Black Hole energy gathering?

[CREEPER2159]

Will this type of structure be added in the future? Since, the game has black holes, so it would be interesting and awesome (in my opinion), if you could be able to build black hole energy gathering structures.

I'd really want to know, if there is a chance, for this to get added into the game in the future?

Thanks in advance!

[RedPine]

I forgot to mention a sixth method of using black holes. We traditionally think of black holes as being super massive, super long lived, and emitting very little hawking radiation. With small black holes, it's the opposite. "Relatively" low mass, short lived, and emit lots of radiation (but not in a usable spectrum with modern technology, you'd need metamaterials).

The best part? You can add mass to increase the lifespan of the black hole and reduce it's power output, or stop feeding it to decrease it's lifespan and increase it's output. Isaac Arthur discussed using them as starship generators / starship engines. That's also how I was introduced to Nicoll Dyson beams and Shkadov Thrusters.

[Pak0tac]

RedPine の投稿を引用：

I forgot to mention a sixth method of using black holes. We traditionally think of black holes as being super massive, super long lived, and emitting very little hawking radiation. With small black holes, it's the opposite. "Relatively" low mass, short lived, and emit lots of radiation (but not in a usable spectrum with modern technology, you'd need metamaterials).

The best part? You can add mass to increase the lifespan of the black hole and reduce it's power output, or stop feeding it to decrease it's lifespan and increase it's output. Isaac Arthur discussed using them as starship generators / starship engines. That's also how I was introduced to Nicoll Dyson beams and Shkadov Thrusters.

Its Pseudoscience, you cant really do it, its like making engines that are working on harvested after-life energy :p

[la_nague]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

You cant pull energy out of a black hole, its physically imposible, just like you cant travel in time

When something with mass gets sucked in by a blackhole, it gets accelerated and the magnetic field of the blackhole ultimately creates giant jets of energetic particles from it.
This is probably what they mean.

You could make it so you have to feed the blackhole and in return you get energy based on the mass you feed it.





Also just fyi, blackholes themselves also lose energy, you should google Hawking Radiation, its too complicated to explain in a video game forum post.

[Pak0tac]

la_nague の投稿を引用：

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

You cant pull energy out of a black hole, its physically imposible, just like you cant travel in time

When something with mass gets sucked in by a blackhole, it gets accelerated and the magnetic field of the blackhole ultimately creates giant jets of energetic particles from it.
This is probably what they mean.

You could make it so you have to feed the blackhole and in return you get energy based on the mass you feed it.





Also just fyi, blackholes themselves also lose energy, you should google Hawking Radiation, its too complicated to explain in a video game forum post.

the amount of matter harvested and then used to feed a black hole, and then somehow pull energy out of it will always be more or equal to the energy pulled from that black hole.

you cant create energy, or destroy it, you can only change one form of energy into the other

which means that the only reason to "mine" a black hole is for its hawkings radiation, that you then somehow have to convert to usable energy, and that can sustain itself in the proccess and to offer a surpluse

[marach]

Repeat after me, "there are multiple types of black hole, and a rotating blackhole can be harvested of angular momentum."

[Pak0tac]

marach の投稿を引用：

Repeat after me, "there are multiple types of black hole, and a rotating blackhole can be harvested of angular momentum."

black holes are not 2D rings
they are 3D cones

cheez i give up, go harness a black hole, good luck

[Oku]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

la_nague の投稿を引用：

When something with mass gets sucked in by a blackhole, it gets accelerated and the magnetic field of the blackhole ultimately creates giant jets of energetic particles from it.
This is probably what they mean.

You could make it so you have to feed the blackhole and in return you get energy based on the mass you feed it.





Also just fyi, blackholes themselves also lose energy, you should google Hawking Radiation, its too complicated to explain in a video game forum post.

the amount of matter harvested and then used to feed a black hole, and then somehow pull energy out of it will always be more or equal to the energy pulled from that black hole.

you cant create energy, or destroy it, you can only change one form of energy into the other

which means that the only reason to "mine" a black hole is for its hawkings radiation, that you then somehow have to convert to usable energy, and that can sustain itself in the proccess and to offer a surpluse

You literally do not know a damn thing you are talking about.

Log off.

[Unregistered HyperCam 2]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

marach の投稿を引用：

Repeat after me, "there are multiple types of black hole, and a rotating blackhole can be harvested of angular momentum."

black holes are not 2D rings
they are 3D cones

cheez i give up, go harness a black hole, good luck

Lol, you won't stop making a fool of yourself won't you.
Well at least you're entertaining to everyone here haha.

[marach]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

marach の投稿を引用：

Repeat after me, "there are multiple types of black hole, and a rotating blackhole can be harvested of angular momentum."

black holes are not 2D rings
they are 3D cones

cheez i give up, go harness a black hole, good luck

uhh no they are point sources with spherical(ish depending on type) event horizons.. the cones shown in images are just illustrations...

[Pak0tac]

marach の投稿を引用：

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

black holes are not 2D rings
they are 3D cones

cheez i give up, go harness a black hole, good luck

uhh no they are point sources with spherical(ish depending on type) event horizons.. the cones shown in images are just illustrations...

i got a phd in physics, i know a thing or 2 on what gravity is

[marach]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

marach の投稿を引用：

uhh no they are point sources with spherical(ish depending on type) event horizons.. the cones shown in images are just illustrations...

i got a phd in physics, i know a thing or 2 on what gravity is

I'm calling ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on this since you obviously don't know anything about gravity.

[Vyndicu]

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

marach の投稿を引用：

uhh no they are point sources with spherical(ish depending on type) event horizons.. the cones shown in images are just illustrations...

i got a phd in physics, i know a thing or 2 on what gravity is

I have been following this thread and I posted a while ago a simple down to earth metaphor to explain how to harvest energy from black hole.

I have this concept of what black hole are like based on real science that is shared by many posters in here and also the physic community at large.

Most post by you so far in this thread reject everything based on those quoted real science. You will have to figure out for yourself if you want to continue push those theories of your own that only you seem to know about.

[krs]

how did this simple question turn into a massive argument about science

[Unregistered HyperCam 2]

Vyndicu の投稿を引用：

-=Audacious=- の投稿を引用：

i got a phd in physics, i know a thing or 2 on what gravity is

I have been following this thread and I posted a while ago a simple down to earth metaphor to explain how to harvest energy from black hole.

I have this concept of what black hole are like based on real science that is shared by many posters in here and also the physic community at large.

Most post by you so far in this thread reject everything based on those quoted real science. You will have to figure out for yourself if you want to continue push those theories of your own that only you seem to know about.

The more i read his answers, the harder for me it is to think he isn't trolling.
If he isn't... heh...

[Metko]

Wow i just came to the Forum to look up why my game was updating ( patch notes ?) and found this gem of a thread, this guy triggered so many people (Audacious).

I would advice this thread to be closed, its going nowhere.