Dark Fog relay stations without hive?

[pemmons1]

Another relay station has just landed on an aquatica planet two light years from home.

I need this planet for its rich stalagmite crystal and cannot afford its being threatened. Rather than go to the bother of defending it with shields (which would at least require a lot of foundation) after destroying several prior bases, I also destroyed the hive in this system. But now they're back on the planet.

Can the Dark Fog put a relay station on a planet with no hive in the system? I thought this couldn't happen. It happened very shortly after I destroyed the hive and I concluded that it had been launched before I attacked the hive, but this new one arrived considerably later.

A related question: My home planet is partially defended with planetary shields. I deliberately left a vacant region undefended in hopes of inviting a relay station somewhere in that area for "farming." This has recently happened, but I forgot that the hive saps power from the Dyson Sphere. Can I destroy the hive and keep the relay base in place?

[cswiger]

Can the Dark Fog put a relay station on a planet with no hive in the system?

No, but if you didn't destroy all of the relays before taking out the hive, they will rebuild it.
And if you clear the system entirely, a seed from another hive will eventually be sent.

Can I destroy the hive and keep the relay base in place?

No. A relay without a hive doesn't get power income, so it stops building ground stuff, leaves the planet for space, and then rebuilds the hive.

[Cheet4h]

Originally posted by pemmons1:

Rather than go to the bother of defending it with shields (which would at least require a lot of foundation) [...]

It wouldn't need *that* many foundations - you only need minimal shield coverage of the planet to prevent relay stations from landing, so building 12 shield generators is sufficient to cover the entire planet:

Originally posted by cswiger:

[...] you can get by with just 12 total using three rings of four. Four spaced at 0/90/180/270 at the equator and four in two rings at 60 degrees N/S gives these results:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127617672
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127619570
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3127621896

[pemmons1]

I understand that just eight shield generators will suffice: one at each pole and six around the equators at 60-degree intervals. I suppose I'd better do it because, as cswiger observes, eventually a new hive will arrive in the system. It's good to be prepared because when they come, they seem to come everywhere at once and suddenly you're scrambling.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by pemmons1:

Another relay station has just landed on an aquatica planet two light years from home.

I need this planet for its rich stalagmite crystal and cannot afford its being threatened. Rather than go to the bother of defending it with shields (which would at least require a lot of foundation) after destroying several prior bases, I also destroyed the hive in this system. But now they're back on the planet.

Can the Dark Fog put a relay station on a planet with no hive in the system? I thought this couldn't happen. It happened very shortly after I destroyed the hive and I concluded that it had been launched before I attacked the hive, but this new one arrived considerably later.

A related question: My home planet is partially defended with planetary shields. I deliberately left a vacant region undefended in hopes of inviting a relay station somewhere in that area for "farming." This has recently happened, but I forgot that the hive saps power from the Dyson Sphere. Can I destroy the hive and keep the relay base in place?

they are not centralized and going to annoy you, if you dont full kill them

they are equivalent to tyranid, flood

[pemmons1]

The situation in this system is strange. If I am on any of its planets, in the upper left corner is a notice about a hive, level 3 apparently, with the caption "core destroyed." It is not on the starmap, If I try to fly to it, its location is somewhere way out in space and I can't set it as a destination. But Dark Fog bases keep forming on the aquatica planet. Did I unknowingly fail to destroy the hive fully? If so, what can be done about it now, since I can't even find it?

Yes, I shall install planetary shield generators, because I can't babysit the planet forever, the extra power I get from using the remains for geothermal exceeds what I need, and I have plenty of energy exchangers charging in more convenient places. Still curious about the situation...

[cswiger]

You've destroyed the core but not all of the relays. Do it the other way around.

[pemmons1]

Thanks, I didn't know about that. Where do we find the relays? I'm pretty sure the DF had no stations on the planet when I went after the hive.

[vkobe]

Originally posted by pemmons1:

Thanks, I didn't know about that. Where do we find the relays? I'm pretty sure the DF had no stations on the planet when I went after the hive.

relays back to space when you destroy ground installation and block the hole

but they continue to send them from another solar system, so it depend how many stars your cluster has

[Typhoid Mary]

Make sure you clean the relays from all the planets in the solar system. If there are other relays on other planets orbiting the star, they will send energy back to rebuild the core.