Where would you rank sf6 among other 2d fighting games?

[Patrick Wayne]

If we take 2d fighters that came out in the last 10 years.

I would put FighterZ, Kof15, Granblue Versus, Mkx and GG xrd above it from the games that I tried.

Feel free to rank it among all 2d fighters in history too.

[OhHellYeah]

Zzzzzzz

[SeeNoWeevil]

Oh my god, dude. Stop. Find a hobby.

[Sixtyfivekills]

Capcom Fighting Collection came out last year so it absolutely counts, and it has Puzzle Fighter 2 which tops all your favorite games.

[Tobithecomic]

It's the best one.
I mean seriously no other fighting game that came out the lasst 10 years had:
This much polish
This much content
This much thought put into the gameplay system
This much accessibillity for newcomers, without compromising
(looking at your Granblue Versus Rising)
A straight up Dark magic level Netcode
So much cake
Memphis
Luke and Ryu from Streets™
And the abillity to create your very own cosmic abomination.
There is just no other fighting game on this level currently.
Subjectively sure people might like different ones
But I like this one for the above stated reasons

[Patrick Wayne]

Originally posted by Tobithecomic:

It's the best one.
I mean seriously no other fighting game that came out the lasst 10 years had:
This much polish
This much content
This much thought put into the gameplay system
This much accessibillity for newcomers, without compromising
(looking at your Granblue Versus Rising)
A straight up Dark magic level Netcode
So much cake
Memphis
Luke and Ryu from Streets™
And the abillity to create your very own cosmic abomination.
There is just no other fighting game on this level currently.
Subjectively sure people might like different ones
But I like this one for the above stated reasons

Lmao.
What polish? Even the graphics are subpar.
Worst matchmaking out there.
It has region block matchmaking + random errors up to this day.

What content? Cheap basic wt mode where most of what you do is fight braindead copy pasted mobs with cardboard boxes on their heads?

Outside of WT there's barely any content. Worst arcade out there. They just added few slideshows and called it a day.

And no one is touching extreme battle.

The content is so lazy that it doesn't even have unique character interactions like any other new fighting game has.
All characters say the same cringe line to everyone.
They feel like robots.

What thought was put into the combat system? All they did is adding few new mechanics and replacing few old ones. This is the bare minimum any fighting game franchise does.
There's nothing unique or special about any sf6 mechanic.

No compromising? That's why we have tons of complaints about modern?

What "cake"? Even cammy has mediocre ass and she's the fanservice ass character.

Not to mention that her ugly face and flat chest (she had big chest before) make her unappealing.

Most characters are ugly with uncanny valley faces.

[Samvega]

Originally posted by AlmightyDemon:

Lmao.
What polish? Even the graphics are subpar.
Worst matchmaking out there.
It has region block matchmaking + random errors up to this day.

What content? Cheap basic wt mode where most of what you do is fight braindead copy pasted mobs with cardboard boxes on their heads?

Outside of WT there's barely any content. Worst arcade out there. They just added few slideshows and called it a day.

And no one is touching extreme battle.

The content is so lazy that it doesn't even have unique character interactions like any other new fighting game.
All characters say the same cringe line to everyone.
They feel like robots.

What thought was put in combat system? All they did is adding few new mechanics and replacing few old ones. This is the bare minimum any fighting game does.
There's nothing unique or special about any sf6 mechanic.

No compromising? That's why we have tons of complaints about modern?

What "cake"? Even cammy has mediocre ass and she's the fanservice ass character.

Not to mention that her ugly face and flat chest (she had big chest before) make her unappealing.

Most characters are ugly with uncanney valley faces.

I'm sorry Cammy isn't attractive enough for you. Maybe an NSFW artist could do a commission for you using the face and proportions you like? It's probably easier than meeting real people who you find attractive.

You like a lot of games more than SF6. Play them. This forum doesn't require your essays about how disappointed you are in the game.

[Tobithecomic]

Originally posted by AlmightyDemon:

Originally posted by Tobithecomic:

It's the best one.
I mean seriously no other fighting game that came out the lasst 10 years had:
This much polish
This much content
This much thought put into the gameplay system
This much accessibillity for newcomers, without compromising
(looking at your Granblue Versus Rising)
A straight up Dark magic level Netcode
So much cake
Memphis
Luke and Ryu from Streets™
And the abillity to create your very own cosmic abomination.
There is just no other fighting game on this level currently.
Subjectively sure people might like different ones
But I like this one for the above stated reasons

Lmao.
What polish? Even the graphics are subpar.
Worst matchmaking out there.
It has region block matchmaking + random errors up to this day.

