Need Help with defense and defensive moves (also looking for newbie players to spar, chill like)

[Creus]

Hi, I'm no new to fighting games or street fighter (2d fighter for that matter), but i didnt play sfv cuz for me it didnt look good, SF6 came in with everything and it looks pretty f dope.

I mostly play tekken and there you don't really press anything to defend any linked moves that are not a combo will not land, so im kinda used to that.

I noticed if you don't press back anything will hit you, although im pressing back and sometimes i feel like any okizeme that my opponent uses lands

So i do need help with wake up defense.

also is there any difference with crouched defense and standing defense and is there anything like high mid low like in tekken? i thought you crouch to defend against low moves but i've seen like defending standing will block low attacks. that's what i feel like

Anyone who got their defense basics down care to teach me?

thank you

[Holografix]

In Street Fighter, you hold back to defend high or medium attacks, and you hold down+back (crouch) to block low attacks.

Holding back (standing block) will block jumping attacks, but will leave you defenseless against low attacks like crouching attacks or kick sweeps.

Conversely, holding down+back (crouching block) will block low attacks, but will leave you defenseless against jumping attacks and overhead moves that specifically target crouch blocking opponents.

Note that standing block (holding back) will not defend against throws. Only pressing your throw command or jumping will avoid throws.

Wake up defense and wake up attacking is part of the strategy of Street Fighter games. Each character has specific set-ups and okizeme pressure so you have to go on a character by character basis.

tldr;
- If you want to block jumping attacks, standing high attacks, standing medium attacks, or overhead attacks you hold BACK.
- if you want to block low attacks you hold DOWN+BACK.
- if you want to defend against throws, you either have press your throw command at the same time, or jump.

[Creus]

thank you for taking the time to type that, i aprreciate it, im def read all of it, thank you

so waking up crouch defense againt an oki is the best bet, unless they jump of course, im mostly concerned about when my opponent starts attacking while on the ground and it seems to land despite me holding back

[Shilly Clive]

Originally posted by Creus:

also is there any difference with crouched defense and standing defense

Just didn't bother to do any of the tutorial, huh?

[Creus]

Originally posted by Shilly Clive:

Originally posted by Creus:

also is there any difference with crouched defense and standing defense

Just didn't bother to do any of the tutorial, huh?

A tutorial is not an actual match and the npc is not going to throw at you a highlevel okizeme, jackass

I did the tutorial and it's not working for me when i get okizeme'd

[Spooky7.62]

crouching block is the better of the two blocks, you only need to stand for overhead/jump ins

[Octonaut]

Originally posted by Shilly Clive:

Originally posted by Creus:

also is there any difference with crouched defense and standing defense

Just didn't bother to do any of the tutorial, huh?

Don't be a toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone trying to learn please, just because your a bronze scrub doesn't mean you have to bring someone down to your level.

Originally posted by Creus:

thank you for taking the time to type that, i aprreciate it, im def read all of it, thank you

so waking up crouch defense againt an oki is the best bet, unless they jump of course, im mostly concerned about when my opponent starts attacking while on the ground and it seems to land despite me holding back

Normally just holding back is your best option it will walk you out of throws and block most attacks, you will be susceptible to low attacks but it's your general best option.

As for defensive option, who are you play? We may be able to help here

[Creus]

Originally posted by Octonaut:

Originally posted by Shilly Clive:

Just didn't bother to do any of the tutorial, huh?

Don't be a toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone trying to learn please, just because your a bronze scrub doesn't mean you have to bring someone down to your level.

Originally posted by Creus:

thank you for taking the time to type that, i aprreciate it, im def read all of it, thank you

so waking up crouch defense againt an oki is the best bet, unless they jump of course, im mostly concerned about when my opponent starts attacking while on the ground and it seems to land despite me holding back

Normally just holding back is your best option it will walk you out of throws and block most attacks, you will be susceptible to low attacks but it's your general best option.

As for defensive option, who are you play? We may be able to help here

I am mostly playing zangief, and learning ryu and jamie as i think they're rounded characters

[Octonaut]

Originally posted by Creus:

Originally posted by Octonaut:

Don't be a toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to someone trying to learn please, just because your a bronze scrub doesn't mean you have to bring someone down to your level.




Normally just holding back is your best option it will walk you out of throws and block most attacks, you will be susceptible to low attacks but it's your general best option.

As for defensive option, who are you play? We may be able to help here

I am mostly playing zangief, and learning ryu and jamie as i think they're rounded characters

ryu is a great place to start, playing tekken I am going to assume you know spacing.

but with ryu when at mid range c.mk hadoken is you best friend then just use c.hp when they jump, this will see you through a lot until you get more comfortable. learn these fundamentals before combos, you'll easily get to gold with it. also, and I cannot stress this enough, nothings great than doing nothing. holding down back you'll make them do ALL the work, just remember, if they're on the ground near you, c.mk, when they jump c.hp

[Yann]

Something many people don't use for defense:
When you're knocked down, as you land on the ground, hit 2 attack buttons simultaneously.
your character will roll back on wake up giving you a bit of breathing room to mess up meaty setups.

[Octonaut]

Originally posted by Yann:

Something many people don't use for defense:
When you're knocked down, as you land on the ground, hit 2 attack buttons simultaneously.
your character will roll back on wake up giving you a bit of breathing room to mess up meaty setups.

Also something the game doesn't mention is pressing down as you hit the floor lets you quick stand if you want to stay in the fray

[Yann]

Originally posted by Octonaut:

Originally posted by Yann:

Something many people don't use for defense:
When you're knocked down, as you land on the ground, hit 2 attack buttons simultaneously.
your character will roll back on wake up giving you a bit of breathing room to mess up meaty setups.

Also something the game doesn't mention is pressing down as you hit the floor lets you quick stand if you want to stay in the fray

oh nice, i didn't know that!

[Octonaut]

Originally posted by Yann:

Originally posted by Octonaut:

Also something the game doesn't mention is pressing down as you hit the floor lets you quick stand if you want to stay in the fray

oh nice, i didn't know that!

kind of wish it was double kicks for quick stand and double punch for roll

[Yann]

Originally posted by Octonaut:

Originally posted by Yann:

oh nice, i didn't know that!

kind of wish it was double kicks for quick stand and double punch for roll

yes, its a bit inconsistent.

[Creus]

thank you both for you inputs, it's great help! definitely doing my training on that, the crouch defense to avoid ground oki seemed what i was missing, i wasnt fully sure of how high mid low worked here

[C1REX]

I will try to make it simple to a fellow Tekken player.

You generally block low in this game. It blocks 95% of attacks except overheads. Overheads are all jumping attacks and usually a single other move that has to be blocked while standing. So opposite to Tekken when yo generally block while standing.