Dyson Sphere Program

Dyson Sphere Program

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MrCline Jul 2, 2024 @ 4:48am
Why is DSPGame.exe sending data to Hangzhou Alibaba Advertising Co.,Ltd?
I do not recall seeing any verbiage stating this game is going to send information to China or asking if I agree. Did I miss something?

DSPGame.exe connecting to: 8.140.162.132
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GhrominIronfist Jul 2, 2024 @ 10:32am 
The devs are chinese.
cswiger Jul 2, 2024 @ 12:13pm 
See Settings -> Gameplay -> Data upload to the Milky Way.

If you don't want to participate in the online leaderboard, then you can switch it to anonymous or disable it entirely. As for your agreement, refer to sections 2A, 2B, and 4:

https://store.steampowered.com/subscriber_agreement
cswiger Jul 3, 2024 @ 6:01pm 
Why would it be a surprise that Chinese developers might use Alibaba for online hosting?
cswiger Jul 3, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by HaddockA:
Originally posted by cswiger:
Why would it be a surprise that Chinese developers might use Alibaba for online hosting?
What are you trying to say?
Why would I answer an obviously rhetorical question?

There is no harm in hosting at Alibaba? In this case "Alibaba ADVERTISING"?
Correct, there is very probably zero harm in Youthcat hosting DSP's Milky Way leaderboard on the 8.136.0.0/13 netblock owned by Alibaba Advertising.

If you can show otherwise, I'd be happy to review the tcpdump analysis of the traffic.
Or maybe you don't realize that a /13 is about a half-million IPv4 addresses...?
cswiger Jul 3, 2024 @ 7:10pm 
Deleting one's posts after someone captures them in a reply is a winning strategy.
(For the other person, that is. :-)

Alibaba and Tencent are China's equivalents to Amazon and Google. Perhaps someone will be astonished to discover that many games written in the US talk to an CIDR netblock owned by Amazon AWS or Google Cloud...?
cswiger Jul 3, 2024 @ 9:08pm 
Thanks for acknowledging that you deleted your comment.

The burden of proof is to supply evidence for a claim, not to disprove a negative.

So far, you've failed to provide any evidence that DSP's network traffic to 8.140.162.132 is malicious or contains sensitive personal information. Your point appears to be that you concede that you aren't able to provide such evidence, and aren't willing to even try.
joebobku Jul 3, 2024 @ 10:03pm 
DSP is a Chinese owned and developed game.
nix Jul 4, 2024 @ 2:51am 
Alibaba is an advertising company the way Google Cloud is an advertising company. Actually, less so: Google makes nearly all their money from advertising. Alibaba, these days, only a small fraction. Some companies just change their names very rarely, that's all, and Alibaba was once an advertising company.
Jahaga Jul 4, 2024 @ 3:36am 
Nerds.
nix Jul 4, 2024 @ 3:48am 
Well yes, we *are* playing Dyson Sphere Program, it goes with the territory (unless your day job is in circuit design, when it's probably too much like work)
cswiger Jul 4, 2024 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by HaddockA:
Why thank me for acknowledging the deletion of my comment?
Why do you keep asking obvious rhetorical questions?

It was unnecessary, as the intelligence of the individuals here is evident, and I have already explained the reason for its removal.
Yet you went out of your way to offer an unnecessary correction of "Alibaba" to "Alibaba ADVERTISING", even though that point was mentioned in the thread title.

And then you deleted your correction. And then you mentioned it again. How fickle.

My question remains: Is hosting on Alibaba, specifically Alibaba Advertising, harmless?
Already asked in the other post you deleted, and already answered in #8 and #12.

Frankly, you make a terrible sea lion. How about we agree that you should not delete your posts or edit them after the fact...?
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Date Posted: Jul 2, 2024 @ 4:48am
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