As a new player, Modern makes me not wanna continue learning Classic.

[AKM_Goatku]

So I picked this up wanting to learn street fighter after not playing since i was a kid 15 years ago. I've started on classic because modern felt like playing a different game and was not to excited about it. I've got about 30hs in the game and have just got to bronze in ranked with Cammy and am still trying to learn to reliably hit combos and special moves and when to use them, playing against someone else better than me playing classic is teaching me things. Playing against a modern player on ranked just seems like you're playing a computer that is just spamming specials and drive impacts. I think they have made it easier to play street fighter for people starting on modern but made it way harder to play for new players who are choosing classic?

[[Buc]Dan]

Modern mode is basically "easy mode" of the past games. At first, I thought it was going to be an adaptation to be closer to other fighting games like Tekken, Dead or Alive, and King of Fighters. But, the moment I checked the move list, it's just a renamed easy mode.

The one button super moves was a terrible mistake. The renaming of the control difficulty to appeal is a lie.

For SF, it's classic or nothing.

[Crimson]

Originally posted by BucDan:

Modern mode is basically "easy mode" of the past games. At first, I thought it was going to be an adaptation to be closer to other fighting games like Tekken, Dead or Alive, and King of Fighters. But, the moment I checked the move list, it's just a renamed easy mode.

The one button super moves was a terrible mistake. The renaming of the control difficulty to appeal is a lie.

For SF, it's classic or nothing.

Yes, sure, make the barrier of entry as high as before so no one plays fighting games and the genre dies out.

[Lanceps]

I mean modern mode does make it a little easier for people who would normally be filtered by the average fighting game controls. It does expand the playerbase in that regard, and while it is objectively a harmful crutch, that's not a bad thing when it comes to just enjoying a game (even if briefly).
I don't see why its harder for players to learn playing classic than before. I mean sure you get instant buttons for moves that require some practice or alot of practice to use in certain ways, bypassing the whole muscle memory process. But it also makes the game offer more to the types of players that would be typically filtered by normal fighting game controls, and lets them enjoy the game a bit more probably (players with disabilities also included in that category).
Yes, i know brolylegs exists and hes a legend but not all disabled gamers are like him.

[Jalir]

If you can't beat someone spamming specials and DIs, your problem isn't related to inputs.

[AKM_Goatku]

Originally posted by Jalir:

If you can't beat someone spamming specials and DIs, your problem isn't related to inputs.

I love this comment. Did you read my actual post?

[AKM_Goatku]

Originally posted by Paranoid Android:

Originally posted by BucDan:

Modern mode is basically "easy mode" of the past games. At first, I thought it was going to be an adaptation to be closer to other fighting games like Tekken, Dead or Alive, and King of Fighters. But, the moment I checked the move list, it's just a renamed easy mode.

The one button super moves was a terrible mistake. The renaming of the control difficulty to appeal is a lie.

For SF, it's classic or nothing.

Yes, sure, make the barrier of entry as high as before so no one plays fighting games and the genre dies out.

The barrier of entry isn't high if in ranked everyone is using the same controls and are ranked correctly tho. so you point is moot.

[Jalir]

Originally posted by xGoatsGoneWildx:

Originally posted by Jalir:

If you can't beat someone spamming specials and DIs, your problem isn't related to inputs.

I love this comment. Did you read my actual post?

Yeah, I did, and I wasn't trying to be an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. If you're genuinely fighting a "computer that spams specials and drive impacts" then you should be getting free wins, seriously. Your input method doesn't have anything to do with you having trouble with these kinds of players. You're just new, and don't understand how to counter these things. You can barely tread water, and insist on jumping into the deep end of the pool, then get mad at the dude doing laps around you with floaties on. Put the floaties on, learn the in-game systems, understand the moves and their counters, and then you can spend a day or two learning the Classic inputs, and you'll have no issues.

[Kiyaya]

If you wanna get balls deep into fighting games, you've gotta understand that these games are not about choosing the path of least resistance.
In the short term, Modern players may seem to have the upper hand, but you're certain to surpass them if you tough it out with classic controls. Just gotta keep at it.

[Crimson]

Originally posted by xGoatsGoneWildx:

Originally posted by Paranoid Android:

Yes, sure, make the barrier of entry as high as before so no one plays fighting games and the genre dies out.

The barrier of entry isn't high if in ranked everyone is using the same controls and are ranked correctly tho. so you point is moot.

Yes, that's why a lot of people used to play fighting games.

M8, I've literally played other FG's and everytime your new you will face someone who knows everything even in the lowest ranks.

[Shoah Kahn]

Well, the easy inputs were included for those who could not be bothered, or were simply too maladroit to learn traditional fighting game input controls. There is no shame in admitting the truth.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WVUI6K7tdsk

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by Paranoid Android:

Originally posted by BucDan:

Modern mode is basically "easy mode" of the past games. At first, I thought it was going to be an adaptation to be closer to other fighting games like Tekken, Dead or Alive, and King of Fighters. But, the moment I checked the move list, it's just a renamed easy mode.

The one button super moves was a terrible mistake. The renaming of the control difficulty to appeal is a lie.

For SF, it's classic or nothing.

Yes, sure, make the barrier of entry as high as before so no one plays fighting games and the genre dies out.

it's never been as popular as now even before SF6.

[Toppercow]

I still don't understand why someone even if new would chose to play modern. It feels like playing a cheap slasher game with auto mode on, it's not fun in the slightest. The whole street fighter experience imo is pulling off what you practiced in a real 1v1. Eventually, if you stick with classic controls, modern ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ will be a piece of cake. You have to know that modern controls do 80% of the damage as a penalty of not having to learn combos and they also don't have access to some important moves. The only real disadvantage of classic is that in order to get good you have to play only one or just few characters.

[C1REX]

Now I think that Capcom should hide what input others are using.

[Gleap]

There's advantages and disadvantages to both control schemes. For a lot of people modern is easier and if that's your deal just go ahead and use modern. It's not like it really makes much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Even though my inputs are trash due to arthritis and general badness I'm yet to drop a full set to a modern player in ranked.

Inputs are just inputs use whatever the player with better decision making will win nearly always.

[vSandro]

Originally posted by Gleap:

There's advantages and disadvantages to both control schemes. For a lot of people modern is easier and if that's your deal just go ahead and use modern. It's not like it really makes much of a difference in the grand scheme of things.

Even though my inputs are trash due to arthritis and general badness I'm yet to drop a full set to a modern player in ranked.

Inputs are just inputs use whatever the player with better decision making will win nearly always.

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