War Thunder railing me every day I play it, I don't have room for another game to do the same....

all you need to know is some weapons just stun better than others, you need to familiarize yourself with the suit's weapon loadout. for example zaku marine type's quad missile will almost always stun on a full hit, opening up your enemies to melee and combo to death. while his other missiles, those with more than a dozen of shots, are more for dealing chip damage at range and not dangerous.

i mean wartinder is the same thing, although it is much easier to carry a game in it than this. this game just relies alot more on game knowledge like what type of suits are they? i.e. raid/support/general and what sort of weapon cycles/combo can you pull off etc

i guess the difference here is that in wartinder, you can memorise the weak spots of a tank and strengths of your ammo, but it all comes down to landing the shot. whereas in this game, getting the hit is easy but landing the crucial hit is the key.

foot note: please use paragraphs instead of this giant wall of text, it's freaken hard to read. i just threw it into chatgpt to summarise for me lel

Amazing. Yeah sorry about that, I'm gonna go back and edit all my text after I write this.

I basically have a phobia of melee combat in video games and this game is an exaggeration of it. Kind of a reason why I prefer the long range support MS. Every time I've tried it my MS lunges like 0.1 feet while enemy MS no matter what class they are can lunge 20. Sometimes I'll land a hit but game says "lol nope". Then there will be times where the game wants to be funny and be like: "oh you stunned an enemy and closed the gap while taking out your melee? lets have him instantly get back up and melee stun you to death before you can even take out your melee weapon".

My aim would be a lot more consistent and I'd be landing more critical hits if the game actually ran well. It barely uses 50% of my CPU/GPU/RAM and I can at MOST get 42FPS ingame and in the lobby. menus are the same. I've seen you in the performance thread and IIRC you replied to one of my posts regarding my Medieval era PC but either way, should not be getting performance this bad when the game barely uses my computer's resources.

[RyuumiGaroukuni]

Nguyên văn bởi Jinyo:

But did they have the stun melee meta?

Yes they did!

[RyuumiGaroukuni]

Nguyên văn bởi pseudo:

I skimmed the OP and I just gotta say you're doing a major disservice framing this as a "new players just don't get it" thread. I was prepared for something completely different with that title. It's interesting to hear about GBO1 however, and tbh I think the Zeon vs Feddies idea is pretty cool.

Indeed it's a cool idea... they even had "situation" battles where you get to recreate certain events during the One Year War. People where like queuing up in these situation battles that they'd hope to be the ace suit but many are placed in grunt suits