What content? Cheap basic wt mode where most of what you do is fight braindead copy pasted mobs with cardboard boxes on their heads?

Outside of WT there's barely any content. Worst arcade out there. They just added few slideshows and called it a day.

And no one is touching extreme battle.

The content is so lazy that it doesn't even have unique character interactions like any other new fighting game has.
All characters say the same cringe line to everyone.
They feel like robots.

What thought was put into the combat system? All they did is adding few new mechanics and replacing few old ones. This is the bare minimum any fighting game franchise does.
There's nothing unique or special about any sf6 mechanic.

No compromising? That's why we have tons of complaints about modern?

What "cake"? Even cammy has mediocre ass and she's the fanservice ass character.

Not to mention that her ugly face and flat chest (she had big chest before) make her unappealing.

Most characters are ugly with uncanny valley faces.

Graphics are great I really dont know what your problem appears to be.
Are you perhaps unable to play with higher fidelity graphics? I recommend installing the newest drivers for yoru graphics card and turning on the Shader Warumup in the options, it helps a ton on older machines.

Matchmaking is working fine here where I live tho it does appear that a lot fo people have problems similiar to what you describe, so the devs have to look at that.
But I think you misunderstood me here, I wasnt talking about the matchmaking, I was talking about the netcode, y'know the gameplay aspect of it. Basically almost Lag Free play even with players on another side of the world.

Content isn't just the World Tour mode, there are also extreme battles, which people do touch believe it or not, well made character guides, a ton of artwork, old arcade games you can play for free and of course the World Tour mode.

Now I dont know who stepped on your tail to be so hateful towards it just, because it doesn't really appeal to you specifically, but I know a bunch of people who really enjoyed the adddition of it and had lots of fun with it, not to mention that it seems that the dlc characters get added to World Tour for free, so you can experiment with their moves without having to buy them.

Every character has a unique victory quote against every other character, I dont know where you get the idea from that unique interactions are a must but if you do think so, in the arcade mode during the final battle there are unique character interactions between the 2 fighters. Also I dont really get why you call it the worst arcade mode, there are definitely more bare bones arcade modes out there.

The combat system goes beyond just the drive system, it's a combination of how the frame data is different from how it usually was and how that interacts with the drive system.

The complains about modern controls are literally wrong and debunkable by just playing modern yourself. Just because it has auto combos doesn't mean those auto combos are any good.
Also you deal less damage, which equals to you having to win around 2-3 more interactions to get the KO compared to the classic version fo the character.

Also why do you instantly think about cammy when I talk about cake?
I was referring to the various types of cake you can buy in World Tour mode or are featured in Artwork. There is one with an especially well baked apple pie somewhere.

And uncanny characters? I havent heard that opinion anywhere yet.
What are you on about?

[Patrick Wayne]

Originally posted by Tobithecomic:

Originally posted by AlmightyDemon:

Lmao.
What polish? Even the graphics are subpar.
Worst matchmaking out there.
It has region block matchmaking + random errors up to this day.

What content? Cheap basic wt mode where most of what you do is fight braindead copy pasted mobs with cardboard boxes on their heads?

Outside of WT there's barely any content. Worst arcade out there. They just added few slideshows and called it a day.

And no one is touching extreme battle.

The content is so lazy that it doesn't even have unique character interactions like any other new fighting game has.
All characters say the same cringe line to everyone.
They feel like robots.

What thought was put into the combat system? All they did is adding few new mechanics and replacing few old ones. This is the bare minimum any fighting game franchise does.
There's nothing unique or special about any sf6 mechanic.

No compromising? That's why we have tons of complaints about modern?

What "cake"? Even cammy has mediocre ass and she's the fanservice ass character.

Not to mention that her ugly face and flat chest (she had big chest before) make her unappealing.

Most characters are ugly with uncanny valley faces.

Graphics are great I really dont know what your problem appears to be.
Are you perhaps unable to play with higher fidelity graphics? I recommend installing the newest drivers for yoru graphics card and turning on the Shader Warumup in the options, it helps a ton on older machines.

Matchmaking is working fine here where I live tho it does appear that a lot fo people have problems similiar to what you describe, so the devs have to look at that.
But I think you misunderstood me here, I wasnt talking about the matchmaking, I was talking about the netcode, y'know the gameplay aspect of it. Basically almost Lag Free play even with players on another side of the world.

