Can proliferation be used on science cubes?

[RelaxItsJustAGame]

Or only the ingredients of science cubes?

[mrrvlad]

can be used on science cubes as well

[Coops]

blue proliferator provides +25% hash on research or manufacturing white cubes

[josmith7]

Yes - very effectively. They're probably one of the very first things you should proliferate.

Proliferating the science cube that is being consumed for research gives you more hashes per cube; so completing a given research you'll need to consume fewer cubes than the technology tree lists and your research goes faster that with non-proliferated cubes. win-win


And once you're on to white cube science you'll want to proliferate the antimatter and colored cubes used to manufacture the white cubes; and then proliferate the white cubes that will be consumed for research.

[RelaxItsJustAGame]

Thanks @josmith7 - question: for a technology, say, that requires red and blue and yellow, do I have to proliferate ALL the cubes, like you have to for ingredients for other things?

[Dragonmaster]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Thanks @josmith7 - question: for a technology, say, that requires red and blue and yellow, do I have to proliferate ALL the cubes, like you have to for ingredients for other things?

Yes, only times proliferation applies is if ALL ingredients are proliferated so all cubes will need to be.

[Shurenai]

Originally posted by Aaron:

Thanks @josmith7 - question: for a technology, say, that requires red and blue and yellow, do I have to proliferate ALL the cubes, like you have to for ingredients for other things?

ALL ingredients involved in a recipe must be proliferated, or the proliferation won't work.

[RelaxItsJustAGame]

Thanks everyone! Thanks @Dragonmaster and @Shurenai !

[margalus]

Originally posted by josmith7:

Yes - very effectively. They're probably one of the very first things you should proliferate.

Proliferating the science cube that is being consumed for research gives you more hashes per cube; so completing a given research you'll need to consume fewer cubes than the technology tree lists and your research goes faster that with non-proliferated cubes. win-win


And once you're on to white cube science you'll want to proliferate the antimatter and colored cubes used to manufacture the white cubes; and then proliferate the white cubes that will be consumed for research.

I thought they only increased the hash rate, not the quantity of cubes required. So research goes faster, but still uses the same number of cubes. I could be wrong, gonna have to look again.

[josmith7]

Originally posted by margalus:

Originally posted by josmith7:

Yes - very effectively. They're probably one of the very first things you should proliferate.

Proliferating the science cube that is being consumed for research gives you more hashes per cube; so completing a given research you'll need to consume fewer cubes than the technology tree lists and your research goes faster that with non-proliferated cubes. win-win

I thought they only increased the hash rate, not the quantity of cubes required. So research goes faster, but still uses the same number of cubes. I could be wrong, gonna have to look again.

I did a little test - and the cube usage; with proliferator mk.3 was cut by 20% (allowing for some rounding errors)

Methodology:
1. Identified a research that called for 500,000 white cubes.
2. Built a storage array of enough large storage to hold exactly 500,000 cubes (41 3/4 large boxes); then filled it with said cubes.
3.Turned off all white cube usage and allowed all research matrix labs and their feed belts and sorters to run to empty.
4. Canceled the existing research queue and queued up just the 500,000 cube research.
5. Hooked up the storage array, through a spray coater using proliferator Mk.3 to the research matrix labs.
6. Allowed that 1 research to run to completion
7. Removed all the sorters that had been emptying out the storage, emptied all the belts, sorters, and research matrix labs.
8. Put those white cubes back into the storage matrix.
9. Looked at how many cubes were left.

There were 8 boxes entirely full (12,000 * 8 = 96,000 cubes) plus 1 full row (2000 cubes) plus 1 row of 9 full stacks and 1 partial 107 cube stack; for a total of 99,907 cubes remaining.
That means that the 500,000 cube research actually consumed only 400,093 cubes. 400,093/500,000 = 80.02% (Or a 19.98% savings)

[Kyrros]

Originally posted by margalus:

I thought they only increased the hash rate, not the quantity of cubes required. So research goes faster, but still uses the same number of cubes. I could be wrong, gonna have to look again.

The devs have done a pretty job in-game and with tooltips to describe exactly which items can benefit from Proliferator and not and also how. Bonues shown in blue are 'production' bonues, bonues in Orange are 'speed' bonues. Labs will show a blue bonus when properly utilizing Proliferators - which indicates a production bonus and not a speed one.

[Xilo The Odd]

pretty much anything that is consumed by a recipie or process can be sprayed for various benefits. some things are simply not worth spraying while others, you want to be spraying them or hold off on using them at all.