Call me confused but isn't the point of a dyson sphere to built on the inside?

[Bishop]

From the videos and screenshots it looks like you build on the external side of the sphere.

[Boefjim]

As far as I know the designs so far have all been a sphere on the outside, that can capture all of the radiation. I have not heard of any Dyson Spheres that would function on the inside of the star...I don't think that's even possible because it's kinda hot in there

[TickTockBent]

Usually the inner surface is there to capture the star's energy, not to live on. In the game the society lives in virtual/digital spaces anyway so they do not need living space, just energy.

[Videogame Jukebox]

That is the general prediction. https://earthsky.org/space/what-is-a-dyson-sphere

[5Andysalive]

On a Ringworld, which is the alpha version of a Dyson Sphere you live on the inside (sun facing).

[Mjr.Death]

Originally posted by 5Andysalive:

On a Ringworld, which is the alpha version of a Dyson Sphere you live on the inside (sun facing).

I'm preeeeeety sure a Dyson Sphere and Ringworld have nothing in common besides being built around a star. One certainly is not the alpha version of the other.

[TickTockBent]

Dyson never envisioned his megastructure as a solid shell in any case, it was supposed to be a swarm of smaller satellites which together capture all energy from a star. A hollow sphere around a star would be unstable, there's a reason it's science fiction.

[Kulin]

Originally posted by Mjr.Death:

Originally posted by 5Andysalive:

On a Ringworld, which is the alpha version of a Dyson Sphere you live on the inside (sun facing).

I'm preeeeeety sure a Dyson Sphere and Ringworld have nothing in common besides being built around a star. One certainly is not the alpha version of the other.

There are some Dyson Spheres in SciFi and while some of them are only for electric power generation, many of them also are about providing a LOT of surface area to live on. In Star Trek TNG for example(the episode with Scotty). I honestly see not much difference between a sphere and a ring in this scenario. One just has a lot more surface area.

[Videogame Jukebox]

They are "supposedly" finding some lol. Every once in a while you see an announcement that they located one. https://www.sciencealert.com/researchers-just-found-a-second-dyson-sphere-star

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/giant-alien-megastructure-found-space-what-dyson-sphere-and-what-else-could-we-have-found-a6695556.html

[dimm_ddr]

Originally posted by Kulin:

Originally posted by Mjr.Death:

I'm preeeeeety sure a Dyson Sphere and Ringworld have nothing in common besides being built around a star. One certainly is not the alpha version of the other.

There are some Dyson Spheres in SciFi and while some of them are only for electric power generation, many of them also are about providing a LOT of surface area to live on. In Star Trek TNG for example(the episode with Scotty). I honestly see not much difference between a sphere and a ring in this scenario. One just has a lot more surface area.

One main difference is distance from the star. Second important difference + infrastructure. To be able to live somewhere you will need to provide gravity, atmosphere, temperature control, living quarters and tons of other things. Comparing ringworld with Dyson sphere and saying "Hey, there is some surface here, we can live on it" is about same thing as saying that nuclear plant has roof and walls so people should live inside it.

[Mouse]

Originally posted by Kulin:

Originally posted by Mjr.Death:

I'm preeeeeety sure a Dyson Sphere and Ringworld have nothing in common besides being built around a star. One certainly is not the alpha version of the other.

There are some Dyson Spheres in SciFi and while some of them are only for electric power generation, many of them also are about providing a LOT of surface area to live on. In Star Trek TNG for example(the episode with Scotty). I honestly see not much difference between a sphere and a ring in this scenario. One just has a lot more surface area.

Ringworld is supposed to have a radius of 1 AU, thus making it habitable to live on the sun facing side. Dyson spheres are more akin to the orbit of mercury. Essentially Ringworld is the bigger, grander, and more science impossible version of the Dyson sphere. (The claim being that the ring is spinning fast enough to simulate normal earth "gravity" while not falling completely apart). From what I remember of that book, they even had a second "ring" setup to block out the sun at 12 hour intervals, simulating day and night.

[Veny]

Imagine Dyson Sphere as a huge amount of fotovoltaic satellites glued together around a star to drain all energy it radiates.

[LuckyN13]

The final evolution of the Dyson Sphere is to totally encompass the sun to collect 100% of its energy.
The requirements would require the cannibalisation of the entire solar system to use as building materials.

Of course you can get a hell of alot of energy just being a partial sphere. More than we would ever need; but an hyper-advanced intergalactic civilisation that requires near infinite energy might utilise an entire network of dyson spheres and then some.
To us this is an impossible scale, but to something so advanced, so large, so intelligent, immortal... it might just be as simple as producing a battery.

Then again, a civilisation that advanced may have figured out how to simply break down literally anything into energy. Breaking down entire planets into atoms, into protons/electrons, into quarks, and burning that for energy.

[Drake]

Originally posted by Bishop:

From the videos and screenshots it looks like you build on the external side of the sphere.

It’s the Chinese “Dyson” sphere.

After all, Dr. Freeman Dyson was an evil white man, thus his hypothesis of a Dyson sphere was an evil one, hiding all the structures in the inside.

[Drake]

Originally posted by LuckyN13:

The final evolution of the Dyson Sphere is to totally encompass the sun to collect 100% of its energy.
The requirements would require the cannibalisation of the entire solar system to use as building materials.

Of course you can get a hell of alot of energy just being a partial sphere. More than we would ever need; but an hyper-advanced intergalactic civilisation that requires near infinite energy might utilise an entire network of dyson spheres and then some.
To us this is an impossible scale, but to something so advanced, so large, so intelligent, immortal... it might just be as simple as producing a battery.

Then again, a civilisation that advanced may have figured out how to simply break down literally anything into energy. Breaking down entire planets into atoms, into protons/electrons, into quarks, and burning that for energy.

A “partial sphere” is unstable. One of the many reasons Dr. Freeman Dyson hypothesised a sphere is due to its stability. Another structure that would have a stable orbit would be a “ring”, a circle structure rotating around the circumference of a star.

[TickTockBent]

Originally posted by Drake:

One of the many reasons Dr. Freeman Dyson hypothesised a sphere is due to its stability.

Really curious where you got that info as a rigid sphere would not be stable around a gravity source at all. In fact Dr. Dyson's original concept was not a sphere of material but a swarm of smaller units which collectively gather all light from the star but are not physically connected. Each orbited on its own path in a very complex way.