Content isn't just the World Tour mode, there are also extreme battles, which people do touch believe it or not, well made character guides, a ton of artwork, old arcade games you can play for free and of course the World Tour mode.

Now I dont know who stepped on your tail to be so hateful towards it just, because it doesn't really appeal to you specifically, but I know a bunch of people who really enjoyed the adddition of it and had lots of fun with it, not to mention that it seems that the dlc characters get added to World Tour for free, so you can experiment with their moves without having to buy them.

Every character has a unique victory quote against every other character, I dont know where you get the idea from that unique interactions are a must but if you do think so, in the arcade mode during the final battle there are unique character interactions between the 2 fighters. Also I dont really get why you call it the worst arcade mode, there are definitely more bare bones arcade modes out there.

The combat system goes beyond just the drive system, it's a combination of how the frame data is different from how it usually was and how that interacts with the drive system.

The complains about modern controls are literally wrong and debunkable by just playing modern yourself. Just because it has auto combos doesn't mean those auto combos are any good.
Also you deal less damage, which equals to you having to win around 2-3 more interactions to get the KO compared to the classic version fo the character.

Also why do you instantly think about cammy when I talk about cake?
I was referring to the various types of cake you can buy in World Tour mode or are featured in Artwork. There is one with an especially well baked apple pie somewhere.

And uncanny characters? I havent heard that opinion anywhere yet.
What are you on about?

I have high end pc and play this game in 4k all max. The graphics are atrocious. It looks like a random ps4 game from 2016. Like ps3 game at times too (especially in WT and Battle Hub).

Anti-aliasing barely present, just look at models up close if you have bad vision.

Stages look like cheap wallpapers. They are abysmal. By far the worst stages than any other fighting game had for a while.

RE engine does a terrible job with this game and we get uncanny valley faces. Like with cammy, kimberly, manon, marisa and etc.

Bro, I mean proper character interactions. Not some cheap text you see after the fight. Actual voiced conversations like you see in Tekken 8, MK1, MK11, Injustice, FighterZ and etc.

https://youtu.be/MNQ4s0m2gtI

https://youtu.be/u4xOPvfopak

https://youtu.be/3kk5aMUluW0

https://youtu.be/_gOcRLebIAc

FighterZ characters alone have more life in them than the entirety of SF6.

Sf6 characters SAY the same exact line to every character.

Frame data interacting with a new mechanic is something very basic.

Nah, it's not anywhere close to being lag free. Wifi players give you lag, anything above 200 ping gives you lag and etc.

Netcode is nothing special. Especially with a terrible matchmaking system.

So artwork is a content now? It's something basic any fighting game has.

Who even plays this game for artwork as a "content"?
You pay 70$ to see some art ingame?

Also who even plays the old arcade games inside SF6? It's just a silly gimmick you try out and move on.
If I wanted to play these old games I would do it outside of SF6.

I never heard of anyone playing extreme battle. It's the most boring aspect of the game.

You clearly don't even know anything about modern and why it is complained about.
Instant supers, instant dp, high damaging auto-combos with 0% drop (characters have 50% lvl 3 auto-combos), far easier optimal combos with similar damage to classic and you can even go around the damage nerf with classic inputs.

[Choco]

Street 6 will remain
The best
Fighting game around
Until City of the Wolves comes out

[Sweeper]

Sf6 is not a traditional fighting game. And it also does not belong tonwhat we call the fgc. It has altered the game a tid too much.

Id say sf1234 and even 5 are traditional plus their spin offs. Even tatsunoki brcause that game was made for wii controls so i respect it. I even respect snk millenium on the neogeo pocket.
Sf6 has pretty much killed its core fans

Its a whole different target group. Ive spoken on fightcade and ggpo. And those guys play all games even bb and gg and 3d fighters. And they basically refunded just like me. I should take their example cause they just simply dissed it and moved on

[BaronCappuccino]

SF6 is my favorite fighter by quite a margin, followed by Guilty Gear Strive. Samurai Shodown and KoFXV in that order. Nothing else is really worth listing. If it counts, Capcom Fighting Collection deserves a mention for Vampire Savior, but whether a compilation rerelease can make a twenty-six year old title fair for a thread about the last ten years is up to the reader.

[smokeymcpot]

Originally posted by .:

sf1

lol

[Sweeper]

Originally posted by mYNDe1337:

Originally posted by Samvega:

I'm sorry Cammy isn't attractive enough for you. Maybe an NSFW artist could do a commission for you using the face and proportions you like? It's probably easier than meeting real people who you find attractive.

