Excuse me if i'm a little infuriated.

[Abhorrent]

So. Dyson Sphere Program has crapped on me twice. The first time, I'm on a ice world and the game starts lagging really bad randomly and then the interface is completely gone and i can see my computer wall paper. But i'm still in the game. i can click on what i know whats there and stuff so i figure. ill click the invisible exit game button. so I can quit it. Nothing i was doing allowed me to see the game again. But now. Every single time i load up. 1 fps for over 20 minutes, then i finally get in the game and it remains 1 fps CONSTANTLY. So i figure its a files issue and I delete the game and reinstall. But why would that work. Steam apparently doesnt delete most of the game actually so i have to delete the files manually. that almost worked, then somehow, it did work. i did end up actually getting me in the game with no lag all of a sudden. so i play for a day. next day, logon. I'm on a different ice planet now but oh? Immediately after loading in it craps on me again and cant see my game. So i exited again. and here i am now after deleting and reloading the ENTIRE ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ GAME AT LEAST 15 TIMES HOW THE HELLLLLLLL DOES IT NOT GET RID OF THE ISSUE? YES I VERIFIED THE FILES. YES I SEPARATED MY SAVE GAMES AS THAT ACTUALLY MADE THE MOST SENSE. But nothing works and as someone else said, all the real fixes relating to the files code and changing stuff seems way to complicated. All im asking is for this issue to be addressed by a dev so laymen like me stricken with this issue dont have to stop playing the game on the same hardware forever. Because i am genuinely confused how this is physically possible to happen to a game. Like, i might understand INSIDE the save game when your playing. But when your booting up too? How does this HAPPEN?!

[VanHellspawn]

Same thing has been happening to me. All started after Dark Fog. Very frustrating as it happens quite randomly.

[Abhorrent]

Update... i have since recovered my frames and i can play the game. after all my manual file deletions. taking it slow, normal deleting the game, reinstalling, then restarting my computer seemed to fix it. Patience is a virtue I don't have.

[webboy7]

i don't think you can run the dyson sphere program on a IBM XT computer... sorry...

[Canned Goods]

Originally posted by Abhorrent:

Update... i have since recovered my frames and i can play the game. after all my manual file deletions. taking it slow, normal deleting the game, reinstalling, then restarting my computer seemed to fix it. Patience is a virtue I don't have.

What is the file path to ensure you delete all files manually?
My game is completely unplayable since Dark Fog. Maybe it's less frustrating because the game doesn't tease me by letting me start to play.

[VanHellspawn]

Fixed - I finally got to the bottom of the issue. It had nothing to do with the game and everything to do with my 1080ti overheating due to the fan not being turned on automatically. Why?? -I don't fully know yet but my solution was to manually turn on the fan to keep the GPU temp hovering around 60 c and no more issues whatsoever. I am still trying to figure out why the auto fan control is not working but at least I can play without freezing/crashing any longer. Cheers!! :)

[dragonsphotoworks]

Another option for high GPU games and heat. Remove side panel of CPU.. BUT DONT leave wide open. Get some window screen "the fine mesh one with tiny holes that stops no see ums" And build a new side panel for case. Then place a floor fan aimed into case. Watch your temps as dont want to go too low as well. But if gets too hot this will possible help a lot. I i did on old pc when played ark for at least 1-2 years lol

EDIT - Too add also check screen to clean it when gets too much dust on it.

[jamiechi]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Another option for high GPU games and heat. Remove side panel of CPU.. BUT DONT leave wide open. Get some window screen "the fine mesh one with tiny holes that stops no see ums" And build a new side panel for case. Then place a floor fan aimed into case. Watch your temps as dont want to go too low as well. But if gets too hot this will possible help a lot. I i did on old pc when played ark for at least 1-2 years lol

EDIT - Too add also check screen to clean it when gets too much dust on it.

This is similar to what I do. Except that I just remove the side panel and lay the pc so the open area is face up. And I don't add the window screen.
Also I use compressed air to blow out the pc as needed to remove the dust.

I have never, ever seen or heard anyone mention the need to worry about the 'temps' getting too low before. I don't believe that is an issue unless you are in a room that is close to, or is freezing. (I have many years experience working in Computer rooms and as a Computer Engineer. This just does not happen.)

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by jamiechi:

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

Another option for high GPU games and heat. Remove side panel of CPU.. BUT DONT leave wide open. Get some window screen "the fine mesh one with tiny holes that stops no see ums" And build a new side panel for case. Then place a floor fan aimed into case. Watch your temps as dont want to go too low as well. But if gets too hot this will possible help a lot. I i did on old pc when played ark for at least 1-2 years lol

EDIT - Too add also check screen to clean it when gets too much dust on it.

This is similar to what I do. Except that I just remove the side panel and lay the pc so the open area is face up. And I don't add the window screen.
Also I use compressed air to blow out the pc as needed to remove the dust.

I have never, ever seen or heard anyone mention the need to worry about the 'temps' getting too low before. I don't believe that is an issue unless you are in a room that is close to, or is freezing. (I have many years experience working in Computer rooms and as a Computer Engineer. This just does not happen.)

I was backwards I admit. I was misremembering study I read. Actually cooler IS better. I was half asleep is my excuse :-)

Originally posted by HaddockA:

Originally posted by jamiechi:

Except that I just remove the side panel and lay the pc so the open area is face up. And I don't add the window screen.

Both of you seriously need to learn how to build a computer, that's for sure.

How so?

[josmith7]

Originally posted by jamiechi:

I have never, ever seen or heard anyone mention the need to worry about the 'temps' getting too low before. I don't believe that is an issue unless you are in a room that is close to, or is freezing. (I have many years experience working in Computer rooms and as a Computer Engineer. This just does not happen.)

