"Fast Transfer" feature broken ?

[Ragnaman]

it says I can ctrl + LMB click to fill/take items, but this feature is only taking items and not filling the input with materials.

at least this does not happen with smelter.

[Rekal]

This works fine with smelters for me a moment ago. Whether you are filling or taking depends on where you click. Ctrl - Left click on the item in the smelter to take it out, ctrl - left click in the inventory below to push anything in your inventory that will fit into the input of the smelter.

[Ragnaman]

Clearly I am not imagining things right ?
The UI clearly says what it says here.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2922895840

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2922896056

[Ragnaman]

In case its still not clear,
IF the UI would say "Fast take items", it would be ok.
BUT the UI says "Fast take/fill items", and this behaviour is not happening as its described on the UI.

[josmith7]

Yeah, that could use a better translation. [CTRL + LMB], when you don't have the smelter selected, is just fast take items.
(I'm guessing it means take from the smelter and fill your inventory; but it's not perfectly clear)


If you want to fast load the smelter you need to first click on it, which selects it and pops up its info panel (with your inventory shown).
On that screen it says "Fill Materials [TAB] Take Product [~]"
* Pressing [TAB] will fill any input buffers with material from your inventory (iron ore in this case).
* Pressing [SHIFT + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from that stack of material to the building's input buffer.
* Pressing [CTRL + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from all stacks of that material to the building's input buffer.

[Dracuras]

Originally posted by josmith7:

Yeah, that could use a better translation. [CTRL + LMB], when you don't have the smelter selected, is just fast take items.
(I'm guessing it means take from the smelter and fill your inventory; but it's not perfectly clear)


If you want to fast load the smelter you need to first click on it, which selects it and pops up its info panel (with your inventory shown).
On that screen it says "Fill Materials [TAB] Take Product [~]"
* Pressing [TAB] will fill any input buffers with material from your inventory (iron ore in this case).
* Pressing [SHIFT + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from that stack of material to the building's input buffer.
* Pressing [CTRL + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from all stacks of that material to the building's input buffer.

yea nah. the fast take/fill prompt when you hover over the building is for interacting WITHOUT opening the building's UI but there's a catch it doesn't tell you. when you just hold CTRL and left click it, it'll pull anything in its output to your inventory, but to fast fill you need a material held hovering in your cursor to input. Ctrl + left click with that and it'll load the material held by your cursor into the machine.

[josmith7]

Originally posted by Dracuras:

the fast take/fill prompt when you hover over the building is for interacting WITHOUT opening the building's UI but there's a catch it doesn't tell you. when you just hold CTRL and left click it, it'll pull anything in its output to your inventory, but to fast fill you need a material held hovering in your cursor to input. Ctrl + left click with that and it'll load the material held by your cursor into the machine.

Thanks, that's good to know.

I never thought of holding the input in my cursor before trying [CTRL + LBM].

(I think I'd find it quicker to just click on the building and use [TAB] to load all the inputs from inventory; but it's still useful info)

[Ragnaman]

Originally posted by Dracuras:

Originally posted by josmith7:

Yeah, that could use a better translation. [CTRL + LMB], when you don't have the smelter selected, is just fast take items.
(I'm guessing it means take from the smelter and fill your inventory; but it's not perfectly clear)


If you want to fast load the smelter you need to first click on it, which selects it and pops up its info panel (with your inventory shown).
On that screen it says "Fill Materials [TAB] Take Product [~]"
* Pressing [TAB] will fill any input buffers with material from your inventory (iron ore in this case).
* Pressing [SHIFT + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from that stack of material to the building's input buffer.
* Pressing [CTRL + LMB] on a material it needs will transfer from all stacks of that material to the building's input buffer.

yea nah. the fast take/fill prompt when you hover over the building is for interacting WITHOUT opening the building's UI but there's a catch it doesn't tell you. when you just hold CTRL and left click it, it'll pull anything in its output to your inventory, but to fast fill you need a material held hovering in your cursor to input. Ctrl + left click with that and it'll load the material held by your cursor into the machine.

Thx for info, but this still is just silly, the intent of ever ctrl+LMB'ing a building is to do everything necessary to make that building functional as far as I/O go + collecting results.
They really failed on UX on this one.