So umm.. what to do if you run out of unipolar magnets

[X-SR71]

Suppose you miscalculated the amount of unipolar magnets in your whole cluster, used them all up to make Particle Containers, and realized you ended up with none...

Would you be unable to build any more Plane Smelters? I hadn't notice how rare they are...

[vkobe]

you use the alt path

i dont remember the recipe

[Koro]

I guess you can't build more plane smelters but the normal ones are just fine. I have argued before that they aren't worth it.
Worse is having to make strange matter the normal way only now. It's a really long recipe.
I think it exists two places in your whole galaxy. Did you use both?
I would recommend using unipolar magnets almost exclusively to research vein utilization so that you don't run out of it.
I would start over with all the lessons you've learned or if you haven't run out completely install the mod that makes resources infinite

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That's unattractive. I guess you'll have to use the plain smelters.

[Koro]

Originally posted by JtD:

That's unattractive. I guess you'll have to use the plain smelters.

Hilarious 😀

[Shahadem]

We really should be able to produce Unipolar magnets from Iron.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Shahadem:

We really should be able to produce Unipolar magnets from Iron.

We really should be able to make a fictitious item from something mundane.

The idea behind the magnetic monopoles (this is the correct term btw) is that they are found in places in the universe where the universe is defying the natural order, like neutron stars and black holes. If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?

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Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

Originally posted by Shahadem:

We really should be able to produce Unipolar magnets from Iron.

We really should be able to make a fictitious item from something mundane.

The idea behind the magnetic monopoles (this is the correct term btw) is that they are found in places in the universe where the universe is defying the natural order, like neutron stars and black holes. If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?

I have to agree with Chthonbeard iron is too mundane by itself. Perhaps an artificial black hole or neutron star machine at the end of the tech tree could be involved.

[Ohm is Futile]

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

Originally posted by Shahadem:

We really should be able to produce Unipolar magnets from Iron.

We really should be able to make a fictitious item from something mundane.

The idea behind the magnetic monopoles (this is the correct term btw) is that they are found in places in the universe where the universe is defying the natural order, like neutron stars and black holes. If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?

That makes no sense. What is "mundane," "common," "rare" is all defined by the developers in the end. To me it makes no sense that a building we may want in large quantities of requires one of the most limited resources in the game. There's also no reason we couldn't make more. To make it interesting, it could be a third mode on ray receivers that's only available for spheres built around a black hole or neutron star. Could need to feed iron plates to the receivers, and out comes unipolar magnets.

It's all made up anyway.

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Originally posted by Ohm is Futile:

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

We really should be able to make a fictitious item from something mundane.

The idea behind the magnetic monopoles (this is the correct term btw) is that they are found in places in the universe where the universe is defying the natural order, like neutron stars and black holes. If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?

That makes no sense. What is "mundane," "common," "rare" is all defined by the developers in the end. To me it makes no sense that a building we may want in large quantities of requires one of the most limited resources in the game. There's also no reason we couldn't make more. To make it interesting, it could be a third mode on ray receivers that's only available for spheres built around a black hole or neutron star. Could need to feed iron plates to the receivers, and out comes unipolar magnets.

It's all made up anyway.

I like the idea behind this but I don't picture ray receivers manipulating iron ore. If receivers around a black hole or neutron star could use the new mode to produce a unique material that could be fed into something else like an artificial black hole or neutron star then it would make more sense to me. The game tries to be scientific about all of the tech even if it is game-ified.

[Knottypine]

Originally posted by Ohm is Futile:

To make it interesting, it could be a third mode on ray receivers that's only available for spheres built around a black hole or neutron star. Could need to feed iron plates to the receivers, and out comes unipolar magnets.

It's all made up anyway.

Oh, I like that idea.

[CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate]

Originally posted by Ohm is Futile:

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

We really should be able to make a fictitious item from something mundane.

The idea behind the magnetic monopoles (this is the correct term btw) is that they are found in places in the universe where the universe is defying the natural order, like neutron stars and black holes. If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?

That makes no sense. What is "mundane," "common," "rare" is all defined by the developers in the end. To me it makes no sense that a building we may want in large quantities of requires one of the most limited resources in the game. There's also no reason we couldn't make more. To make it interesting, it could be a third mode on ray receivers that's only available for spheres built around a black hole or neutron star. Could need to feed iron plates to the receivers, and out comes unipolar magnets.

It's all made up anyway.

Well there you go, now you aren't just making magnetic monopoles out of iron. You are bending the forces of reality to your will first. That sounds more in line with what I was talking about. Why are you getting angry and arguing now?

[Ohm is Futile]

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

Well there you go, now you aren't just making magnetic monopoles out of iron. You are bending the forces of reality to your will first. That sounds more in line with what I was talking about. Why are you getting angry and arguing now?

Idk, now that I re-read your post, I'm not sure what you meant... but stuff like "If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?" really annoys me. It's unhelpful and strangely rigid thinking for video game development where the goal should be fun and balance rather than being bound by questionable logic.

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Originally posted by Ohm is Futile:

Originally posted by CPT Chthonbeard the Pirate:

Well there you go, now you aren't just making magnetic monopoles out of iron. You are bending the forces of reality to your will first. That sounds more in line with what I was talking about. Why are you getting angry and arguing now?

Idk, now that I re-read your post, I'm not sure what you meant... but stuff like "If we could just defy the natural order on the fly, why would we even need a Dyson Sphere?" really annoys me. It's unhelpful and strangely rigid thinking for video game development where the goal should be fun and balance rather than being bound by questionable logic.

I think you misinterpreted him. He meant turning iron into unipole magnets without advanced tech was a bad idea. The iron poster never said they wanted advanced tech involved.

[Ohm is Futile]

Originally posted by A.A.:

I think you misinterpreted him. He meant turning iron into unipole magnets without advanced tech was a bad idea. The iron poster never said they wanted advanced tech involved.

Aah, you're probably right, but then again, no one said it should be easy either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Kyrros]

Unipoles, thankfully, aren't required - they're just a shortcut for the regular recipe. While running out can be a PITA, knowing they're super rare should be an incentive to make sure they're used wisely and not before you've advanced sufficiently in your infinite researches, especially Mining Efficiency.