Technically there's a bit of a concern if you manage to actively cool part of the PC below the current dew point - even if that's well above freezing - because that that point water will start condensing out of the air. And water and electronics...
But that'd still be a pretty exotic level of cooling - and something only fairly extreme overclockers might run into.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Originally posted by josmith7:

Originally posted by jamiechi:

I have never, ever seen or heard anyone mention the need to worry about the 'temps' getting too low before. I don't believe that is an issue unless you are in a room that is close to, or is freezing. (I have many years experience working in Computer rooms and as a Computer Engineer. This just does not happen.)

Technically there's a bit of a concern if you manage to actively cool part of the PC below the current dew point - even if that's well above freezing - because that that point water will start condensing out of the air. And water and electronics...
But that'd still be a pretty exotic level of cooling - and something only fairly extreme overclockers might run into.

Ya it was on a video where used liquid "hydrogen" think it was to super cool system. And they went too cold. Might be what I was thinking at the time. Also dew point was some thing I was thinking about. But that was due to using a aircon to cool a system in past. I seem to have gotten a lot mixed up. But in end the screen and floor fan did work. My old system had great GPU at time but its cooling was crap. So I did screen with 2 high flow fans to cool system while played ARK. Went from over 95 down to around 76 or so. Still higher then I like. I prefer steady 68 or lower lol But was playable.

[dragonsphotoworks]

I stated to replace with a screen. Since case already has vents in it doesnt seem a issue. And this is only for short term use. As actual cooling obviously better. And considering a floor fan just over sized internal fan whats the difference? Considering the need for air flow is always there. An increase would be good. I dont mean jam fan up against case. But a small external fan aimed towards case is not going to hurt it. And with having a screen it protects from dust as well.

Also I did not state to place case on side. Or to leave case open. Since you act as a tech then explain. If im wrong I would like to know why. considering I did it for over a year and PC ran fine.

[margalus]

Originally posted by dragonsphotoworks:

I stated to replace with a screen. Since case already has vents in it doesnt seem a issue. And this is only for short term use. As actual cooling obviously better. And considering a floor fan just over sized internal fan whats the difference? Considering the need for air flow is always there. An increase would be good. I dont mean jam fan up against case. But a small external fan aimed towards case is not going to hurt it. And with having a screen it protects from dust as well.

Also I did not state to place case on side. Or to leave case open. Since you act as a tech then explain. If im wrong I would like to know why. considering I did it for over a year and PC ran fine.

You shouldn't have to do anything of the sort though. If the pc is getting too hot it is built wrong, period.

[dragonsphotoworks]

Not exactly true. If try run game that requires more then PC has.. systems will over work and get hot. Not every one can have a super computer built "right" due to cost. For example my old pc ran great for 80% of my games. So yes was built right. But for games like ARK which require lot higher specs it would struggle which caused heat. Therefore adding the fan kept hardware within heat tolerances and allowed play of the game. I worked on building new pc to handle it natively but that took time. So the fan and screen trick boosted PC enough to be able to play for the year it took to upgrade. Though I will agree if add the proper cooling to system thats better way to go. But if person cant afford 200-500$ for a cooler install. A 40$ floor fan and an old screen is viable alternative till can.

Also saying if gets hot its built wrong is not correct. Lot of systems will heat up if stress them. Which falls on the software your trying to run. PC can be built 100% to specs and still heat if built for 2015 games and try run a 2024 game. Its if system can handle the demand not only if built correctly. A workstation can be built perfectly for database work. But if try run a high end game will overheat and bottleneck. Its how pc designed and what it is built FOR. So in way guess your right about being built right.. if mean build a top end gaming rig for games. Then ya needs lot of cooling built in and right high end parts. But then thats a custom direct design. Not just a "right" built PC. But a designed for use system.

[cswiger]

It's OK to have no idea how to spec an adequate cooling system for PC hardware. However, one should refrain from advising others on a topic that you don't understand yourself.

Any competent OEM-- nevermind top-tier talent like Frog Design or Jony Ive-- looks up the max TDP for all of the components and designs the system thermals such that everything can operate at 100% load and still receive sufficient cooling. Dell and HP do not ask whether you are going to use a machine to run games or a database. They do not provide different fan configurations for folks who might run games published after the hardware was built.

The actual math is CFM ~= 1.8 * Watts of TDP / delta T. A typical 65 W CPU needs a bit over 5 CFM to stay around 50 C if provided with 25 C external air. A generic PC with 200 W of total power usage between all components needs around 35 CFM for a delta T of 10 C, and a gaming PC with a high-end GPU pulling up to 250 W by itself needs around 100 CFM.

Properly designed ATX case cooling is straightforward. You want to implement intake fans at the front with a CFM rating which exceeds the CFM of the rear exhaust fan of the PSU, the GPU, and maybe an optional second exhaust fan by the CPU heatsink+fan. This creates a positive partial pressure inside the case which helps keep dust out, and uses a wind tunnel effect created by the case itself to provide sufficient airflow by all active components.

Removing a case side panel disrupts the normal airflow and prevents the positive partial pressure from happening. Having to point an external fan at an open case is a sign that you're doing things wrong. So don't do that. And don't recommend that others do that.

[rjblueskies]

I've been receiving a big red error unauthorizedaccessexception in the upper right of the screen. The game still runs, but the error message will not go away and I've pretty much tried everything under the sun. Extremely frustrating. Given the number of issues I'm seeing, I assume this is just yet another problem. I might wait until they release a fix or something.