Is Platinum a "big deal"?

[Ron]

I got platinum weigh Ken a couple of nights ago, after getting like a 12 Winning Streak.
But I noticed that I made another post, where I "claimed" I had a Platinum 2 Ryu, and some people questioned it. I was confused, because to me, Platinum is not something you lie about, as if you're bragging from your "high rank".
Right?

Or is reaching a Platinum harder than I think it is?

[Samvega]

Having fun is the big deal. No matter what rank you are at, if you having fun, you are winning the game.

[Castyles]

If you climbed straight from a low rank, it is a big deal. Especially if you actually managed to get out of Plat 1 for data out there says Plat 1 is the final destination for the majority of the players.

If you got placed on Plat due to spamming crap on the first week, on placement matches, or something and never even managed to leave Plat 1 and just spend your time bullying others on the Hub, then no.

Imo, though, anything above Gold 2 is a big deal.

[Richer]

Originally posted by Castyles:

If you climbed straight from a low rank, it is a big deal. Especially if you actually managed to get out of Plat 1 for data out there says Plat 1 is the final destination for the majority of the players.

If you got placed on Plat due to spamming crap on the first week, on placement matches, or something and never even managed to leave Plat 1 and just spend your time bullying others on the Hub, then no.

Imo, though, anything above Gold 2 is a big deal.

*Smiles in Gold 3 Chun-Li*

[kiteless 凧無し]

I've got 3 characters to masters now, I'm not that good

if you grind you will progress up the ranks, you only need to maintain a 40% win percentage to go up in points, it's generous and its designed that way for a reason because capcom knows people who get hard stuck are more likely to give up

[ysyz]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I've got 3 characters to masters now, I'm not that good

if you grind you will progress up the ranks, you only need to maintain a 40% win percentage to go up in points, it's generous and its designed that way for a reason because capcom knows people who get hard stuck are more likely to give up

You're right. The game doesn't punish negative wr% in the way people might expect, it punishes you by multiplying the amount of games you need to play:

Plat 1 13,000LP
Master 25,000 LP

12k LP on 100% winrate is 240 wins
On a 50% winrate that's 1200 wins, 1200 losses (60k-48k)
45% winrate is 10x that much, at 10,800 wins and 13,200 losses (540k-528k)

This is all assuming 50/40LP win/loss, there's going to be many scenarios where someone beats a higher rank player that reduces the number a bit.

[NeuralSimulation]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I've got 3 characters to masters now, I'm not that good

if you grind you will progress up the ranks, you only need to maintain a 40% win percentage to go up in points, it's generous and its designed that way for a reason because capcom knows people who get hard stuck are more likely to give up

I don't think the math quite works on that.

Assume 50 points for a win, 40 for a loss (yes I know sometimes it's more, but in platinum+, it's only more if you're fighting someone above your weight class):

40% would mean that you could win 4 matches and lose 6 and still gain points.

So:
50 x 4 = 200 points for winning
60 x 4 = -240 points for losing.

Doesn't work. We'd lose points at that rate.

Let's try 45% instead. This would mean you could win 45/100 matches, or 9/20

So assuming 9 wins and 11 losses out of 20 matches we get:

50 * 9 = 450 for winning 9 matches
40 * 11 = -440 for losing 11 matches

So it works. 45% is the number you need to hit to progress.

[mrrogers]

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I've got 3 characters to masters now, I'm not that good

if you grind you will progress up the ranks, you only need to maintain a 40% win percentage to go up in points, it's generous and its designed that way for a reason because capcom knows people who get hard stuck are more likely to give up

You are absolutely good relative to most players if you got to master on any character or 3. Daigo probably says he isnt very good at fighting games if you asked him.... He is just being humble

[al64inthedark]

Diamonds and Master are really above Plats. It's another world. And they never jump. I hate them for that.

[Metal Gear Banana]

Originally posted by al64inthedark:

And they never jump.

The #1 Ryu in NA says hi

[kiteless 凧無し]

Originally posted by mrrogers:

Originally posted by kiteless 凧無し:

I've got 3 characters to masters now, I'm not that good

if you grind you will progress up the ranks, you only need to maintain a 40% win percentage to go up in points, it's generous and its designed that way for a reason because capcom knows people who get hard stuck are more likely to give up

You are absolutely good relative to most players if you got to master on any character or 3. Daigo probably says he isnt very good at fighting games if you asked him.... He is just being humble

I’m older than daigo and I’ve played him in person at sf4, a long time ago, back in 2008-9 when I used to frequent Japanese arcades, he used to hang around the sega shinjuku west arcade, before streaming culture became a thing

I’m not pro level, not even close, I just grew up with fighters in the arcades back in the 90s when they were mainstream, unlike now

[THE IMPALER]

Originally posted by Peddie:

Sure, but honestly, the concept of being "good" is very subjective. And you also have people who still play who are still kicking around in Rookie or New Challenger bracket, not too long ago I went against someone whose entire game plan revolved around burning out with EX moves ASAP and then uh, turtling until they had their drive meter back, repeat until round end (not in their favour), I got curious and went to check and they somehow had more hours in the game than me but were also stuck in Rookie, so you get all sorts in this weird and wonderful game.

honestly that sounds like someone whod be incredibly frustrating to play against.

[Jirai]

As a long time SF player I personally think Platin rank is extremly easy to get in SF6. Game starts at Master rank and my skill ends right now around 1700 MR. In SF5 I never reached UGM because the grind was really hard compared to SF6.

[lilkda]

Originally posted by bean:

Originally posted by RonKorakas:

I got platinum weigh Ken a couple of nights ago, after getting like a 12 Winning Streak.
But I noticed that I made another post, where I "claimed" I had a Platinum 2 Ryu, and some people questioned it. I was confused, because to me, Platinum is not something you lie about, as if you're bragging from your "high rank".
Right?

Or is reaching a Platinum harder than I think it is?

if you want an honest answer? it was harder to reach sf5 gold for the first time than reaching masters on sf6

So true in SF5 I got to Platinum with Nash and I was a grind and never got Diamond. In SF6 I got to Master with Kimberly and I'm not even that good lol.

[Michael Gordan 23 遊ぼうか]

The SF5 ranking system was harder I got Platinum on a few Characters

[Metal Gear Banana]

I got to Platinum 2 with Modern Zangief in less than a day starting from Silver 1, without knowing any combos. This is my first fighting game. I am most definitely not a good Zangief lol