Modern controls ruined the game

[Mogwai]

I can't learn when im getting smashed by fake diamond ranks who play modern yes im a noob but im trying to learn how to really play .

[Asuterisuku]

There's no such thing as a fake diamond. Easier access to the tools doesn't make someone automatically good at using them.

[Vault Traveler]

You are aware that diamond rank should have this kind of execution with classic anyway? If you cant handle frame perfect spammers or reversals and your gameplan depends on missing frames... you probably simply not that good...

[Zapato]

Ranked exists and the point of it is to play with people of similar skill.

[Arschhaarraucher]

modern controls are fault that u are ♥♥♥♥ in neutral game?
hahahahahahhaa

[Ahriman]

modern controls took half my stuff AND my kids

[Mogwai]

so your telling me diamond never drop inputs ever?? At least they could match me with ppl using classic

[Aegix Drakan]

Everyone else in this thread is on point.

By diamond rank, everyone else will have that level of execution on classic mode anyway.

And thus, if you're getting blown up by modern users there, your neutral game and fundamentals must be lacking.

I have nothing more to add, except:

Originally posted by Ahriman:

modern controls took half my stuff AND my kids

Meme Ken: ALL MY APES GONE, RYU! :o

[Mogwai]

i'm not even in ranked i was just in casuas trying to learn and i keep getting farmed by Bullies im only silver rank :/

[Aegix Drakan]

Originally posted by Mogwai:

i'm not even in ranked i was just in casuas trying to learn and i keep getting farmed by Bullies im only silver rank :/

Jump straight to Ranked. It'll consistently put you with people of comparable skill.

Also, your rank can jump up stupid fast if you're better than that rank level, so you won't be "stuck" in a low rank if you skills improve.

Seriously, I've only been playing Ranked very occasionally and I've shot up to Bronze very quickly because of two winstreaks.

[Mogwai]

But i don't want to play ranked to train whats the point i wanna get good first i only qualified so people around my rank could see and we could have good match-ups in hub and casual :/
now it feels like i got a target on my back for higher lvls to farm me ...

[Morebliss]

"yes im a noob but im trying to learn how to really play."

Then you have to stop looking for excuses when you lose. Fighting game players have a difficult pill to swallow and that's that when you lose, it's almost entirely your own fault. There's no teammate in mid to blame for not ganking, it's you and you alone.

It's easy when you're new to fighting games just to start blaming your losses on "spammy moves" or in this case modern controls but it just simply isn't the reason you're losing and you need to accept that in order to progress and get better.

Every player has a style of playing, do they shoryuken every time you knock them down? Then walk close to them, knowing they're going to do it and then block as they get up. Boom, they're left wide open for a punish. Does a player jump too much? Just start sitting back, anti-airing and let them defeat themselves.

And just as a final tip, winning isn't the be all and end all of fighting games. It feels good to win but if you use every loss as a lesson then you'll find yourself better equipped to win later on :)

Good luck!

[C1REX]

Originally posted by Mogwai:

I can't learn when im getting smashed by fake diamond ranks who play modern yes im a noob but im trying to learn how to really play .

There are close to zero modern control diamonds. Sure, you can find a rare exception maybe once a week but not more. If you find one in casuals they probably do it for lols or to lab it.

[Aegix Drakan]

Originally posted by Mogwai:

But i don't want to play ranked to train whats the point i wanna get good first

See, I had that mindset before...

But on release, I decided "why not jump into ranked, I don't REALLY care about my rank"... And I've found that the ranked experience has mostly been really REALLY good for learning how to get good.

It places you consistently with people who are your skill level, it shows you your progress via league points, etc etc. AND even if you're not good NOW, it won't stop you from leaving that rank later.

AND it doesn't let Diamond level players jump you in the hub and destroy you.

All in all, it's the best option for learning the game against other players, outside of the Newbie-only Battle Hub Servers.

(Besides, I don't like the hub much at all. If I wanna play online, I wanna just get in, fight a whole lot of people, and then peace out. The entire cabinet experience just makes that process longer).

[SJFox]

Originally posted by Mogwai:

But i don't want to play ranked to train whats the point i wanna get good first i only qualified so people around my rank could see and we could have good match-ups in hub and casual :/
now it feels like i got a target on my back for higher lvls to farm me ...

Ranked = similar skill
Casual = open season

Ranked is the best method to get better because you'll be paired with people on your level

[Teddy Roosevelt]

Originally posted by Aegix Drakan:

Originally posted by Mogwai:

But i don't want to play ranked to train whats the point i wanna get good first

See, I had that mindset before...

But on release, I decided "why not jump into ranked, I don't REALLY care about my rank"... And I've found that the ranked experience has mostly been really REALLY good for learning how to get good.

It places you consistently with people who are your skill level, it shows you your progress via league points, etc etc. AND even if you're not good NOW, it won't stop you from leaving that rank later.

AND it doesn't let Diamond level players jump you in the hub and destroy you.

All in all, it's the best option for learning the game against other players, outside of the Newbie-only Battle Hub Servers.

(Besides, I don't like the hub much at all. If I wanna play online, I wanna just get in, fight a whole lot of people, and then peace out. The entire cabinet experience just makes that process longer).

The ONLY downside to playing ranked is it deletes the casual side of the game for you. Your always gonna be matched with people that are just as good as you if not better and intent on winning. So no more getting on late and drunk and mashing some buttons cause its all losses from people that are actually paying attention.

Also im not a huge fan of no downranking in gold and below which i feel is kinda broken.

Other than that i LOVE ranked because of all the reasons you mentioned. Its a great place to learn and not get bullied and makes the games feel fun when even.