You like a lot of games more than SF6. Play them. This forum doesn't require your essays about how disappointed you are in the game.

Ok crapcom shill

i usually hate these comments but now it really suites.

[Tobithecomic]

Originally posted by AlmightyDemon:

Originally posted by Tobithecomic:

Graphics are great I really dont know what your problem appears to be.
Are you perhaps unable to play with higher fidelity graphics? I recommend installing the newest drivers for yoru graphics card and turning on the Shader Warumup in the options, it helps a ton on older machines.

Matchmaking is working fine here where I live tho it does appear that a lot fo people have problems similiar to what you describe, so the devs have to look at that.
But I think you misunderstood me here, I wasnt talking about the matchmaking, I was talking about the netcode, y'know the gameplay aspect of it. Basically almost Lag Free play even with players on another side of the world.

Content isn't just the World Tour mode, there are also extreme battles, which people do touch believe it or not, well made character guides, a ton of artwork, old arcade games you can play for free and of course the World Tour mode.

Now I dont know who stepped on your tail to be so hateful towards it just, because it doesn't really appeal to you specifically, but I know a bunch of people who really enjoyed the adddition of it and had lots of fun with it, not to mention that it seems that the dlc characters get added to World Tour for free, so you can experiment with their moves without having to buy them.

Every character has a unique victory quote against every other character, I dont know where you get the idea from that unique interactions are a must but if you do think so, in the arcade mode during the final battle there are unique character interactions between the 2 fighters. Also I dont really get why you call it the worst arcade mode, there are definitely more bare bones arcade modes out there.

The combat system goes beyond just the drive system, it's a combination of how the frame data is different from how it usually was and how that interacts with the drive system.

The complains about modern controls are literally wrong and debunkable by just playing modern yourself. Just because it has auto combos doesn't mean those auto combos are any good.
Also you deal less damage, which equals to you having to win around 2-3 more interactions to get the KO compared to the classic version fo the character.

Also why do you instantly think about cammy when I talk about cake?
I was referring to the various types of cake you can buy in World Tour mode or are featured in Artwork. There is one with an especially well baked apple pie somewhere.

And uncanny characters? I havent heard that opinion anywhere yet.
What are you on about?

I have high end pc and play this game in 4k all max. The graphics are atrocious. It looks like a random ps4 game from 2016. Like ps3 game at times too (especially in WT and Battle Hub).

Anti-aliasing barely present, just look at models up close if you have bad vision.

Stages look like cheap wallpapers. They are abysmal. By far the worst stages than any other fighting game had for a while.

RE engine does a terrible job with this game and we get uncanny valley faces. Like with cammy, kimberly, manon, marisa and etc.

Bro, I mean proper character interactions. Not some cheap text you see after the fight. Actual voiced conversations like you see in Tekken 8, MK1, MK11, Injustice, FighterZ and etc.

https://youtu.be/MNQ4s0m2gtI

https://youtu.be/u4xOPvfopak

https://youtu.be/3kk5aMUluW0

https://youtu.be/_gOcRLebIAc

FighterZ characters alone have more life in them than the entirety of SF6.

Sf6 characters SAY the same exact line to every character.

Frame data interacting with a new mechanic is something very basic.

Nah, it's not anywhere close to being lag free. Wifi players give you lag, anything above 200 ping gives you lag and etc.

Netcode is nothing special. Especially with a terrible matchmaking system.

So artwork is a content now? It's something basic any fighting game has.

Who even plays this game for artwork as a "content"?
You pay 70$ to see some art ingame?

Also who even plays the old arcade games inside SF6? It's just a silly gimmick you try out and move on.
If I wanted to play these old games I would do it outside of SF6.

I never heard of anyone playing extreme battle. It's the most boring aspect of the game.

You clearly don't even know anything about modern and why it is complained about.
Instant supers, instant dp, high damaging auto-combos with 0% drop (characters have 50% lvl 3 auto-combos), far easier optimal combos with similar damage to classic and you can even go around the damage nerf with classic inputs.

You just seem to subjectively dislike the game, which is completely fine.
If you dont like it, you don't like it.

But I do like it and I also played a lot of different fighting games

So let's just agree to disagree, no need to have a huge useless argument about it, that will just end in us disagreeing anyway.

[melonLord]

Alright so now that he's shown that he's not actually looking to see other opinions but more to validate his own and argue with anyone who disagrees, we done here?