perfect parry discussion

[JoeMaschinengewehr]

what do you guys think about perfect parry? i think its cool thats it is in the game but i really wish that there wasn't such a steep damage cut when you perform a combo afterwards. i feel like its only in the game so you can charge drive gauge. to me it seems like there is no reason to try for that slim 2 frame perfect parry when you can just DI and get a much higher damage combo, and even if you DI directly after a perfect parry, the terrible scaling still applies.

i'd like to see it get buffed, either more frames allowed or better damage scaling.

[Sid]

there's a lot more value in it than just damage.
it ends your opponent's turn at little to no risk, you can hold block and try for it.
use it to corner carry, sideswap, sweep for oki or safely install.

anytime you do hit it, your position vastly improves compared to getting punched in block.
"just DI" will net you damage, at a massive risk to both your own hp pool, and position.

[vortex]

I think it's BS that you can perfect parry Blanka's roll and he still gets away scott free.

[JoeMaschinengewehr]

Originally posted by Sid:

there's a lot more value in it than just damage.
it ends your opponent's turn at little to no risk, you can hold block and try for it.
use it to corner carry, sideswap, sweep for oki or safely install.

anytime you do hit it, your position vastly improves compared to getting punched in block.
"just DI" will net you damage, at a massive risk to both your own hp pool, and position.

i wasnt even thinking about how it helps positioning, cool stuff to think about.

signed, a silver player

[Danny DeVito with a Gun]

The damage cut is annoying but I think is necessary. Players are gonna get better at it and land it more consistently. The oki and side-switch are enough of a reward and can still change the tide of a match

[JoeMaschinengewehr]

Originally posted by Danny DeVito with a Gun:

The damage cut is annoying but I think is necessary. Players are gonna get better at it and land it more consistently. The oki and side-switch are enough of a reward and can still change the tide of a match

how would you feel about keeping the damage scaling the same but maybe adding 2 - 4 frames to be able to land perfect parry, i think 3rd strike had like 10 or something

[76561198358127085]

its a good mechanic, unlike drive impact which is a broken mechanic

[Danny DeVito with a Gun]

Originally posted by joe m.:

Originally posted by Danny DeVito with a Gun:

The damage cut is annoying but I think is necessary. Players are gonna get better at it and land it more consistently. The oki and side-switch are enough of a reward and can still change the tide of a match

how would you feel about keeping the damage scaling the same but maybe adding 2 - 4 frames to be able to land perfect parry, i think 3rd strike had like 10 or something

I'm not sure. Frame-wise, I feel like they trying to match red parries instead since those have about the same window as perfect parries

[Ahriman]

if it had better damage scaling they would have to revamp it entirely or the game would be hot trash

[iRaged]

Originally posted by vortex:

I think it's BS that you can perfect parry Blanka's roll and he still gets away scott free.

You should just DP it. Say you parry and Blanka does short roll, you are still going to get punished for it so DP is the better option. If your character has no DP then Parry is your only option unless you want to hold back.

[Cam]

I wouldn't mind seeing the damage scaling reduced very slightly. Getting hit by a combo after perfect parry shouldn't have me feeling "Oh good, it's low damage." Feels silly, and a lot of oki routes get nerfed so hard they do less than a normal throw.

[Kiyaya]

Originally posted by vortex:

I think it's BS that you can perfect parry Blanka's roll and he still gets away scott free.

This is false. The trick is after perfect parrying you cancel into Drive Rush. Guaranteed punish from anyone in the cast.

[🔞T R E /トレイ🔞]

I dont think it should be changed at all. Up here in Diamond + it would be THE APOCALYPSE if that were the case. No one would consider the other 2 options if it wasn't scaled because it'd be stronger on that base alone. Using it as a turn steal is more the idea or a free card for mix up blocking. Alot of people are using it to catch meaties on wake up to steal turns, what we do is bait it and Punish throw it for a large sum of free damage.

[🔞T R E /トレイ🔞]

Originally posted by Kiyaya:

Originally posted by vortex:

I think it's BS that you can perfect parry Blanka's roll and he still gets away scott free.

This is false. The trick is after perfect parrying you cancel into Drive Rush. Guaranteed punish from anyone in the cast.

Great answer but thats asking alot of the casual player.

[Spooky7.62]

Originally posted by Sid:

there's a lot more value in it than just damage.
it ends your opponent's turn at little to no risk, you can hold block and try for it.
use it to corner carry, sideswap, sweep for oki or safely install.

anytime you do hit it, your position vastly improves compared to getting punched in block.
"just DI" will net you damage, at a massive risk to both your own hp pool, and position.

the more you know

[weirdkid5]

Originally posted by 🔞トレイ🔞:

Originally posted by Kiyaya:

This is false. The trick is after perfect parrying you cancel into Drive Rush. Guaranteed punish from anyone in the cast.

Great answer but thats asking alot of the casual player.

It shouldn't be hard to double tap forward after a perfect parry at all.